wingnut40 176 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I thought he was always pretty cool. A little intimidating and not the best defenseman, but I liked him. I remember a game where there was a big scuffle along the boards and he dropped the gloves and literally dove headfirst into the pile of players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Everyone on the wings is over paid! Not at all. Most of the contracts are quite reasonable. Rafalski and Filppula, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Didn't Markov score a goal against the Penguins to eliminate them from the playoffs, then salute Jagr as he skated away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Didn't Markov score a goal against the Penguins to eliminate them from the playoffs, then salute Jagr as he skated away? http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2009/12/marko...lutes-jagr.html VIDEO :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFlag85 33 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 And that video makes me miss Datsyuk more than Markov. Same... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2009/12/marko...lutes-jagr.html VIDEO :lol: Yeah that's definitely it. I guess he didn't score the goal, but still: Markov is a crazy guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 "I told them, he no win. They no win." Danny Markov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 9, 2010 markov apparently scored the flyers 10,000th goal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Haha reading some of the comments in that link really demonstrate what Markov was all about: "This is the same guy who once attacked a mascot, shot a puck at a referee, and trash-talked the Senators bench after getting hit in the face with a slapshot." "Markov = Epic Win! I can't remember any other Leafs D-men that always tried to block shots teeth-first." "I remember one time when Dino Cicarelli was in his usual spot in front of the crease and Markov slewfooted him, pushed him in the face and then sat on him with his knee across Cicarelli's neck. He got a penalty, but got up arguing with the ref as if he did absolutely nothing wrong." "I remember reading an article about him during a playoff series with the Flyers. The reporter asked him what he was thinking about when the likes of Lindros and LeClaire were barreling down on him. Markov, beautifully replied, "I'm thinking f*** you and f*** you too!" Someone should base a character off this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Haha reading some of the comments in that link really demonstrate what Markov was all about: "This is the same guy who once attacked a mascot, shot a puck at a referee, and trash-talked the Senators bench after getting hit in the face with a slapshot." "Markov = Epic Win! I can't remember any other Leafs D-men that always tried to block shots teeth-first." "I remember one time when Dino Cicarelli was in his usual spot in front of the crease and Markov slewfooted him, pushed him in the face and then sat on him with his knee across Cicarelli's neck. He got a penalty, but got up arguing with the ref as if he did absolutely nothing wrong." "I remember reading an article about him during a playoff series with the Flyers. The reporter asked him what he was thinking about when the likes of Lindros and LeClaire were barreling down on him. Markov, beautifully replied, "I'm thinking f*** you and f*** you too!" Someone should base a character off this guy. can we put all our defensemen on waivers and pay this guy whatever he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Markov is lazy and he sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 9, 2010 "I remember reading an article about him during a playoff series with the Flyers. The reporter asked him what he was thinking about when the likes of Lindros and LeClaire were barreling down on him. Markov, beautifully replied, "I'm thinking f*** you and f*** you too!" Someone should base a character off this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 After reading about all the crazy stuff he did I want him even more on the team. Imagine him giving advise to Ericsson to be a little nuts like him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFlag85 33 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) "I remember reading an article about him during a playoff series with the Flyers. The reporter asked him what he was thinking about when the likes of Lindros and LeClaire were barreling down on him. Markov, beautifully replied, "I'm thinking f*** you and f*** you too!" I lol'd. He was like if you took the insanity of Peter Stormare playing that Cosmonaut in Armageddon, and put him in the body of Ivan Drago. Edited February 9, 2010 by RedFlag85 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I saw this in the comments: I also ran into him once on the street, outside of Rotate This! on Queen Street. He was smoking a cigarette and I went up to him and thanked him for doing such a great job in the playffs and mentioned that I had got 55 Markov on my jersey. He replied with "Ha Ha Ha! Nobody like Markov on jersey! No girls like that!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 "I remember reading an article about him during a playoff series with the Flyers. The reporter asked him what he was thinking about when the likes of Lindros and LeClaire were barreling down on him. Markov, beautifully replied, "I'm thinking f*** you and f*** you too!" Someone should base a character off this guy. As if I didnt miss him enough already He was ******* nuts, and it was great. Him flipping out in OT vs St Louis and beating up Petr Cajanek and flirting with a fan in Anaheim where another Ducks fan came in and pissed Markov off so he banged the glass will be my lasting memories of him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 All you people who relentlessly rag on Rafalski as being the worst hockey player ever are retarded. Nothing else can be said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 All you people who relentlessly rag on Rafalski as being the worst hockey player ever are retarded. Nothing else can be said. Worst Ever? Not even close. Horrible now, but not worst ever. It's interesting that you choose "retarded." Now, I'm not really that PC, but Lewis Black made a funny observation about that last night-- maybe it's the new "n" word. As in, it can only be used by people of that group. As a Rafalski apologist, feel free to use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Markov always struck me as the type of guy who would kill the President if you gave him enough money. And he would do it completely stoic. :rotflmao: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Exactly. Put Lebda with Lidstrom during the prime years and we'd be talking about how Lebda's 50 point seasons were awesome, but we wish he'd be better defensively. Brian Rafalski=Brett Lebda. At least Lebda makes absolutely nothing. I'd keep Lebda over Rafalski, and I HATE Brett Lebda as a hockey player. Seriously? What the f*** are you watching? Sure, Rafalski's cap hit is high, but look at every defenseman in the league's salary with his pedigree. Its what you pay for a defenseman of his caliber. The only thing him and Lebda have in common is size, and Rafi doesn't let it bring down his game. He's smart with the puck, has a great shot, and great outlet pass. Besides, if he complements Lids the way he does, that's half worth it right there. Rafalski is the second best defensman on the team. No cup in 08 and no finals last year without the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Seriously? What the f*** are you watching? Sure, Rafalski's cap hit is high, but look at every defenseman in the league's salary with his pedigree. Its what you pay for a defenseman of his caliber. The only thing him and Lebda have in common is size, and Rafi doesn't let it bring down his game. He's smart with the puck, has a great shot, and great outlet pass. Besides, if he complements Lids the way he does, that's half worth it right there. Rafalski is the second best defensman on the team. No cup in 08 and no finals last year without the guy. Definitely agree. There are 10 defensman that are within his salary range (5.5M to 6.5M), 4 who get paid less than him but >/= 5.5M, and 5 that get paid more than him but </= 6.5M. He has the 5th most points in that group, and three of the four defensman with more points than him have a higher salary. He's also within three points of three of the four dman that do have more points than him. He has the second highest +/- to only Pronger, and nobody else is even close to where he is. He also takes the least amount of penalty minutes out of everyone in that group. It doesn't hurt to keep in mind that he's keeping up with his salary class on an underperforming Wings team. Given the hard stats, Rafalski could probably be valued a bit higher than he's getting paid now. Granted, as Eva will tell you, there's more to hockey than stats, but even watching him on the ice for the most part I don't see anything less than what Holland is paying him for. Edited February 10, 2010 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 10, 2010 haha, you talks about Rafalskis in Markov a uhhhh... thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 haha, you talks about Rafalskis in Markov a uhhhh... thread He even looks insane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Thats debatable as we will never know if that is true or not. It's virtually certain, as Markov had no offensive upside whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Wish we could have had Kasparitis and Markov paired together. That would have been the equivalent of the Russian mafia on ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
