Another dirty hit

[Rivalred 630]

Seabrook has an "upper body injury"- lets see how long this one lasts.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521817

[edicius 3,269]

I don't blame anybody but the NHL for these hits. If they would just step up and throw some actual discipline towards these players, hits like these wouldn't happen.

That's exactly the way I see it. Because the league didn't suspend Cooke - because, according to them, head shots are well within the rules, despite being attempts to injure - it's open season for those players who dish them out. They can execute them with impunity and then dispute any suspensions with the full backing of the NHLPA because Cooke wasn't suspended.

[Rivalred 630]

That's exactly the way I see it. Because the league didn't suspend Cooke - because, according to them, head shots are well within the rules, despite being attempts to injure - it's open season for those players who dish them out. They can execute them with impunity and then dispute any suspensions with the full backing of the NHLPA because Cooke wasn't suspended.

Any chance that the league "can" overturn that ruling? Not saying that they would...

[Original-Six 254]

Seabrook has an "upper body injury"- lets see how long this one lasts.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521817

lol "upper body"...aka he got knocked the f*** out.

[seeinred 1,488]

Leaving your feet to make a high hit on a guy 10ft away from the puck looked like a good hit to you?

After a dirty hit on someone on your team, yeah. Thats a good hit to me. And I'm one of the few that has no problem with intending to injure someone on a clean hit. And I don't mean headshots. But if you can light a guy up and hurt him, you should do it. Now I'm not saying that Wiz's hit was clean. But I like it. He said "You try to hurt one of my teammates, I'm gonna hurt you right back."

[Original-Six 254]

I dont ever remember so many dirty and dangerous hits in one year. Is it just me or is it getting alot worse? I guess thats why they are making the new rule though.

the only difference now is that these hits are becoming unacceptable. Most of Scott Stevens hits were like these and every one loved them back in the 90s. IMO hockey was better back then when players could take a hit and just keep playing. Now its a pissing contest even if its a clean hit.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I don't blame anybody but the NHL for these hits. If they would just step up and throw some actual discipline towards these players, hits like these wouldn't happen.

Bingo. I blame Colin Campbell for continuing to let this bulls*** happen. It's not like these head shots haven't been happening for years-- they just weren't brave enough to address the issue before the media chatter reached critical mass.

[Carman 387]

Bingo. I blame Colin Campbell for continuing to let this bulls*** happen. It's not like these head shots haven't been happening for years-- they just weren't brave enough to address the issue before the media chatter reached critical mass.

Because Campbell is in charge of writing the rules.

Campbell is just a judge. He can only work within the rules he is given.

Blame the players association, board of governers, GM's, hell everyone involved in the NHL if you are going to throw Campbell under the bus as well. The whole league is ran like s***.

[RedWingAbner 13]

the only difference now is that these hits are becoming unacceptable. Most of Scott Stevens hits were like these and every one loved them back in the 90s. IMO hockey was better back then when players could take a hit and just keep playing. Now its a pissing contest even if its a clean hit.

There are more differences that just the era. The players are bigger + faster, and these hits are doing more damage. Yes, you can make an argument that it was always part of hockey. However, knowing what we know now about concussions, it is time to make some changes to protect the players from long-term injury.

The NFL+College Football+High School Football is talking about eliminating the 3-point stance. Why? Concussions and head-on-head collisions. Yes, it's fun to watch a guy get completely smeared. It's also very dangerous, and I'd venture a bet that watching Gladiatorial combat would be appealing too. It doesn't mean times don't change, and it doesn't take away from the masculinity of hockey. It just shows that our society realizes that we can't allow someone to have their head smashed for our entertainment.

[Tommy_Like_Wingy 25]

Boy, I must be getting old...

That hit - in my opinion, anyway - was a thing of beauty. Someone hits your skill player (as much as I hate to say skill whilst talking about Perry /vomit ) and your goon goes and gets a piece of him. There is NOTHING illegal about this hit, from what I can see... he was just a defenseman pinching and seeing an opportunity to lay out a massive hit. I remember the late 90's when the Wings would do this all the time if someone screwed with Yzerman/Fedorov/Lidstrom/etc. (D-Mac, Lapointe, Konstantinov, Shanny...)

Lets please not turn into a bunch of fuddy-duddys about hitting all the sudden. First this ridiculous Ovetchkin suspension and now I feel like people are going to try to turn this into the same thing. People get hurt in hockey. It happens. Head shots can be avoided - I get that... but I'm afraid people are going to start tacking suspensions on to penalties if the opposing player gets injured. What's next? Are we gonna install airbags into the boards?

Then what's the point of playing at all? Why not just bring all your AHL scrubs up who would kill for a chance to play in the NHL and then make them do exactly that, kill for it. Send them out there to take runs at every one of the opposing team's star players. Injure them all and take them out of the playoffs. That way your team has a better shot in the post season. Your AHL guys get suspensions leaving your starters to play against injury ridden teams. Brilliant.

[Inultus 12]

I didn't read all 4 pages, but did anyone notice that Seabrook's hit was dirty also? Granted, it wasn't AS dirty, but still...

I'm not going to say he got what was coming to him, but I'm not too suprised at the retribution.

[FIBS 35]

Seabrook's hit was not dirty or cheap at all. He went to hit a player behind his own net and that player started falling awkwardly and he continued to hit him. That's not dirty and that's not even close to the brutality of Wisniewski's hit.

[Jersey Wing 1,521]

Boy, I must be getting old...

That hit - in my opinion, anyway - was a thing of beauty. Someone hits your skill player (as much as I hate to say skill whilst talking about Perry /vomit ) and your goon goes and gets a piece of him. There is NOTHING illegal about this hit, from what I can see... he was just a defenseman pinching and seeing an opportunity to lay out a massive hit. I remember the late 90's when the Wings would do this all the time if someone screwed with Yzerman/Fedorov/Lidstrom/etc. (D-Mac, Lapointe, Konstantinov, Shanny...)

Lets please not turn into a bunch of fuddy-duddys about hitting all the sudden. First this ridiculous Ovetchkin suspension and now I feel like people are going to try to turn this into the same thing. People get hurt in hockey. It happens. Head shots can be avoided - I get that... but I'm afraid people are going to start tacking suspensions on to penalties if the opposing player gets injured. What's next? Are we gonna install airbags into the boards?

My problem with it is something you didn't address about old time hockey, the body armor these guys wear now and those giant kevlar elbow pads. Heads haven't gotten harder, jaws haven't gotten stronger but the equipment today not only absorbs punishment it doles it out.

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

Good description by Bob McKenzie at TSN :

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As soon as I saw it, it struck me as the Grand Slam of illegal hits.

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But, where was that original video shot; at a mall?

[GORM19 0]

stay tuned after the game to watch coach q get a serious fine for criticizing the (alleged) officiating...

EDIT: what asshat pulls the goalie when the other team has the puck?? q, thats who!

definitely a dirty hit, btw...dunno why wiz wasn't ejected from the game. 4 game suspension, since he's not named crosby or ovechkin.

Or anybody that wears a pittsburgh jersey...... Cough Cough COOKE

Seabrook's hit was not dirty or cheap at all. He went to hit a player behind his own net and that player started falling awkwardly and he continued to hit him. That's not dirty and that's not even close to the brutality of Wisniewski's hit.

Not a chicago fan at all but i agree with this statement fully

Go to you tube and watch the replay from the Anaheim feed these announcers are f***in morons, saying that the hit on perry was a head shot and not saying nothing about wizs hit except that seabrook was trying to sell the call what asses

Edited March 18, 2010 by GORM19

[deetroit dario 27]

Because Campbell is in charge of writing the rules.

Campbell is just a judge. He can only work within the rules he is given.

Blame the players association, board of governers, GM's, hell everyone involved in the NHL if you are going to throw Campbell under the bus as well. The whole league is ran like s***.

excellent point! and i'll do just that...blame the whole damn league.

seriously, is it any wonder the KHL claims to be a "legit" league "like the NHL"? they're both run by unscrupulous thugs who make abysmal business decisions...

lets just merge the two and call it UBHL (unscrupulous bastards hockey league).