cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 From Toronto Star : ...Ducks coach Randy Carlyle, seeing the world through his own narrow gaze, praised Wisniewski for having two fights. "He was probably the first star in our minds, as far as involvement in the game. It was probably the best game he's played as a Duck." ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 ...the fact of the matter is, we don't make up the rules as we go along. Unless your name is Sean Avery (Brodeur Rule) or Sidney Crosby (All-Star Game Rule) or Evgeni Malkin (Rescinding Automatic Suspension Rule)... What a shifty, deceptive son of a *****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Unless your name is Sean Avery (Brodeur Rule) or Sidney Crosby (All-Star Game Rule) or Evgeni Malkin (Rescinding Automatic Suspension Rule)... What a shifty, deceptive son of a *****. Except the Sean Avery rule was a clarification on existing rule not a new rule. And the Crosby/Malkin situations are clearly covered in the rulebook for those who are actually literate in the Engliah langauge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Original-Six 254 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Except the Sean Avery rule was a clarification on existing rule not a new rule. And the Crosby/Malkin situations are clearly covered in the rulebook for those who are actually literate in the Engliah langauge. Are these ones covered in the rulebook too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedArmy 4 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 this is pretty stupid 8 games for that??? damn this isn't ice hockey anymore, it is figure skating... Maybe a game or 2, but 8??????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 this is pretty stupid 8 games for that??? damn this isn't ice hockey anymore, it is figure skating... Maybe a game or 2, but 8??????? I think it would be different, still suspendable, but different if Seabrook was actually making a play with the puck....I think that's what may have pushed it over the edge....to 8 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Except the Sean Avery rule was a clarification on existing rule not a new rule. And the Crosby/Malkin situations are clearly covered in the rulebook for those who are actually literate in the Engliah langauge. The NHL did in fact change the interpretation of the rule to cover Avery's antics, so yes it could be considered "new". And everyone knows why the other two got away with what they did. (hint: check their sweaters) esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 The NHL did in fact change the interpretation of the rule to cover Avery's antics, so yes it could be considered "new". And everyone knows why the other two got away with what they did. (hint: check their sweaters) esteef Because Datsyuk and Lidstrom weren't given the same opportunity Crosby was for the All-Star game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Of course, if Wiz played on the Pens, this thread would be entitled, "No suspension for Wisniewski". I'm 100% certain of that. not entirely true. He'd have to playing for the 'guins, going into a pivotal game 3, he would have to be carrying his team, then he would initially be suspended, but then after the game, Bettman would rescind the penalty that was called during the game, destroying all video evidence, removing all vids from google, youtube, etc, etc, thus allowing him to say the instigator, er, oops, hit never happened and then he would allow him to play in game three, factoring in on all 3 goals scored, thus changing momentum of the series and single-handedly giving the Stanley Cup to the undeserving 'guins, yet again. Then telling him that if he and others don't want to shake hands, its ok, you don't have to, because you and your team are Gods... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Except the Sean Avery rule was a clarification on existing rule not a new rule. And the Crosby/Malkin situations are clearly covered in the rulebook for those who are actually literate in the Engliah langauge. So there is a rule in the book that pretty much says that if Bettman thinks the refs made the wrong call, he can overturn it and make his own ruling up? So for ALL those goal call off that were obviously in the net, or the ones that were called a goal, that were plainly upon video evidence that weren't in the net, he could have called them the opposite because he has rules that overturn his refs decisions? We aren't drinking the kool-aid today, sorry. Bettman changes the rules as he goes along in order to suit him and what he wants done. He knows as well as the entire world knows, that if Malkin didn't play in game three, Wings go up 3-0 in series and pretty much wrap up the series. Next you'll be telling us a man in a cave planned and executed 9/11! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Because Datsyuk and Lidstrom weren't given the same opportunity Crosby was for the All-Star game? If by "opportunity" you mean timely notification to be there thus avoiding suspension then No. Timely being the key word. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 If by "opportunity" you mean timely notification to be there thus avoiding suspension then No. Timely being the key word. esteef you cannot argue with Crosby slappies.... 1 Original-Six reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 you cannot argue with Crosby slappies.... I'm not a Crosby slappy. The suspension was ridiculous but all three had the same opportunity to go to Montreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 I'm fine with the suspension. If this is a precedent, then i am even more fine with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 interesting they both play for s***tsburgh the NHL is going to lose alot of fans letting pittsburgh away with this s*** and i may just become one of them Not to start a conspirary, but I belive the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 19, 2010 wow......8 games? What a joke. The Gonchar hit was twice as bad and he didnt get anything. NHL officiating really is a circus. Yeah Gonchar should have been suspended for that. Not only was it a headhunting shot but it was clearly in retribution for a clean hit and the hit made was not even close to legal (interference AND a hit to the head). That was something that should be covered by intent to injure. Love how Campbell explains that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted March 20, 2010 owned...This is what Bob Murray had to say in response to the Blackhawks Coach saying the Wiz hit was the worst in the history of the game. “I played in Chicago for a long time,” Murray said. “I live in the city of Chicago. It used to be a black-and-blue town. We didn’t have whiners. I strongly suggest Joel worries about his goaltending and stops trying to run the National Hockey League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 20, 2010 owned...This is what Bob Murray had to say in response to the Blackhawks Coach saying the Wiz hit was the worst in the history of the game. “I played in Chicago for a long time,” Murray said. “I live in the city of Chicago. It used to be a black-and-blue town. We didn’t have whiners. I strongly suggest Joel worries about his goaltending and stops trying to run the National Hockey League. Hahahahah, Bob Murray is 10x more loud and confrontational then Burke ever was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted March 20, 2010 Hahahahah, Bob Murray is 10x more loud and confrontational then Burke ever was Haha. That's pretty funny stuff by Murray. And obviously Quennville's comments were so melodramatic I just shake my head. As for Wiz. I'm totally thrilled with this suspension. I was happy to ready Bob McKenzie's column that pretty much echoed my sentiment about this clearly being intent to injure. The funniest being his comment that he hadn't seen a defenseman forecheck like that in a long time. In the end, Wiz came off the bench, beelined for the guy and absolutely tried to obliterate him. You can forget all about the puck, playing hockey or whatever, that was nothing more than 1 guy trying to hurt another guy. And bravo to Wiz. He was successful. Thankfully, he's getting what amounts to a 10% banishment from the season. Now all the league has to do is follow through with this and start doing things consistently. And yes, the league blew it on the Gonchar play. I don't think that says anything about Pittsburgh or Crosby or favortism. I think it's just more league inconsistency (and remember that happened before the Wiz hit, they're be more room to gripe if it happened after) and the fact that Clutterbuck didn't appear as injured and maybe b/c it all happened within the same shift. Whereas Wiz came off the bench (legally of course) with full intent. Sort of the difference between hurting somebody in a fit of rage or passion versus doing it premeditated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) Yeah Gonchar should have been suspended for that. Not only was it a headhunting shot but it was clearly in retribution for a clean hit and the hit made was not even close to legal (interference AND a hit to the head). That was something that should be covered by intent to injure. Love how Campbell explains that one. "He plays for the Penguins, and if I suspend anyone from the Omnipotent Team, I will lose my job, also if any one of the Gods gets a game misconduct or suspension, I must rescind the penalty, also to save my job." - Colin Campbell NHL. on a serious note, the inconsistency of the NHL is maddening! The no-goals/goals, headhunting, game suspensions/non-suspensions, it's no wonder the NHL is the laughing stock of the Sports world. I'd like to be in room with Bettman and some media guys and gather up all these controversial calls/non calls and overturned calls and special treatment videos and see how explains them. unfortunately if we want any type of change, we need to stop going and stop watching, and we all know that won't happen. Whatever happened to protesting? This society has turned *****... Edited March 21, 2010 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted March 21, 2010 I finally got to see the hit and it was brutal to watch. He just went down like a tree. But I do believe there is a double standard going on here and it needs to stop. Players who are getting their wrists slapped for hits that put a player out for the season is totally wrong. It's time to get consistent on suspensions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted March 21, 2010 I finally got to see the hit and it was brutal to watch. He just went down like a tree. But I do believe there is a double standard going on here and it needs to stop. Players who are getting their wrists slapped for hits that put a player out for the season is totally wrong. It's time to get consistent on suspensions. If you are referring to Richards and Cooke, those hits weren't illegal. Can't suspend for a rule that is not there to be broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted March 21, 2010 I just think that there is a sense of double standards. Not being specific on one call or another here, but you have to agree that some of the stuff that's going on is being let go, while other things have the League coming down on a player like a ton of bricks. I disagree with you about the hit on Savard being something to let go - I watched the video of that six ways to Sunday and he should have been thrown out for at least a couple games. It was deliberate. I don't want to have a knock-down, drag out fight with you on this, but there has to be some kind of standard set here, and so far I haven't seen that happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted March 21, 2010 I just think that there is a sense of double standards. Not being specific on one call or another here, but you have to agree that some of the stuff that's going on is being let go, while other things have the League coming down on a player like a ton of bricks. I disagree with you about the hit on Savard being something to let go - I watched the video of that six ways to Sunday and he should have been thrown out for at least a couple games. It was deliberate. Especially since, despite what some people say, it WAS an illegal hit - intent to injure is against the rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites