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People keep acting like this is some way abnormal thing. Have any of you paid attention in years past during the off season? Tons of signings don't get done until later in the summer, and no, it has nothing to do with the player's drive or whether he wants to win, don't be ridiculous. Unless you've spoken to Modano himself, you have no idea what he wants or what he's thinking.

You think Modano is taking to time to train like crazy and to see how his body feels over the course of a month? Theoretically he could use that as a way to gauge how he'll feel over the course of a year.

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Does that mean Helm and Abby aren't fully in it either? They've had offers out for longer than Modano and haven't given us a decision. What is with people making these assumptions when they actually have no clue what they are talking about? How do you know what his drive is? You don't.

People keep acting like this is some way abnormal thing. Have any of you paid attention in years past during the off season? Tons of signings don't get done until later in the summer, and no, it has nothing to do with the player's drive or whether he wants to win, don't be ridiculous. Unless you've spoken to Modano himself, you have no idea what he wants or what he's thinking.

Helm and Abby were given qualifying offers which hardly conuts. They are obviously going to try and work out more of a raise or more term then what they were offered. I seem tor remember Holland saying after Modano decides what hes doing he'll work out deals with Helm and Abby

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I don't really understand this whole geographic thing. San Jose isn't exactly just a hot skip and a jump away from Dallas, either. But oh well. I have to agree with people on here, Modano seems to have lost his drive to go all in. In that case, he should probably retire and spare all the teams.

Of course, we won't know if he's lost it til he plays again, but it sure seems that way. Usually when a player takes this long to decide on retirement, it means he's not fully in it.

Really? Brett Farve last year? That panned out pretty well for him.

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I don't really understand this whole geographic thing. San Jose isn't exactly just a hot skip and a jump away from Dallas, either. But oh well. I have to agree with people on here, Modano seems to have lost his drive to go all in. In that case, he should probably retire and spare all the teams.

Of course, we won't know if he's lost it til he plays again, but it sure seems that way. Usually when a player takes this long to decide on retirement, it means he's not fully in it.

If his wife wants to "work" more its not in Dallas its in Cali.

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Really? Brett Farve last year? That panned out pretty well for him.

Well, I don't know. Football isn't really a sport where you need passion to play. If you've got talent like Favre does, you put in a decent effort for a 16 game season (or 20 including a championship run). Quarterback is the least physical position, so it's not like you have to have drive to play 82+ games in which every game you have to constantly be moving and making that extra effort to get the puck that's just out of your reach, or fight for the puck in the corners or to get to the front of the net night in and night out.

Passion counts in hockey. To be brutally honest, I don't think it comes in play much in football, at least from a quarterback's position.

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Well, I don't know. Football isn't really a sport where you need passion to play. If you've got talent like Favre does, you put in a decent effort for a 16 game season (or 20 including a championship run). Quarterback is the least physical position, so it's not like you have to have drive to play 82+ games in which every game you have to constantly be moving and making that extra effort to get the puck that's just out of your reach, or fight for the puck in the corners or to get to the front of the net night in and night out.

Passion counts in hockey. To be brutally honest, I don't think it comes in play much in football, at least from a quarterback's position.

You are vastly underestimating what it takes to be a Hall of Fame quarterback imo.

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Well, I don't know. Football isn't really a sport where you need passion to play. If you've got talent like Favre does, you put in a decent effort for a 16 game season (or 20 including a championship run). Quarterback is the least physical position, so it's not like you have to have drive to play 82+ games in which every game you have to constantly be moving and making that extra effort to get the puck that's just out of your reach, or fight for the puck in the corners or to get to the front of the net night in and night out.

Passion counts in hockey. To be brutally honest, I don't think it comes in play much in football, at least from a quarterback's position.

I can tell you have never been part of a football team before. The hardest thing about football is practice... 5 times a week 2-3 hours a day. It literally takes over your life during the season, you can't really do anything else.

Trust me, it takes alot of passion to play football. What football does to the body over even a 10 game season (which is all i've played) takes a tremendous toll on the body...I can't even imagine a 16 game season.

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Well, I don't know. Football isn't really a sport where you need passion to play. If you've got talent like Favre does, you put in a decent effort for a 16 game season (or 20 including a championship run). Quarterback is the least physical position, so it's not like you have to have drive to play 82+ games in which every game you have to constantly be moving and making that extra effort to get the puck that's just out of your reach, or fight for the puck in the corners or to get to the front of the net night in and night out.

Passion counts in hockey. To be brutally honest, I don't think it comes in play much in football, at least from a quarterback's position.

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Well, I don't know. Football isn't really a sport where you need passion to play. If you've got talent like Favre does, you put in a decent effort for a 16 game season (or 20 including a championship run). Quarterback is the least physical position, so it's not like you have to have drive to play 82+ games in which every game you have to constantly be moving and making that extra effort to get the puck that's just out of your reach, or fight for the puck in the corners or to get to the front of the net night in and night out.

Passion counts in hockey. To be brutally honest, I don't think it comes in play much in football, at least from a quarterback's position.

You don't need passion to play football at the highest levels?

Really?

I mean really?

You may think hockey is a better sport than football. Cool. That's fine. I don't like watching some sports like baseball or soccer as much as I enjoy watching hockey and football. Soccer requires ridiculous conditioning to play at a high level running around for 90+ minutes straight, and baseball is a grind for 160+ games in hot weather. I may not fully like those sports but I respect the wear/tear and grind that it takes to play those games if you want to be fully committed to it. Just like football, an intense off-season/in-season grind of weight training, hitting, and thinking nearly an entire year.

But you need passion to play any sport or do your job to the best of your ability, regardless of the sport or career. To say you don't need passion in football or any profession to do well in it is plain idiotic, no matter how much you might not like a sport/job.

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Well, I don't know. Football isn't really a sport where you need passion to play. If you've got talent like Favre does, you put in a decent effort for a 16 game season (or 20 including a championship run). Quarterback is the least physical position, so it's not like you have to have drive to play 82+ games in which every game you have to constantly be moving and making that extra effort to get the puck that's just out of your reach, or fight for the puck in the corners or to get to the front of the net night in and night out.

Passion counts in hockey. To be brutally honest, I don't think it comes in play much in football, at least from a quarterback's position.

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I don't think Modano will end up in Detroit...Just don't see it happening.

I would rather the Wings sign a solid #6 D-Man anyways.

They can get a 6th dman, sign abdelkader, helm, AND modano for 1.25, make a few trades and be under the cap and have 500k over for injuries.

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I hate football and don't even watch it and even I know this is a dumb post.

Or is the reason why you don't watch football because of the lack of passion? :hehe:

They can get a 6th dman, sign abdelkader, helm, AND modano for 1.25, make a few trades and be under the cap and have 500k over for injuries.

They could, so I will take the rather out...

But I still don't see Modano winding up here. I think he will either retire or go to Minnesota and try to get a cup for the city he started with...

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Minnesota seems fitting,but they've got like 15 forwards under contract.San Jose has a vacant 3rd line center spot with the departure of Manny Malhotra to Vancouver.

This is what I've been saying/thinking as well. San Jose seems to be the obvious fit, along with Detroit of course...

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he won't go to minnesota. If they guy is gonna continue to play, he is gonna do so with a team that has a chance to win the stanley cup. Sure minnesota would be neat because of the sentimental value, but that feeling would only last so long when untill he feels like he wants to retire again. The Wings are ALWAYS a contender and have only got better since the season ended. San Jose could be a contender but I don't think it would be as good of a fit for some reason. I still think it is Detroit or done.

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I think we should stick with the idea of giving the youth the playing time.I like the idea of getting younger.Modano is simply a want.He is,in no way,shape,or form,a need for this team.

I agree, he's not a need. But I also think he's going to give Detroit the deepest Top 9 in the league. Just out of curiosity, who would you put in that spot? I think the majority of young, true talent that the Red Wings have is still a year or two or more away from the NHL. If he were taking the ice time of Tatar, Mursak, Nyquist or Nestrasil then I would be opposed to it, but I don't think signing Modano is going to really knock someone deserving out of a spot. Just my opinion, though.

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I agree that signing Modano would give us a dominant top 9.I also agree that many of our prospects should take another year to develop before bringing them up.I think we need to sign or trade for guys like Mike Comrie,guys that will get their 40 points like Modano will,but will provide much needed grit and will also be a bit younger than Modano.What would you like to see done with this whole situation?

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Modano scored 16 goals in 59 games last year which projected over 82 games is equivalent to 22 goals. We would be adding a 20 goals scorer with strong veteran presence and leadership. As a result, we will lose either Ritola or Miller most likely. Which do you think gives us a better chance for the Cup?

You have to realize that that was a year ago. Once a player hits the big 40, his stats drop more than BP's stock.

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I agree that signing Modano would give us a dominant top 9.I also agree that many of our prospects should take another year to develop before bringing them up.I think we need to sign or trade for guys like Mike Comrie,guys that will get their 40 points like Modano will,but will provide much needed grit and will also be a bit younger than Modano.What would you like to see done with this whole situation?

I would agree with the idea of someone like Comrie, but I don't think we could get him for the reported 1.25 million the team offered Modano. I also think Comrie is pretty soft too, when compared with Modano it's pretty much the same deal in terms of hitting, etc. I haven't watched much of Comrie, so if I'm missing something in terms of his toughness then I apologize.

I kind of view Modano as a stop-gap. Someone to fill the role of 3rd line center until someone else in the system becomes good enough to fill it. Cory Emmerton hasn't exactly panned out the way most people would have hoped, and McGrath kind of crapped out right before him.

I think the Red Wings have definitely seen the need for depth at center, given their selections in this past draft. Sheahan, Jarnkrok, Aubry and Macek have all spent time playing center, so maybe one day they'll make the team and give us some depth.

In the more recent future, I actually have big hopes for Joakim Andersson, who's coming over to Grand Rapids this season. He's shown up pretty big at the last two WJC for Sweden. I think if Modano can fill in for a year or two, Andersson could fill that role and become a checking center with a little bit of offensive potential.

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Couple of weeks ago, I was thinking this Modano signing was a sure thing. But now, after all this time has passed, I doubt he's coming here.

He said he wasn't going to drag this out because he understands that Holland needs to manage the cap and lock people up. Now he's being a dick by not just saying "no" to Detroit.

I think Kenny should move on.

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