Rivalred 630 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) Abby...obviously. Beat at your own game hillbilly! Keeny and company grabbing Abby, not too shabby FF to 2:16 mark Edited August 23, 2010 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 what is keeny and co grabbing again? Hahaha... Like Cartman on South Park? Kinny!!! 1 Jesusberg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 That must be based on the previous seasons' salary. Last year, Abdelkader's base salary was $710,000 with a potential performance bonus of $140,000 (which he must not have met). Since he made more than $660k but less than $1 million he was due a 5% raise, which would've put him at no less than $745,5000. Not too shabby if you're Ken Holland! He did get at least $50k of his bonus money. Not that it matters though. The mandatory 5% raise is only for the qualifying offer. He could have signed for league minimum if he'd wanted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 He did get at least $50k of his bonus money. Not that it matters though. The mandatory 5% raise is only for the qualifying offer. He could have signed for league minimum if he'd wanted. Really? That seems kind of ridiculous if the player was given his qualifying offer which would be more than the league minimum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Abby...obviously. Beat at your own game hillbilly! hahahahah YOU GUYS LEAVE ME ALONE!!!! hahahah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 hahahahah YOU GUYS LEAVE ME ALONE!!!! hahahah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 CANNOT WAIT for this season to start. Every line is pure awesome. On paper we have to be the best team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Freep is reporting the terms now: He’ll make $750' date='000 this season and $825,000 next season, for an annual salary cap hit of $787,500.[/quote']http://www.freep.com/article/20100823/SPORTS05/100823026/1053/Red-Wings-reach-2-year-deal-with-Justin-Abdelkader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 good s***. i say the more ice time you give this guy the more hell contribute. hes got good stats on all the teams he played on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Really? That seems kind of ridiculous if the player was given his qualifying offer which would be more than the league minimum. Most qualifying offers are 1 year, 2-way deals for whatever the minimum required amount is. The majority of them are rejected, and then real negotiations start. A player might reject an offer to negotiate for a higher salary, longer term, more secure spot on the roster, or just to see what offers they might get from other teams. Accepting his qualifying offer might have meant Abby spent the season in GR, making ~$700k or so less. So not that ridiculous. And that's just assuming his deal is actually less than his QO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Really? That seems kind of ridiculous if the player was given his qualifying offer which would be more than the league minimum. The only way I can see a player even considering it is if he wants a multi-year deal and that is more more important than a little bit more money. But yeah, I agree that it would be an odd situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Most qualifying offers are 1 year, 2-way deals for whatever the minimum required amount is. The majority of them are rejected, and then real negotiations start. A player might reject an offer to negotiate for a higher salary, longer term, more secure spot on the roster, or just to see what offers they might get from other teams. Accepting his qualifying offer might have meant Abby spent the season in GR, making ~$700k or so less. So not that ridiculous. And that's just assuming his deal is actually less than his QO. I understand all that...my point is that 99.9% of time no player in their right mind is going to make less than their QO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Hahaha... Like Cartman on South Park? Kinny!!! I'm glad someone else thought this too. I don't feel as nerdy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Abby's the man! You're my boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Obvious that we're going to trade, but we ARE still under the cap aren't we? If i calculated it right about 80K-ish. Now that this is over, just wait and see who's heading out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Obvious that we're going to trade, but we ARE still under the cap aren't we? If i calculated it right about 80K-ish. Now that this is over, just wait and see who's heading out Depends on the potential bonuses for Modo and Salei. If both performance bonus' are met, the Wings are now actually $775,377 over the cap, which would have to apply to next years' team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Depends on the potential bonuses for Modo and Salei. If both performance bonus' are met, the Wings are now actually $775,377 over the cap, which would have to apply to next years' team. Can it apply to this year's cap if we are $775 377 under the cap? This damn CBA is so confusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Can it apply to this year's cap if we are $775 377 under the cap? This damn CBA is so confusing. Absolutely it can. Bonuses can apply to either this year or the following. But his question was based on no one being be moved. If that's the case and both Modo and Salei's bonuses are met, then they'd be $775,377 over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Absolutely it can. Bonuses can apply to either this year or the following. But his question was based on no one being be moved. If that's the case and both Modo and Salei's bonuses are met, then they'd be $775,377 over. The cap is only half the issue. There's also the 23 man roster limit. Currently, counting Ritola and all bonuses, we have 25 players and ~$1.3 million over the cap. Moving Meech and using the bonus cushion (if bonuses are met) gives us the cap we need, but we still need to move one more player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 I understand all that...my point is that 99.9% of time no player in their right mind is going to make less than their QO. Not that rare. Neither Meech nor Ritola got their raises either. Leino didn't last year. I think a few of Chicago's RFAs didn't. But for a player like Abby, who seems to have a solid future in the NHL, you might be pretty close. I think in most cases it's players like Ritola, who haven't really shown themselves to be NHLers, that get less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 He'll have to get used to playing wing. That is, if Helm is the 4th line center and Modano/Filppula is the 3rd line center. Doesn't sound like it should be too hard but I think Abby has played center his whole life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) He'll have to get used to playing wing. That is, if Helm is the 4th line center and Modano/Filppula is the 3rd line center. Doesn't sound like it should be too hard but I think Abby has played center his whole life. Wings' centers to start the season: (may change during the course of the season of course) Zetterberg Filppula Modano Helm/Abdelkader (toss up) Edited August 23, 2010 by mindfly 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Wings' centers to start the season: (may change during the course of the season of course) Zetterberg Filppula Modano Helm/Abdelkader (toss up) Don't know about Zetterberg as the first line center. Datsyuk did a lot better on faceoffs last year from what I remember. But they'll probably play it by ear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) Zetterberg can cheat a bit as he is the primary centre and if he get tossed out datsyuk is there to win it, it's awesome to have two players of that calibre to take the faceoffs Edited August 23, 2010 by mindfly 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted August 23, 2010 Abby for under $800 000 for 2 years? That is greasy! Like many have said before. DROP THE PUCK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
