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Red Wings' Valtteri Filppula (groin) questionable for Friday; Patrick Eaves ready to play

Filppula said his status will be determined after Friday's morning skate. I know I didn’t pull it or anything like that, maybe tweaked it somehow.’’

At least Patty Sunshine is coming back.

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Kind of surprised there's no mention of Howard as a runner-up...

You know, Eva, your flagrant bias has become even more bizarre this season. Apparently you're ignoring the fact that Howard is currently 22-7 and leads the NHL in wins.

We know you love Osgood. We know you love Hudler. Unfortunately, we also know that you often lose touch with reality when it comes to discussing them.

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You know, Eva, your flagrant bias has become even more bizarre this season. Apparently you're ignoring the fact that Howard is currently 22-7 and leads the NHL in wins.

We know you love Osgood. We know you love Hudler. Unfortunately, we also know that you often lose touch with reality when it comes to discussing them.

Amen

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You know, Eva, your flagrant bias has become even more bizarre this season. Apparently you're ignoring the fact that Howard is currently 22-7 and leads the NHL in wins.

We know you love Osgood. We know you love Hudler. Unfortunately, we also know that you often lose touch with reality when it comes to discussing them.

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Huds has 8 points in his last 10 games..

The quietest 8 pts in 10 games Ive seen in some time I might add. Honestly, whether people like Hudler or hate Hudler you've got to look at this objectively. His play has improved dramatically. Obviously there still is room to improve (like taking shot opportunities when they are right in front of him) but lately he has become a far more dangerous offensive player. He is engaging way more and helping to create chances while playing with Filppula and Bertuzzi.

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The quietest 8 pts in 10 games Ive seen in some time I might add. Honestly, whether people like Hudler or hate Hudler you've got to look at this objectively. His play has improved dramatically. Obviously there still is room to improve (like taking shot opportunities when they are right in front of him) but lately he has become a far more dangerous offensive player. He is engaging way more and helping to create chances while playing with Filppula and Bertuzzi.

At least he is producing now but watching the games is pathetic. His lack of defensive competence and strength is baffling. I really hope he continues to put up points, but only to increase his trade value.

He was a 4th liner the last 2 playoffs (he might've even been scratched in 08), and that was for good reason. His game does not translate to the playoffs when it gets rough. Get someone who can contribute when it matters most and use Hudler as a piece in a trade

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At least he is producing now but watching the games is pathetic. His lack of defensive competence and strength is baffling. I really hope he continues to put up points, but only to increase his trade value.

He was a 4th liner the last 2 playoffs (he might've even been scratched in 08), and that was for good reason. His game does not translate to the playoffs when it gets rough. Get someone who can contribute when it matters most and use Hudler as a piece in a trade

He wasn't scratched in either playoff year.

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He wasn't scratched in either playoff year.

Indeed. In 08 he was one of the team's top scorers through the first two rounds.

Also, I wasn't aware they removed the PP from the playoffs. In that case Newfy's right in saying Hudler's game doesn't translate to the playoffs. No need for a PP specialist forward.

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At least he is producing now but watching the games is pathetic. His lack of defensive competence and strength is baffling. I really hope he continues to put up points, but only to increase his trade value.

He was a 4th liner the last 2 playoffs (he might've even been scratched in 08), and that was for good reason. His game does not translate to the playoffs when it gets rough. Get someone who can contribute when it matters most and use Hudler as a piece in a trade

This is exactly what I am talking about. Hudler has become this year's whipping boy so people have blinders on when looking at his game. If people would for one second look at thing objectively you might gain some perspective. Hudler was never the most defensively skilled forward so to expect him to suddenly make a vast improvement to that area of his game is being unrealistic. Maybe you should take note of the turnover he created, in Saturday's game against Columbus, at our blueline that lead to Filppula's goal. Not the greatest defensive play in the world but it was a solid defensive play none the less that sent the Wings moving the other way and turned the momentum in the Wings favour. Secondly, you want to quote strength. The guy is small and always has been. Again, you can point out the negatives to the guy's game that have been there since the day the Wing's drafted him all you want. If you want you can also point out that Lidstrom isn't a physical defenseman that is a real bummer because the 2010-11 Wings team, according to so many on this forum, lack team grit but it doesnt mean that Lidstrom doesn't have other redeemable qualities. Pointing out someone's flaws (Hudler's lack of defensive competence and strength) doesnt diminish his positives. It's just a weak attempt to hide his redeemable qualities.

No one is going to say that this year has been a good, or even decent, year so far for Hudler. But whipping boy or not, people need to learn how to look at things objectively. With the bad comes the good at times and people should give respect where respect is due. Over the course of the last 10 games Hudler play has improved (and yes there is still room to grow). He has stepped up and done a part in the depth scoring that the Wings have needed while the injuries have piled up.

For the record, I'm not even a Hudler slappy

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Indeed. In 08 he was one of the team's top scorers through the first two rounds.

Also, I wasn't aware they removed the PP from the playoffs. In that case Newfy's right in saying Hudler's game doesn't translate to the playoffs. No need for a PP specialist forward.

I would hardly call Hudler a PP specialist, Homer is a specialist. He can put up 25 goals a year basically on the PP.

Hudler is a one dimensional player who can play the PP but do you really think Hudler looks like anything special out there? Homer is a huge component of our PP but if the wings were to put Stuart or even Ericcson back there I really doubt it would make much difference. Hudler is on the PP to get him going and get some points, not because he is amazing on the point. Is Jason Williams a PP specialist too, or just a guy who can play the PP.

When Hudler was a 60 point guy, playing much better hockey then this, he was on the 4th line in playoffs. For a guy who contributes so many points you would think he would be getting some quality minutes, but no he doesn't because he doesn't have the right game for playoffs.

Also in 08, the wings had a much more conventional third line of Drake Draper Maltby. They were out on the ice more because they play a playoff style. We won the cup in the end so its hard to argue that philosophy.

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