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Swedish star - Carl Hagelin sign with the Wings?

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so Hagelin is in the CCHA, whoop-dee-doo. Anyone forget Mattias Ritola who was in the system for an eternity (he was a fourth round pick 2005)?? Swedish centerman prospect to boot, and he's still only 23... dumped for nothing.

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so Hagelin is in the CCHA, whoop-dee-doo. Anyone forget Mattias Ritola who was in the system for an eternity (he was a fourth round pick 2005)?? Swedish centerman prospect to boot, and he's still only 23... dumped for nothing.

And is deaf on one ear and has a serious ear discease in the other ear...

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And is deaf on one ear and has a serious ear discease in the other ear...

That is the same disease, which caused him to go deaf in the one ear...

Poor guy

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And is deaf on one ear and has a serious ear discease in the other ear...

which disease is this?

edit: oh, meniere's disease. that's a bad one - especially for an athlete relying on balance, sheesh.

i learned quite a lot about that in the speech and hearing sciences course i just finished. poor guy.

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And is deaf on one ear and has a serious ear discease in the other ear...

Heyy, you're back!!!

Been so quiet here...

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I feel like this is Zuccarello 2.0

also it seems like everytime I see the quote about signing with Detroit....they don't sign with Detroit.

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I know everyone hates Leino on here and I do too. However, the style he plays is not the "Detroit style which is why he struggled here and he's excelled in Philly because they've let him play the way that suites him best. I'm more pissed at the team aka Babcock for not recognizing his skill set and letting him play to his strengths. We lost a guy that could have been a gamebreaker for us, like he's been for Philly because of it.

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I know everyone hates Leino on here and I do too. However, the style he plays is not the "Detroit style which is why he struggled here and he's excelled in Philly because they've let him play the way that suites him best. I'm more pissed at the team aka Babcock for not recognizing his skill set and letting him play to his strengths. We lost a guy that could have been a gamebreaker for us, like he's been for Philly because of it.

How exactly was he limited here? It's not like we tried to make him a goalie. Babcock wanted him to play hard, be willing to go to the tough areas, and shoot more. Which is exactly what he's done since he's come on in Philly.

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How exactly was he limited here? It's not like we tried to make him a goalie. Babcock wanted him to play hard, be willing to go to the tough areas, and shoot more. Which is exactly what he's done since he's come on in Philly.

I'm not exactly defending Leino here with the following comment. It's actually from a place that just dislikes Jason Williams. On the line of Leino-Filppula-Williams, which was what they started the year with, I'm almost positive Babs demanded that Leino play the role of Cleary/Homer on that line. I'm sure Leino thought, "How does this guy get to be one of the two skill guys on this line over me?"

Not saying Leino was justified for not playing hard enough, but if I were Leino I probably wouldn't like seeing a ****** like Williams have a job that I think I should have.

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I'm not exactly defending Leino here with the following comment. It's actually from a place that just dislikes Jason Williams. On the line of Leino-Filppula-Williams, which was what they started the year with, I'm almost positive Babs demanded that Leino play the role of Cleary/Homer on that line. I'm sure Leino thought, "How does this guy get to be one of the two skill guys on this line over me?"

Not saying Leino was justified for not playing hard enough, but if I were Leino I probably wouldn't like seeing a ****** like Williams have a job that I think I should have.

Yeah, except for the part where that didn't actually happen, you have a point.

Not even Homer gets pigeon-holed into the 'Homer role' all that often 5v5. We're not on the PP all game, and at even strength every player on the ice is expected to move around, pursue the puck, get open, shoot, make plays...that's exactly what has made us so good for so long is that we specifically don't try to limit our players. Leino was never asked to just park himself in front of the net. He had plenty of freedom offensively.

And while that line didn't produce many points, they did earn a lot of praise pre-season and the first handful of games for all the chances and pressure they created. It was only after like 8-10 games that Babs started pointing out that you can't score if no one shoots, or shoots only from the perimeter with no traffic or net crashing for rebounds.

Shortly after that Flip got hurt, then Willy. Leino had chances with better players and more minutes, PP time...but he kept getting worse and played himself off the team. Then he goes to Philly and eventually started doing all the things Babs said he needed to do, and surprise, he was successful.

I suppose you could say the defensive responsibility all our players are expected to show was limiting, but it's not like he was asked to be a checker. He's a scorer that was put in a scoring role. Maybe he didn't fit Babcock's style, or didn't mesh on or off the ice with his teammates, or just lost confidence and got frustrated. Maybe needed more ice time with better/different linemates more suited to compensate for his weaknesses. Maybe couldn't take the pressuure of being expected to score when injuries started piling up. Maybe he was just lazy and sucked.

But to suggest his talent wasn't recognized and he was mis-used is ridiculous. Flip and Willy maybe weren't the best linemates, but he was a rookie and it was a short period of games that looked promising at first. Without the injuries the lines would have been juggled eventually, and maybe we'd have found a combination with better results. With the injuries it was surely a tough situation for Leino, and I don't have any ill-will towards him. But you can't blame the team.

Sorry for going way off-topic.

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