toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 For some reason, I get the feeling that Crosby would be nowhere near the All-Star game if that were the case. I'd guess he'd still be the top vote getter. In a recent poll of players (small sample though, only 26 players from 10 different teams, 5 in the East and 5 in the west), 100% of those players picked Crosby as the best player in the league. Of course, the question was "Who's the best player in the league, Crosby or Ovechkin?" - so if the question was simply who is the best player, he may or may not have rec'd 100% of the votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Is there a mandatory "atleast one player from each team" like it's been in some years, even phoenix sent Doan even though he was far from good that year etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 I stand corrected But lidstrom and datsyuk should be two of those 36 i think, even if datsyuk has been injured. Yeah probably, but I think it would be stretch to also include Zetterberg. Doubt you'll see 3 players from the same team. The Pens have 4 because of voting (3 probably deserve it), but if the NHL operations were picking, they probably wouldn't want that much representation from one team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Only in Chicago. Every other real hockey fan could give two s***s about them. You wouldn't have any Chicago fans in any other NHL venue had it not been for their recent success. Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Hasek back in 2002, right? That was North America vs. the World. According to wikipedia, Shanahan, Fedorov, Hasek and Lidstrom were the starters. Obviously, Shanny was not playing for the same team as the other three guys. Chelios was also playing, but not starting. I guess with that format, there's more potential for a single team to have 5 guys playing in an ASG, and 4 of them starting. Still, that wasn't the year I was thinking of. I was thinking of recent history and the current Wings team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Is there a mandatory "atleast one player from each team" like it's been in some years, even phoenix sent Doan even though he was far from good that year etc Good question, haven't seen anything on that yet. It's been that way in the recent past, but a lot of other changes are being implemented this year, so you never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Oh you're talking about starters... i only watched the 2002 playoffs so did the wings really have 4 voted-in players? Yes. See my post above. Edited January 4, 2011 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Probably important to note that the concept of "starters" no longer exists either, which is apparent by the headline "First 6....". Obviously, you can't have a starting line up made up of only 6 players anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Why don't we stack the ballot? Conspiracy indeed. I would rather they skip it and get some rest. If a player did say to the fans he really wanted to go then I would vote. 1 ogreslayer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 I'd guess he'd still be the top vote getter. In a recent poll of players (small sample though, only 26 players from 10 different teams, 5 in the East and 5 in the west), 100% of those players picked Crosby as the best player in the league. Of course, the question was "Who's the best player in the league, Crosby or Ovechkin?" - so if the question was simply who is the best player, he may or may not have rec'd 100% of the votes. Huh, I actually remember reading a poll just last month or so that stated that in a poll of something like 126 current NHL players, Datsyuk was overwhelmingly voted the best player in the league (46% or so). Wish I could find it, but I swear I read it recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsgirl001 983 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Oh gee, there's a surprise. They might as well make it the Pens vs Everyone Else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAredwingsfan91 28 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 instead of voting for our guys to go to the game why don't we try and keep them out to rest up? let these other fan's vote for crosby and all the other obvious choices every year i say we keep our boys out and let them use the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Huh, I actually remember reading a poll just last month or so that stated that in a poll of something like 126 current NHL players, Datsyuk was overwhelmingly voted the best player in the league (46% or so). Wish I could find it, but I swear I read it recently. This was part of the Winter Classic hoopla...questions are limited to Crosby vs. Ovechkin though. http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/insider/news/story?id=5970887&action=upsell&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/insider/news/story%3fid%3d5970887 I'm not an insider, so I don't have full access, but I was able to find the results at least: ESPN conduced a pre-Winter Classic poll of the NHL players. The Penguin-relevant questions and the results are: 1. Who is better? Crosby or Ovechkin?100% of the voters picked Crosby over Ovechkin 2. Is Crosby a dirty player 100% of the voters voted No, he is not a dirty player 3. Who do you respect more, Crosby or Ovechkin? 65.4% of the voters picked Crosby over Ovechkin 4. Who would you want as a teammate, Crosby or Ovechkin? 84.5% picked Crosby over Ovechkin 5. Which team would you want to join, Pittsburgh or Washington? 69.2% picked the Penguins over the Capitals 6. Which team would be the more fearsome playoff opponent, Pittsburgh or Washington? 76.9% picked the Penguins over the Capitals 7. Which team has the better coach, Pittsburgh or Washington? 50% picked Bylsma, 15.4% picked Boudreau and 34.6% abstained 8. Which team, the Penguins or the Capitals, have the better fans? 53.8% picked the Penguins, 30.8% picked the Capitals, 15.4% abstained 9. Which city do you more enjoy visiting, Pittsburgh or Washington? 25 of the 26 players who responded to this question picked Washington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Those starters are a joke, but we all saw that coming. Letang was actually a write-in vote, which is kind of cool; I guess. I really hope Lidstrom is named a Captain out of respect at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Those starters are a joke, but we all saw that coming. Letang was actually a write-in vote, which is kind of cool; I guess. I really hope Lidstrom is named a Captain out of respect at the very least. I'm sure Lidstrom would be one of the captains, but not so sure about the other captain, I'll reserve my guess until I see the total pool of 42 players from which to pick. instead of voting for our guys to go to the game why don't we try and keep them out to rest up? let these other fan's vote for crosby and all the other obvious choices every year i say we keep our boys out and let them use the rest. I hear this all the time, but I don't really understand it. If the team has great players, which is a good thing, then some of those great players will get selected for the all star team, regardless if they are voted in by the fans or not. Not having anyone selected probably means the team isn't very good and that's not what I want. I also enjoy watching these guys at the skills competition, etc. Otherwise, I'd probably have very little interest in watching (still some, but very little). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 it kind of sucks that in the voting that the same people can vote multiple times. i understand it would be hard to limit each person to one vote, but the winners seem to be the fans who sit at their computer for 2 hours at work everyday and submit 35 votes a day for the same players. it almost turns into which teams have the fans with the most time on their hands win, not necessarily the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 For some reason, I get the feeling that Crosby would be nowhere near the All-Star game if that were the case. Oh come on, the kid is raping the league right now. He is far and away the best player offensively this year. Give credit where credit is due. 2 Nev and puffy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Oh come on, the kid is raping the league right now. He is far and away the best player offensively this year. Give credit where credit is due. i think hes saying that if it wasnt performance based but chosen by players he wouldnt be around. but i still dont really believe that because i think the players tend to have different feelings towards other players than the fans do. you gotta remember that these guys play on the same olympic squads, junior squads, or country men so they get to know each other more than we do. we only see the s***ty d-bag side of crosby, not the cool-tight side of him, if there is one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Oh come on, the kid is raping the league right now. He is far and away the best player offensively this year. Give credit where credit is due. Nice choice of words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Like I said wayyyy back in the ASG thread, only Montreal, Pittsburgh and Chicago fans vote. I can't believe how right I was! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Toews, Letang and Fleury :lol: ASG is still a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Come to think of it, I can't recall the last time I actually watched the NHL ASG. I can't remember the last time I watched baseball's ASG either, though I did watch the pre-game ceremony in 2008. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Toews, Letang and Fleury :lol: ASG is still a joke. Letang is having a stellar year so far though, so you cant hate on that. toews and fluery is another story... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Put me squarely in the camp of those who would rather not see any of the Wings in the ASG. Even with the new format, it's still largely a joke & I would rather have the boys use that time to rest & recharge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 This is a joke, I cant wait to see Fleury get lit up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 The ridiculous way these players are voted in by the fans is only magnified by their participation in the ASG being used later as a "stat" to support how good they are. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
