Guest Crymson Report post Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Are you getting trade deadline and playoffs mixed up? No. Teams have no roster limits after the trade deadline, so far as I know. Edited January 22, 2011 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 honestly any other team besides Chicago or San Jose would be fine by me. I wouldn't go back to San Jose as they blamed everything on him for the non playoff success and Chicago just sucks in general. that is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Bobby Mac lays out the whole situation and all possibilities here: Many Confused By Nabokov Waiver Situation Very nice simple summary 1 IceMunkee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 We all knew this could happen, but the Sharks or Chicago would sting a bit more. Send him to the east or to someone that won't make the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 No. Teams have no roster limits after the trade deadline, so far as I know. Fair enough. I know that once playoffs come around the cap hits are null and so is the roster size. i didn't know that the roster size was null after the trade deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 mlive Might not matter now, or never did, but some of the Wings' takes on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 No. Teams have no roster limits after the trade deadline, so far as I know. Did some research and you are right. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 WeNo matter what, it was a long shot from the start. Hopefully for the folks that think this was to motivate Jimmy, hopefully he got the message and he gets better. Beware Mr. Howard we DO have the nuts to replace you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I feel like Mr. Bettman and company have a war room and come up with stuff that hinders us. No one even thought of Nabby until we did and BAM! there is a rule to hinder our amazing GM and alert the s***ty ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 If Nabokov clears Waivers, and ends up in Detroit... AND if he's allowed to even compete for the Starting role, let alone win it from Howard.... That's proof positive that Babcock is a liar with his "Howie is our Starter. We're going to ride him." schtick, and that his bias against Osgood was personal. Just as some here have opined. 2 GoWings1905 and Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I really think Ken Holland is a sly old dog. He's hedging his bets. This is insurance of a bargain basement form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 I am still wondering who Kenny was doing a favor for with this Nabokov deal, or what the reasoning was behind it, because it was obvious from the jump that he was not going to clear wavers. I'm still hoping Kenny has something up his sleeve and this wasn't just a random shot in the dark... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 If Nabokov clears Waivers, and ends up in Detroit... AND if he's allowed to even compete for the Starting role, let alone win it from Howard.... That's proof positive that Babcock is a liar with his "Howie is our Starter. We're going to ride him." schtick, and that his bias against Osgood was personal. Just as some here have opined. so it would be ok to keep allowing 4+goals a game even in the playoffs ? I mean because we are not here to win right ? We are just a team with a name on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 If Nabokov clears Waivers, and ends up in Detroit... AND if he's allowed to even compete for the Starting role, let alone win it from Howard.... That's proof positive that Babcock is a liar with his "Howie is our Starter. We're going to ride him." schtick, and that his bias against Osgood was personal. Just as some here have opined. .........or he just likes winning hockey games. Either one 3 IceMunkee, DatsyukianDekes and Mr.Macphisto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 If Nabokov clears Waivers, and ends up in Detroit... AND if he's allowed to even compete for the Starting role, let alone win it from Howard.... That's proof positive that Babcock is a liar with his "Howie is our Starter. We're going to ride him." schtick, and that his bias against Osgood was personal. Just as some here have opined. No offense but Ozzie has been given an opportunity this year and played pretty decent and if he wasn't injured he'd probably still be playing. As far as Nabby bs Ozzie... Nabby has been the better goalie for most of the last 10 years accept one season, 1 IceMunkee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) so it would be ok to keep allowing 4+goals a game even in the playoffs ? I mean because we are not here to win right ? We are just a team with a name on it. I am not saying Osgood or Howard have been great as both have their own issues but good team defense would help out a lot in the goals against department. Edited January 22, 2011 by dragonballgtz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Everyone here is over analyzing the situation. Nabokov will be a Red Wing or won't be in the NHL at all. Think about it... Nabokov wants to play for the Wings; obviously. Unfortunately, he has the possibility of being snatched away on waivers. If Nabokov is claimed by another team then he can just say that he doesn't want to play for that team. He's not signing to play for any NHL team, he's signing to play with the RED WINGS. 250k is peanuts for a guy that just made 30 million over the last 5 years. For a guy making this much money, it wouldn't be worth moving across continents to play with a subpar team that has no chance of winning. My gut says that Nabokov will be a RED WING. However, if he is claimed, I predict he rejects the offer and stays in Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) I am not saying Osgood or Howard have been great as both have their own issues but good team defense would help out a lot in the goals against department. I totally agree the defense is partly to blame also, but after seeing Howard and the end of last year and beginning of this year (especially with the first game of the year shutout) I had some decent expectations for his play this year. Edited January 22, 2011 by darkmanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MOG1TIM611 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Lawson for the NYI suffered a Left Knee injury tonight and Depietro isnt with the team because of the flu... I bet the islanders put in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Lawson for the NYI suffered a Left Knee injury tonight and Depietro isnt with the team because of the flu... I bet the islanders put in better them than the Sharks or Hawks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stinky fish taco Report post Posted January 22, 2011 If Nabokov clears Waivers, and ends up in Detroit... AND if he's allowed to even compete for the Starting role, let alone win it from Howard.... That's proof positive that Babcock is a liar with his "Howie is our Starter. We're going to ride him." schtick, and that his bias against Osgood was personal. Just as some here have opined. are you making a reference to last season, when howard's stats absolutely destroyed osgood's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 No offense but Ozzie has been given an opportunity this year and played pretty decent and if he wasn't injured he'd probably still be playing. As far as Nabby bs Ozzie... Nabby has been the better goalie for most of the last 10 years accept one season, Then why was it that, when Osgood went in for surgery, and the Wings re-called Joey MacDonald, that Babcock stated that "nothing would change", that they'd continue to "ride Howard" just as if Osgood hadn't been injured, and use Mac in the games that "Ozzie would've played", such as back-to-back games? It's been clear since 2005 that Babs has a dislike for Osgood. Since Oz went down with injury LAST Season, he was given ZERO opportunity to regain the Starting role. Babcock has stated, repeatedly that it's because "Howie is our guy. We're sticking with him." If he allows a DIFFERENT goalie an opportunity to take the Starting job from Howard, where he wouldn't allow Osgood even the opportunity to even COMPETE for it.... Then how does that not make a liar of the man, and prove that it was ALWAYS about "Anyone BUT Osgood gets a shot! ANYONE, including Manny Freakin' Legace!" 1 GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 Then why was it that, when Osgood went in for surgery, and the Wings re-called Joey MacDonald, that Babcock stated that "nothing would change", that they'd continue to "ride Howard" just as if Osgood hadn't been injured, and use Mac in the games that "Ozzie would've played", such as back-to-back games? It's been clear since 2005 that Babs has a dislike for Osgood. Since Oz went down with injury LAST Season, he was given ZERO opportunity to regain the Starting role. Babcock has stated, repeatedly that it's because "Howie is our guy. We're sticking with him." If he allows a DIFFERENT goalie an opportunity to take the Starting job from Howard, where he wouldn't allow Osgood even the opportunity to even COMPETE for it.... Then how does that not make a liar of the man, and prove that it was ALWAYS about "Anyone BUT Osgood gets a shot! ANYONE, including Manny Freakin' Legace!" I feel as though you are stating your off base opinions as facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 are you making a reference to last season, when howard's stats absolutely ******* destroyed osgood's? When Osgood went down with the injury last Season, HIS stats were "absolutely ******* destroying Howard's". Then Howard got in there, got a hundred or so games in a row, and when Osgood came BACK from injury, he got ONE game... And played well. Then he sat. And then he got another game. And played well. Then he sat. And sat. And sat. For WEEKS. After that, he played ONE game every MONTH or so. Coming in cold, right off an injury, and thrown into games against the Caps, and the 'Hawks, on the second night of back-to-back games... And then he'd SIT. Again. For another 3 weeks or so. Osgood was never given the opportunity to re-gain the Starting role. Never. He was banished to the bench for the entire second half of the Season. And the Wings paid for it in the Play Offs. You remember what you want to remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted January 22, 2011 When Osgood went down with the injury last Season, HIS stats were "absolutely ******* destroying Howard's". Then Howard got in there, got a hundred or so games in a row, and when Osgood came BACK from injury, he got ONE game... And played well. Then he sat. And then he got another game. And played well. Then he sat. And sat. And sat. For WEEKS. After that, he played ONE game every MONTH or so. Coming in cold, right off an injury, and thrown into games against the Caps, and the 'Hawks, on the second night of back-to-back games... And then he'd SIT. Again. For another 3 weeks or so. Osgood was never given the opportunity to re-gain the Starting role. Never. He was banished to the bench for the entire second half of the Season. And the Wings paid for it in the Play Offs. You remember what you want to remember. Give the conspiracy theories a rest for the night. Osgood was considerably worse than Howard last year and Jimmy almost played to a Calder then was just too gassed at the end. Nothing more or less. This isn't "Who shot JFK?" 3 evilmrt, teebo and IceMunkee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
