WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 I don't think it should be a suspension- the hit is the definition of a 2 min elbowing penalty to me (although they aren't called anymore). Abby's elbow was not raised about his shoulder and it looked like Seabrook stopped just as Abby went to hit him. Also, notice that Seabrook tried to sell the call. He labored to the bench and went out on the next shift. I thought there was a 15 min mandatory 'silent room' after a hit to the head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 I thought there was a 15 min mandatory 'silent room' after a hit to the head? Great point. WTF medical staff? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 Great point. WTF medical staff? esteef I have a feeling that we'll be seeing that ignored a lot this playoffs. And honestly i think it's a well-intended but possibly counterproductive rule. Knock a guy good in the head and you might take him off the ice for 15 minutes. For a 4th line player that may be a risk worth taking for his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 It was physics! No suspension! esteef +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 10, 2011 I have a feeling that we'll be seeing that ignored a lot this playoffs. And honestly i think it's a well-intended but possibly counterproductive rule. Knock a guy good in the head and you might take him off the ice for 15 minutes. For a 4th line player that may be a risk worth taking for his team. This situation is a good example. Abby, a non-top liner headshots Seabrook, (if called) Abby gets booted and their best shot from the point goes to the library til time runs out. Pretty good plan! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 Pronger physics IMO. No suspension. Either way I wouldn't be too torn up. Oh no, we have to use (at worst) Tatar or Mursak to take Abby's place? Oh noooooo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 According to the NHL Wheel of Justice, it's either a "Hockey Play", a 1 game suspension, or a 2 game suspension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 He had his elbow up and led with it, and he clocked Seabrook hard. That's worth a game or two, I place 50-50 odds on him missing Game 1. You in, Marty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 After watching a few times I'm starting to think his elbow was tucked against his side until contact is made. Because Seabrook pulled up he clipped him instead of making full contact and the momentum made his elbow follow through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Na, he was going for the shoulder, seabrook slowed down a bit and got it. how you going to suspend an accidental elbow. he got right back up as well. id be surprised if he did get suspended Edited April 11, 2011 by brett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 After watching a few times I'm starting to think his elbow was tucked against his side until contact is made. Because Seabrook pulled up he clipped him instead of making full contact and the momentum made his elbow follow through. Na, he was going for the shoulder, seabrook slowed down a bit and got it. how you going to suspend an accidental elbow. he got right back up as well. id be surprised if he did get suspended There was nothing accidental about the elbow, it wasn't a matter of his elbow coming up after contact; it was up before he hit. Watch the replay again; Seabrook's right shoulder and arm go between Abdelkader's arm and body. Whether he had intended to hit him with the elbow initially or stuck it out because of Seabrook's attempt to avoid, it doesn't matter. It's still elbowing, and a hit to the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 I don't remember a suspension, or even a call for this one. So I'm going to bet that nothing happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 Anyone hear if he got a suspension yet? When will it be announced? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 Anyone hear if he got a suspension yet? When will it be announced? I don't even think they finished their coffee yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 I would really be surprised if Abdelkader gets suspended from this. At most it deserved a 2-min penalty on the ice. There is no question in my mind that Abby will get something. It's almost identical to the elbow-to-face shot that Dany Heatley recently gave to Steve Ott in our (Sharks) game against Dallas. It was a sweet shot to watch against a notorious rat/agitator, but for that Heatley received a two game suspension and $80,645.16 fine. Watch here and see if you can see much of a difference: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=556324 There is a serious difference between what Heatley did and what Abdelkader did. Heatley had intent to go after Ott's head and try to injure him. The only reason that didn't happen is because Heatley missed his shot. The suspension to Heatley was light (2 games) purely because the result of the hit to the head was minor. The NHL shouldn't be basing their suspensions on the resultant injury anyways. But the Dany Heatley fully went after Ott's head with the intent to blind side him when he didn't have the puck to try and hurt him. Abdelkader was making a check and his elbow got up. Even if you want to argue that he had the intent to elbow him (which is speculative) at least Seabrook was prepared for the hit and both players were engaged in 'hockey play' and Seabrook had some what of a chance to defend himself. This hit was not from the blindside and no one can clearly, 100% say there was intent there. I'm not saying he won't be suspended, because this is the NHL we're talking about, but based on precedence I'd be surprised if Abdelkader's hit is even discussed again at the NHL offices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 Cool, so no Hank and now no Abby possibly? Albeit from me to say that maybe this is a case of the intent thing and all that but I have to say I am actually glad to see someone playing with the edge in this type of game. Again, Abby has been bringing an awful lot of that as of late and it translates in the wins for sure. Probably a game suspension here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 Any word yet? Anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 Any word yet? Anyone? Yeah I feel like if he was going to get something, they would have announced it that he has a hearing by now wouldnt they? Especially with playoffs coming up teams have to get heir s*** together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dregerreport/ He doesn't really talk about the suspension but he does mention the whole "quiet room" thing. I personally think he should just get 1 game. However, he has really come alive the last half of the season so I think him being out would be a big loss to this team. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 I love how it wasn't caught during the game but TSN was sure hard up to put it all blown up on the front page of their site. hahahaha "here league...the elbow you missed. we took the liberty of blowing up and putting it on our front page for you to see. MEAN OL RED WINGS" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 I love how it wasn't caught during the game but TSN was sure hard up to put it all blown up on the front page of their site. hahahaha "here league...the elbow you missed. we took the liberty of blowing up and putting it on our front page for you to see. MEAN OL RED WINGS" If you're talking about what's on TSN's NHL page now, that's actually a different hit by Homer. I do like how they say the Wings beating the Hawks "sent the Blackhawks to their TVs as cheerleaders." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/dregerreport/ He doesn't really talk about the suspension but he does mention the whole "quiet room" thing. I personally think he should just get 1 game. However, he has really come alive the last half of the season so I think him being out would be a big loss to this team. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get anything. Yeah he needs to be out there come playoff time hitting everything that moves. He has a pretty big role on this team as the go to physical guy on forward. Hes had Bertuzzi playing like his west coast express self too. If theyre missing him for 1 game they can manage but I dont wanna see him gone much more than that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted April 11, 2011 This will be forget with as the press will be focusing on the playoffs and matchups. Nothing will happen. It will be forgotten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 there's nothing i can see anywhere even talking about it, and chicago should have had a double-minor for high sticking right before that, so it's an even trade if you ask me. Seabrook is top 5 for favorite dmen in the league for me, and i like the hawks when they don't get a free ride from the refs against the wings, so i'm not biased....but it looked like seabrook did a little acting on the fall down after the hit. just saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest L3T5G0W1NG5 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 I think it's safe to say that he's not gonna get suspended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
