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[Chairman Maouth]

Correct. Please acknowledge this and avoid making pretentious statements.

I have to think that you just thought to yourself, "What is the most over-the-top ironic thing I can say" - and came up with that.

[haroldsnepsts]

It's not pain. It's suffering. There's a difference. The average person feels pain when something very saddening happens. What depression causes is a step beyond that.

Whatever man. Argue semantics if you want but I think we're basically saying the same thing.

cripes this thread has gotten s***ty in an unexpected way.


Back on topic, RIP Rick Rypien.

Edited by haroldsnepsts, 16 August 2011 - 04:17 PM.

[Chairman Maouth]

I never said you weren't well-adjusted or that holding in anger is a good thing. I find it to be misplaced in the case of depression. A few of the closest people in my life have battled depression their whole lives, and I also had a friend who ultimately took his life because he simply couldn't bear to live with it any longer.

Like you said, your feeling of anger is perhaps better described as bewilderment. I think that's a much better way of putting it. For me, the only sense of anger I can see regarding this situation would be if Rick had continuously tried to get help for his problem and the system kept failing him because we just don't have a handle on depression the way we'd all like up to this point.

I hear you Mac. And I do regret a little using the word "anger" straight up. It's more like a "WTF and why would you do this" kind of thing. I just don't understand choosing death over a pretty good life. But I guess the answer is in that seomewhere. For him, it wasn't a good life, but me having never been through it or close to someone who has - I just don't understand.

[NeverForgetMac25]

I hear you Mac. And I do regret a little using the word "anger" straight up. It's more like a "WTF and why would you do this" kind of thing. I just don't understand choosing death over a pretty good life. But I guess the answer is in that seomewhere. For him, it wasn't a good life, but me having never been through it or close to someone who has - I just don't understand.

In a sick way, be thankful that you nor anyone you're personally close to has been through it. It's brutally difficult and practically at all times there's nothing you can do to help.

I feel for Rick for having had to deal with this and for it to be so severe he simply couldn't live it any more.

[Chairman Maouth]

In a sick way, be thankful that you nor anyone you're personally close to has been through it. It's brutally difficult and practically at all times there's nothing you can do to help.

I feel for Rick for having had to deal with this and for it to be so severe he simply couldn't live it any more.

Absolutely.

[Crymson]

Whatever man. Argue semantics if you want but I think we're basically saying the same thing.

I'm not trying to argue semantics. I'm trying to make a distinction for the sake of those who know little of depression.

[Wingzman91]

The guy obviously had problems; he grabbed a fan in the crowd, rage issues at the very least.

I flamed him then for it, but now that seems petty.
It's hard to call for someone's head when they didn't have it themselves.
RIP Mr. Rypien.

[wings1110]

The guy obviously had problems; he grabbed a fan in the crowd, rage issues at the very least.

I flamed him then for it, but now that seems petty.
It's hard to call for someone's head when they didn't have it themselves.
RIP Mr. Rypien.

tbh that fan prolly deserved it.

[Chairman Maouth]

"For me he was so special because here I was this young kid and he was this guy who would take on the world for his teammates," said Schira, an Ottawa Senators prospect who played last season with Binghamton of the AHL. "I remember getting off to a slow start and was struggling with my confidence and he just took me under his wing. One game in particular I played well and he was the first one to come to me after and congratulate me. He was a guy I looked up to all year. Just the way he treated the young guys is something I've tried to bring to the teams I've played on. I'll never forget him for that."

Read more: http://www.vancouver...l#ixzz1VEq119Ok

[Chairman Maouth]

Couple of good brief interviews about Rypien on Vancouver radio today.

http://www.teamradio...-is-pouring-in/

Gillis There Is No Blueprint

Tanner Glass

Glass slips up here and there and talks of Rypien in the present tense. Kinda sad.

There is also apparently an interview with John Garret that's just taken place where he tells of Rypiens girlfriend when he was in junior hockey dying in a car accident. Apparently she was killed when she was on her way to see Rypien play. I had never heard that before. Can't confirm this yet though because I missed it and the stream isn't up yet.

Edited by Chairman Maouth, 16 August 2011 - 07:05 PM.

[esteef]

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[Chairman Maouth]

There is also apparently an interview with John Garret that's just taken place where he tells of Rypiens girlfriend when he was in junior hockey dying in a car accident. Apparently she was killed when she was on her way to see Rypien play. I had never heard that before. Can't confirm this yet though because I missed it and the stream isn't up yet.

Confirmed in an interview on Sportsnet Pacific. Rypien was playing junior with the Regina Pats.

Mac, that actually is something I can identify with.

Edited by Chairman Maouth, 16 August 2011 - 08:11 PM.

[Sprsquirt7]

Thought I was at the end of the thread, disreagard orignal statement, damn phone.

Edited by Sprsquirt7, 16 August 2011 - 09:06 PM.

[Barrie]

All in one calender year we've seen Probert, Rypien, and Boogaard die and Crosby's career maybe done, and still no mention by the NHL about eliminating head shots. Someone has to die on the ice before they do something.

I understand Rypien's death was due to depression, but getting punched in the head didn't help his situation.

[wings1110]

All in one calender year we've seen Probert, Rypien, and Boogaard die and Crosby's career maybe done, and still no mention by the NHL about eliminating head shots. Someone has to die on the ice before they do something.

I understand Rypien's death was due to depression, but getting punched in the head didn't help his situation.

its the players fault if there skating up the ice with their head down. and players that fight no the risk.

[sleepwalker]

tbh that fan prolly deserved it.

I know, right. And those innocent bystanders that get hit by stray bullets during drive-by shootings deserve it too, cause, like, why were they sitting on their porch like that just waiting around for bullets to hit them?


C'mon. We are all in shock Rick died, but be honest, that kid was just standing there clapping his hands and got attacked.

Edited by sleepwalker, 16 August 2011 - 10:06 PM.

[martyrme19]

wow - I never knew there were so many PhD's floating around on the LGW message boards. I'll come here for expert opinions on things people generally have no idea what they are talking about more often.

[Crymson]

I have to think that you just thought to yourself, "What is the most over-the-top ironic thing I can say" - and came up with that.

I have to think that you just thought to yourself, "What is the most over-the-top ironic thing I can say" - and came up with that.

[wings1110]

I know, right. And those innocent bystanders that get hit by stray bullets during drive-by shootings deserve it too, cause, like, why were they sitting on their porch like that just waiting around for bullets to hit them?


C'mon. We are all in shock Rick died, but be honest, that kid was just standing there clapping his hands and got attacked.

anyone that hangs anywhere near people that are shot in drive byes are usually scum. but you dont know what that fan said. maybe the refs shoulda let him fight somone on the ice then this wouldnt have happend, I blame the refs for ruining the fun.

anyone that hangs anywhere near people that are shot in drive byes are usually scum. but you dont know what that fan said. maybe the refs shoulda let him fight somone on the ice then this wouldnt have happend, I blame the refs for ruining the fun. and yea that guy was chirpin him.

[egroen]

I never said you weren't well-adjusted or that holding in anger is a good thing. I simply find it to be misplaced in the case of depression. A few of the closest people in my life have battled depression their whole lives, and I also had a friend who ultimately took his life because he simply couldn't bear to live with it any longer.

Like you said, your feeling of anger is perhaps better described as bewilderment. I think that's a much better way of putting it. For me, the only sense of anger I can see regarding this situation would be if Rick had continuously tried to get help for his depression and the system kept failing him because we just don't have a handle on depression the way we'd all like up to this point.

I have no problem with a loved one feeling anger over a suicide. If you are dependent on a person for emotional or financial support and they voluntarily end their life - how can you not feel anger over it? Depression is a disease like addiction, it can be fatal, but it is also curable.