nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Looks like hall to arizona , he’s always said he wants to go play for a hockey town so i can’t see him resigning ... looks like desperation from arizona to get in the playoffs done deal , arizona so desperate.... 1st and another conditional 1st bahl,merkley and another prospect Edited December 16, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Looks like hall to arizona , he’s always said he wants to go play for a hockey town so i can’t see him resigning ... looks like desperation from arizona to get in the playoffs A 1st AND a conditional 1st! Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 Ok. Misread that a bit. Its a conditional 3rd that turns into a 1st if Hall resigns and they win a playoff round. If only one of those conditions is fullfilled it becomes a 2nd. Think I got i right. Still a bit much. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Actually, soccer is the most diverse sport. Not surprising, because its literally the cheapest to play. And the NBA has exactly 0 women players. So much for diversity. Hockey is expensive. Equipment is expensive. You cant play it outdoors unless its winter time in a cold climate. Ice time indoors is expensive. The only ones who care about diversity in the NHL arent watching it anyway. Anyone who won't watch the NHL because it's "too white" is just as discriminatory as someone who won't watch the NBA because it's "too black". Soccer isn't a real sport thou. 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: People of color or of different ethnicities = poor people? Gotcha Well it's a hard truth, but it's true. Being POC doesn't automatically one poor, but at least in USA the average African-American or Hispanic-American household earns significantly less on average than a European-American household. So financially speaking it's easier for the average Euro-American family to play an expensive sport like hockey. Then of course there's Asian-American households who on average earn more than European-Americans... and they're not exactly flooding into the sport either. I think it's a combination of high-entry cost + hockey being a regional sport best enjoyed in the north. And in the north you always find more whites than POC. That's pretty much true globally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: A 1st AND a conditional 1st! Lol 13 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Ok. Misread that a bit. Its a conditional 3rd that turns into a 1st if Hall resigns and they win a playoff round. If only one of those conditions is fullfilled it becomes a 2nd. Think I got i right. Still a bit much. Can't believe Chiareli only got a 20 pt Dman for an under contract Hall, and Shero was able to get all that for an expiering contract older Hall I miss Chiareli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Can't believe Chiareli only got a 20 pt Dman for an under contract Hall, and Shero was able to get all that for an expiering contract older Hall I miss Chiareli Pistol Pete is a gem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 663 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 So if Arizona misses the playoffs, NJ gets two chances to win the lottery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, TLGTrico said: So if Arizona misses the playoffs, NJ gets two chances to win the lottery Haven’t seen anything about lottery protection so it appears so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, TLGTrico said: So if Arizona misses the playoffs, NJ gets two chances to win the lottery 1 minute ago, Akakabuto said: Haven’t seen anything about lottery protection so it appears so The standard first is lottery protected. If the picks end up top3 it slides to 2021. 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: People of color or of different ethnicities = poor people? Gotcha Hockey is an expensive sport to play. And Yes, poverty hits the black community harder than it does the white community. Nothing too radical about that. It would stand to reason then that finances would probably be a factor in determining what sports are more popular to certain socio-economic groups. The NHL invests a lot of money into its "Hockey is for Everyone" initiative. A program I strongly support. A large focus has been in growing the sport in the inner city. Why? Because these are the kids who can least afford the cost of playing hockey. Guess what the demographics of the inner city are? Largely non-white. Sorry if reality offends you. And, I was referring to soccer on a global scale. All u need is a ball to play. Even those in the poorest countries play it. Guess what? Most of the world is poor. Stands to reason they would play the sports that dont require the cost of equipment. Cheap sport + poor people = popular sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: The standard first is lottery protected. If the picks end up top3 it slides to 2021. Should have known. All 1st rounders are lottery protected nowadays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Hockey is an expensive sport to play. And Yes, poverty hits the black community harder than it does the white community. Nothing too radical about that. It would stand to reason then that finances would probably be a factor in determining what sports are more popular to certain socio-economic groups. The NHL invests a lot of money into its "Hockey is for Everyone" initiative. A program I strongly support. A large focus has been in growing the sport in the inner city. Why? Because these are the kids who can least afford the cost of playing hockey. Guess what the demographics of the inner city are? Largely non-white. Sorry if reality offends you. And, I was referring to soccer on a global scale. All u need is a ball to play. Even those in the poorest countries play it. Guess what? Most of the world is poor. Stands to reason they would play the sports that dont require the cost of equipment. Cheap sport + poor people = popular sport. NHL really does a good job when they move into a new city to try and grow the sport. They're not only building the new arena here in Seattle, but putting in like 5 rinks around the downtown area to grow the sport amongst the populace. They did this same strategy when they moved into Dallas. Seattle is like 90% white, but we're the exception not the norm for most cities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Ok. Misread that a bit. Its a conditional 3rd that turns into a 1st if Hall resigns and they win a playoff round. If only one of those conditions is fullfilled it becomes a 2nd. Think I got i right. Still a bit much. Yup , desperate as f*** to get in the playoffs and save the franchise haha , 2020 id a deep draft + bahl who might be on team canada , merkley and another prospect for hall who will likely leave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Yup , desperate as f*** to get in the playoffs and save the franchise haha , 2020 id a deep draft + bahl who might be on team canada , merkley and another prospect for hall who will likely leave Yeah this seems more like an attempt to become relevant than to actually contend. It’s not like Hall is the last piece to the puzzle in Arizona. If it’s not the last piece you shouldn’t pay that much. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 John Chayka Advanced stats and cap wiz Become youngest GM in NHL history at 26 Making 6 figures and running a whole pro organization in upscale Glendale Arizona Hang with pro athletes and literally cut their checks Marry fat cow who eats too much Wendy's Big red flag that you might be moran John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,770 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 55 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Yup , desperate as f*** to get in the playoffs and save the franchise haha , 2020 id a deep draft + bahl who might be on team canada , merkley and another prospect for hall who will likely leave Save the franchise? From what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Save the franchise? From what? Being #1 in the Pacific with attendance way up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, kipwinger said: Save the franchise? From what? Folding? I’ll admit i havent been watching and paying attention to arizona attendance but last i recall they been struggling with getting people in games since forever and im sure they wanna try and get in the playoffs to get people talking about the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,770 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Folding? I’ll admit i havent been watching and paying attention to arizona attendance but last i recall they been struggling with getting people in games since forever and im sure they wanna try and get in the playoffs to get people talking about the team Yeah, probably time for a new narrative. If the team hasn't "folded" in the 23 years it's been around previous to now, I'm guessing that's probably not the reason they traded for Hall. 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Yeah, probably time for a new narrative. If the team hasn't "folded" in the 23 years it's been around previous to now, I'm guessing that's probably not the reason they traded for Hall. Pretty sure they traded for hall to get the fanbase excited , get in the playoffs and get asses in the seats but whatever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,770 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Pretty sure they traded for hall to get the fanbase excited , get in the playoffs and get asses in the seats but whatever I agree with the first part, just not the second part. Trading for a star player and former MVP is always going to excite the fans no matter who trades for the player. But the Yotes are tied for 3rd in the Western Conference and will comfortably make the playoffs even without Hall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I agree with the first part, just not the second part. Trading for a star player and former MVP is always going to excite the fans no matter who trades for the player. But the Yotes are tied for 3rd in the Western Conference and will comfortably make the playoffs even without Hall. Comfortable? I dont know what standings your looking at but theres still plenty of time in the season and plenty of time for teams like the preds and sharks to catch up they were hardly guaranteed a playoff spot which explains the hall trade as well ... the top 8 teams are all within 6 points , but yes the mighty coyotes are already guaranteed a playoff spot with almost 50 games left , ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,770 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Comfortable? I dont know what standings your looking at but theres still plenty of time in the season and plenty of time for teams like the preds and sharks to catch up they were hardly guaranteed a playoff spot which explains the hall trade as well ... the top 8 teams are all within 6 points , but yes the mighty coyotes are already guaranteed a playoff spot with almost 50 games left , ok I'm looking at the standings that have the Coyotes comfortably in the playoffs. You know, the official league standings. Which standings are you looking at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I'm looking at the standings that have the Coyotes comfortably in the playoffs. You know, the official league standings. Which standings are you looking at? Im looking at the actual nhl standings not some fictional one in your mind where arizona makes the playoffs with 47 games left in the season because they have a 5 pt lead over the 9th seed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,770 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Im looking at the actual nhl standings not some fictional one in your mind where arizona makes the playoffs with 47 games left in the season because they have a 5 pt lead over the 9th seed You realize that even if you took the top 8 teams in the entire league, not just each conference, the Coyotes would still be tied for a playoff spot. Not trying to get your goat here man, but the "they did it to get into the playoffs" explaination for the Hall trade is just missing the mark. Edited December 17, 2019 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites