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#41 GoalieManPat

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:34 AM

I have a couple friends who are Tampa Bay Lightning fans. When the team was founded and horrible, he bought partial season tickets. Then, you could tell who the true hockey fans were. They were the people who showed up to games when no one else wanted to see the team. For years this was the case. Then, they started getting good, and the bandwagoners jumped on. The team won the cup and that was the height of their attendance. Shortly after they won the cup and started to decline, the bandwagoners left, and the true hockey fans were left again. Last year, the bandwagoners started jumping back on. During the time when the team sucked was the best time to go to a game and mingle with the true fans. If you tried to mingle with fans in the cup year or last year, it was a disaster. People were morons, saying certain teams sucked and they were critical of the team and players on it.


I don't think attendance pre playoff vs playoff is really the best way to determine if someone is a bandwagon fan. Especially with Florida teams. That state is bad with attendance in all sports just because there is so much other stuff to do. Some people just cant afford to go to very many games. For us an hour drive both ways, parking, ticket cost, food/drink, is hard to fit into the budget for one nights entertainment. Now for playoffs though we've been saving since the new year so we can go to a couple playoff games without worry of budget restraints. We choose the playoff games because they are more important. A team in the playoffs will always have higher attendance no just because its full of bandwagoners but because those true fans that have to be selective in what games they can attend will always pick playoffs. The rest of the season both me and my girlfriend (a lifelong Ranger fan that I converted to die hard wings fan) are watching every game on the couch and I would never consider us bandwagoner just because we can only make a game or two a year.

As for the original post. I dont think Chicago is as bad as people perceive it to be. Sure there are assholes but thats the same with every organization. Ive been to a game in Chicago. Wore my Wings garb and didnt have any issues. Sure some guys yell stuff but if that bothers you then you need thicker skin. I even had a guy knock my drink over as he walked down the stairs. Now he easily could have been a dick and said screw that wings fan (especially with him being a good bit drunk) but he was instantly apologetic and came back not only with a replacement drink for me but one for my girl as well. I didnt feel one bit unsafe the whole time. Ive gone to a US-Mexico World Cup qualifying game in Mexico City before. Chicago fans are choir boys compared to that.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:56 AM

All - I'm a lifelong Hawk fan and self-admitted LGW troll (like the guy who cruised over to the Hawk board). I've been watching the Hawks since I was 6 years old - 36 years now - and am by no means a bandwagoner. As a matter of fact, every true Hawk fan I know cannot stand the bandwagoners that hopped on around '07-ish. I usually ask one of these people if the name Alpo Suhonen means anything to them. I ALWAYS get a blank stare and consider them weeded out. That said, I and every other true Hawk fan I've spoken to has the utmost respect for the Red Wing organization. I mean, how can you really detest what they've done? My "hatred", if you can even call it, that is out of pure jealousy of what the Wings have accomplished and continue to accomplish over the past two decades. Add to the fact that I have NEVER seen the Wings show up other teams or showboat and I'd like to think the same about the Hawks (Vancouver, on the other had, is totally different story). Take my post for what it's worth - the real Hawk fans don't hate Wings at all and appreciate the rivalry.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:34 AM

All reasonable Hawks fans respect the Red Wings. The fact that you guys get so butthurt about a retarded Detroit Sucks chant just shows that it gets under your skin exactly as planned. You know why Chicago chants Detroit Sucks? Because the Wings kicked our asses for decades. It's a sign of respect whether you realize it or not.



Haha, thats great! You should work as a spin doctor for the politicians!

I like how you tried to spin that around and put it on us. Calling Detroit fans butthurt, when in actuality it is exactly the opposite, hence the reason that in Chicago they chant "Detroit sucks" at not only hockey games, but other events now as well. Chicago "fans" define butthurt. Not to mention, I have not seen all this "butthurt" by Detroit fans that you describe. Unless you consider pointing out how retarded it is, and how butthurt it makes THEM look, to chant "Detroit sucks" at games that have nothing to do with Detroit and events that have nothing to do with hockey.

I also think the "respect" angle is cute too. Thats like me saying you are a retarded c*** or something, and then trying to say "oh, I meant that as a sign of respect" LOL

Edited by sleepwalker, 23 March 2012 - 11:37 AM.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:05 PM

All reasonable Hawks fans respect the Red Wings. The fact that you guys get so butthurt about a retarded Detroit Sucks chant just shows that it gets under your skin exactly as planned. You know why Chicago chants Detroit Sucks? Because the Wings kicked our asses for decades. It's a sign of respect whether you realize it or not.

Oh sure. I'll bet if you ask the fans at the United Center why they chant "Detroit Sucks", almost all of them will tell you "It's out of respect." :rolleyes:

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:44 PM

Alpo Suhonen, hired by Mike Smith. I think because he produced wonderful French plays. Sucked as a coach tho.

Listen if you guys really can't understand why "Detroit Sucks!" is a complement than you must be a little concussed. I've seen the Hulls and Mikita play Howe at the old Stadium. I've a Hawks fan a LONG time. I've seen Detroit really did suck. Back when you couldn't get anybody to go to a game in Detroit. The same as it got in Chicago at the end of Dollar Bill Wirtz's mismanagement.Its just that the bandwagoners in Detroit have been around a little longer than the ones in Chicago. Only because Detroit's recent success has been going on for 10 yrs longer than the Hawks most recent success.

I understood Packer fans chanting "The Bears still suck" even when the Bears kicking their butts. I really can't understand how Wing's fans don't get it.

#46 T.Low

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

Listen if you guys really can't understand why "Detroit Sucks!" is a complement ...I really can't understand how Wing's fans don't get it.





I totally get it.

I'll use the anology of a Harley riding, steroid pumping, super badass buddy of mine. He's one of the toughest guys I know and likes to work as a bouncer at strip clubs so he can get paid to kick people's asses. However, there is this one Asian guy who is kinda big (but not as big as the Harley guy) and a mixed martial arts instructor of some sort. My buddy says he will not ever fight the guy, he will just sit in his monster truck and yell things at him. That is akin to Chicago always chanting Detroit Sucks.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:12 PM

I totally get it.

I'll use the anology of a Harley riding, steroid pumping, super badass buddy of mine. He's one of the toughest guys I know and likes to work as a bouncer at strip clubs so he can get paid to kick people's asses. However, there is this one Asian guy who is kinda big (but not as big as the Harley guy) and a mixed martial arts instructor of some sort. My buddy says he will not ever fight the guy, he will just sit in his monster truck and yell things at him. That is akin to Chicago always chanting Detroit Sucks.


I know this risks a spontaneous singing of Kumbaya but.....

As a Hawks fan I absolutely look forward to Hawks/Wings games. And the Hawks winning. Because they are usually good skilled hockey games. I completely respect the players and organIzation. Except maybe the occasional Bertuzzi. But even he has some skill. Nothing better than the Hawks beating the Wings.

Except Vancouver. But for a different reason. Myself and every Hawks fan I know absolutely loathes that team, its players, coach and GM, the fans and everything else about them. Every cheap, dirty, whining, hair pulling, clipping, groin kneeling one of them.

Cheers.

Edited by hudson, 23 March 2012 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:57 PM

Haha, thats great! You should work as a spin doctor for the politicians!

I like how you tried to spin that around and put it on us. Calling Detroit fans butthurt, when in actuality it is exactly the opposite, hence the reason that in Chicago they chant "Detroit sucks" at not only hockey games, but other events now as well. Chicago "fans" define butthurt. Not to mention, I have not seen all this "butthurt" by Detroit fans that you describe. Unless you consider pointing out how retarded it is, and how butthurt it makes THEM look, to chant "Detroit sucks" at games that have nothing to do with Detroit and events that have nothing to do with hockey.

I also think the "respect" angle is cute too. Thats like me saying you are a retarded c*** or something, and then trying to say "oh, I meant that as a sign of respect" LOL


Read the thread. How many butthurt Wings fans were in here crying about the Detroit Sucks chant before I said anything? I'm just pointing out that it's silly and pointless and it only started because of how good Detroit has been for a long time. The reason there is no "Blues Suck" chant (when they actually do suck) is because they weren't worth worrying about until now. Do you really believe that Hawks fans actually think that the Detroit Red Wings "suck" at anything related to professional hockey? Use your head.


"Thats like me saying you are a retarded c*** or something, and then trying to say "oh, I meant that as a sign of respect"

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing. LOL. And NO you're not butthurt at all. Nope, not one bit. I can see that clearly.

You: "Dem bad Hawks fans say mean stuff about my wings!!!!!! WAAAAH!!!!!!!"

CRY MOAR! We love it.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:07 PM

All - I'm a lifelong Hawk fan and self-admitted LGW troll (like the guy who cruised over to the Hawk board). I've been watching the Hawks since I was 6 years old - 36 years now - and am by no means a bandwagoner. As a matter of fact, every true Hawk fan I know cannot stand the bandwagoners that hopped on around '07-ish. I usually ask one of these people if the name Alpo Suhonen means anything to them. I ALWAYS get a blank stare and consider them weeded out. That said, I and every other true Hawk fan I've spoken to has the utmost respect for the Red Wing organization. I mean, how can you really detest what they've done? My "hatred", if you can even call it, that is out of pure jealousy of what the Wings have accomplished and continue to accomplish over the past two decades. Add to the fact that I have NEVER seen the Wings show up other teams or showboat and I'd like to think the same about the Hawks (Vancouver, on the other had, is totally different story). Take my post for what it's worth - the real Hawk fans don't hate Wings at all and appreciate the rivalry.

even worse than your method of weeding out bandwagon hawks fans was something I did in last year's playoffs to my friends who jumped on the vancouver bandwagon. I live in canada and as soon as the canucks made conference finals EVERYONE was a "lifelong nucks fan." I just asked them who Pavel Bure was and boom - nobody knew. Thats the definition of true bandwagon.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:41 PM

Anyone that results to chanting your city sucks... is a total douchebag in my opinion.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

The Tank is doing quite well proving the answer is a resounding "no".
 
 
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 10:10 PM

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing. LOL. And NO you're not butthurt at all. Nope, not one bit. I can see that clearly.

You: "Dem bad Hawks fans say mean stuff about my wings!!!!!! WAAAAH!!!!!!!"

CRY MOAR! We love it.




Yes, you are correct, I am the butthurt one here. You are definitely not acting like a butthurt emotional wreck at all. Nope, not at all. We can see that from your quote here.









PS- I see that you deleted the comment that you posted below this one. Whats the matter Franky, didn't want anyone to see your brilliant retort? lol

Edited by sleepwalker, 24 March 2012 - 02:24 PM.






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