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WCQF Game Three GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 2

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I'm just afraid Babcock will be the casualty before any of the big changes they need to make.

I highly doubt anything happens to Babcock for the remainder of his contract. After this season, he's got two years left to prove he hasn't grown stale with the team.

Unfortunately, when the unthinkable happens with Lidstrom, our team's going to change in a big way anyways.

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Yeah I think a lot more needs to be done than just letting Hudler go and Holmstrom retire, and promoting Nyquist. Things really need to get shaken up, as in a big name getting dealt to let the rest know that we're not gonna settle for making the playoffs and choking in the 1st/2nd round every year. I'm not calling for a fire sale, but changes need to be made.

Zetterberg and Datsyuk are the only reason we're not down 3-0 in the series, so I think they are safe. If Franzen was dealt in the off-season, that'd be great. Shake things up, we need to hungrier. The Wings don't have many guys who compete for 60 minutes. Dano's been the most physical guy for us in the series and he's on one ******* leg, that's inexcusable. I also don't think Babs is the problem, after the way he reacted after Berts fight in Game 2 I know he could really get more out of a team that competes harder and is harder to play against.

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Miller smarten up

I haven't read all the posts but I heard on the radio that some fans were ripping on Jimmy. For me, there's only one guy to rip and that's Miller. How stupid does he have to be. This is another example of the players not ready mentally to play. I would bench him for the next game because his blunder led to the first goal. This was unacceptable and must not be tolerated. Milller had plenty of time to slow down or veer away. Absolutely ludicrous.

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I am going to hold all my comments until one of two things happen, they lose or they win...just so I am not accused of flying off the handle and typing irrationally or Heaven forbid, be accused of not being a Red Wings fan...

I believe it is because I am such a huge fan of this organization is why I call out the players I feel don't belong on this historic and proud team. But like I said, I do tend to sometimes get the "what have you done for me lately" attitude when I type during and after a game, so I will watch, hope, and pray they win it all. Meanwhile I do look in here once in a bit, and today I have noticed a lot of disgust and unfavorable positions when it comes to (Playoff)Franzen. I know everyone believed he wold turn the switch and re-appear back from 2008. He still has time, but it is quickly running out...

Go Red Wings!

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I am going to hold all my comments until one of two things happen, they lose or they win...just so I am not accused of flying off the handle and typing irrationally or Heaven forbid, be accused of not being a Red Wings fan...

I believe it is because I am such a huge fan of this organization is why I call out the players I feel don't belong on this historic and proud team. But like I said, I do tend to sometimes get the "what have you done for me lately" attitude when I type during and after a game, so I will watch, hope, and pray they win it all. Meanwhile I do look in here once in a bit, and today I have noticed a lot of disgust and unfavorable positions when it comes to (Playoff)Franzen. I know everyone believed he wold turn the switch and re-appear back from 2008. He still has time, but it is quickly running out...

Go Red Wings!

Remember Franzen has been a great playoff contributor since 2008. Last season was an aberration as far as that was concerned. This season isn't really looking good on anyone either, so I can't exactly say I'm surprised.

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Zetterberg and Datsyuk are the only reason we're not down 3-0 in the series, so I think they are safe. If Franzen was dealt in the off-season, that'd be great. Shake things up, we need to hungrier. The Wings don't have many guys who compete for 60 minutes. Dano's been the most physical guy for us in the series and he's on one ******* leg, that's inexcusable. I also don't think Babs is the problem, after the way he reacted after Berts fight in Game 2 I know he could really get more out of a team that competes harder and is harder to play against.

There are plenty of guys that will be available this summer that will make us harder to play against that won't be a liability, and I hope Holland realized that a few of those types of players would be nice seeing how Z got treated by Weber. Franzen needs to show up, this is his time of year, and there are better options out there if he doesn't produce in the playoffs. He hasn't been completely invisible, but he hasn't been a difference maker.

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If he is let go I will lose complete faith in Holland.

There are no real options available and Babcock, while partial to certain players at times, is a damn fine coach.

You mean the last two offseasons and trading deadlines didn't make you lose any faith in Holland?

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You mean the last two offseasons and trading deadlines didn't make you lose any faith in Holland?

Amen!

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Was today the first time they used the glow wands? I don't remember seeing them anywhere before.

YES! I've been to nearly every playoff opener the past 10 years. This is the first I've seen them.

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YES! I've been to nearly every playoff opener the past 10 years. This is the first I've seen them.

I'm so jealous. Never been to a Wings home game, let alone a Wings playoff game.

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I'm so jealous. Never been a Wings home game, let alone a Wings playoff game.

Me neither.

I never got to see Yzerman play. Same with Lidstrom probably. :(

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Same here. Live too far from Detroit to get out to any games.

Just got back home from the Joe tonight.The pregame light show was amazing,best part of the afternoon unfortunately.

We also managed to get passes to the Alumni Club,where we met Bud Lynch,Nick Libett and Eddy Mio.

Pretty cool for an old time wing fan. Just wished the team started on time for a better result.

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Just got back home from the Joe tonight.The pregame light show was amazing,best part of the afternoon unfortunately.

We also managed to get passes to the Alumni Club,where we met Bud Lynch,Nick Libett and Eddy Mio.

Pretty cool for an old time wing fan. Just wished the team started on time for a better result.

Maybe they did start on time, problem was the game didn't start till half an hour later.

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If he is let go I will lose complete faith in Holland.

There are no real options available and Babcock, while partial to certain players at times, is a damn fine coach.

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I was at the game today and I thought the Wings really deserved to win, but the refs thought otherwise.

- Franzen is terrible... he has zero effort, takes stupid penalties now and just does not deserve to play with pavel datsyuk ever... babs NEEDS to change the lines heading into next game because it is a must win game

- I thought the Wings really picked it up when Babs put White back with Lidstrom... I have always disliiked babs breaking them up so he better keep them together

- Time for Pavel and Z to play together I am tired of Franzen

- Our powerplay simply has to get better

One final thing, I was REALLY disappointed that there was no towels at the game!! I am going to game 4 tuesday so there better be towels! GO WINGS

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1334540256[/url]' post='2288516']

I was at the game today and I thought the Wings really deserved to win, but the refs thought otherwise.

- Franzen is terrible... he has zero effort, takes stupid penalties now and just does not deserve to play with pavel datsyuk ever... babs NEEDS to change the lines heading into next game because it is a must win game

- I thought the Wings really picked it up when Babs put White back with Lidstrom... I have always disliiked babs breaking them up so he better keep them together

- Time for Pavel and Z to play together I am tired of Franzen

- Our powerplay simply has to get better

One final thing, I was REALLY disappointed that there was no towels at the game!! I am going to game 4 tuesday so there better be towels! GO WINGS

We want moar notes from ALL of you who go these games. THANKS.

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I know the start on time theme has been discussed frequently and rightfully so. While I would be thrilled with a full 60 minute effort, I also believe the Red Wings lack of engagement in games is due to the officiating so far. Game 1 was a disaster and today the Red Wings were killing penalties most of the first and half of the second including the 5-on-3. Once the refs laid off, the Red Wings took over the game but by then the hole was already 2-0.

The more even strength play this series sees, the more it swings in Detroit's favor. The PK has been really good, but on the ice too much and it disrupts any momentum.

I hate to blame it on the refs because Nashville came out more ready to play, but having so much time on the powerplay certainly enhanced their ability to establish a lead.

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Wings played really, really good...but still can't knock that puck into those open nets. Need more net presence but they're making progress.

I'm really, really tired of playing good not resulting in wins, though. Really tired of it. I'm tired of having to say "bad bounces" and that garbage.

And Franzen had a great game. He scored a goal a tenth of a second too late, you can't fault him for that. He's letting Nashville rattle him way too much, but maybe that's what he needs to play with a chip on his shoulder.

Does anyone really seem their normal selves this series?

I honestly feel like the Wings are stuck in a haze for some reason and just cannot bring themselves to bring a competitive team to the table for a full 60 minutes. It is incredibly frustrating, and the worst part of it is I don't even know if Holland will make the necessary changes over the offseason. Even if the Wings make it past this round, it is clear things need to change.

I think part of it is playing Nashville. None of these games have been all that exciting, and I bet it's hard for the players to get up for playing Nashville and stay focused, at least one some level.

Datsyuk, Zetterberg and White have been great. Franzen hasn't been 100% but he hasn't been bad. Everyone else has been pretty...meh. Including Howard in Game 3. Flip to me is probably the biggest disappointment. Every time he has the puck he takes it along the half boards and loses it or takes a weak perimeter shot. They had it figured out in the 3rd period, if they can keep that up and score first they'll be fine.

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After that ludicrous display today, the lines Tuesday should be

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Nyquist

Franzen-Filpulla-Bertuzzi

Miller-Emmerton-Hudler

Holmstrom-Abdelkader-Sheahan

Lidstrom-White

Ericsson-Kronwall

Stuart-Quincey

Cleary is just too slow for this type of play, and if franzen doesn't watch it, he needs to be sat, he is just not competitive for the pace they are playing. This is where missing helm really hurts.

And just for those who have been saying that Sheahan is unavailable, (Crymson of course, because he knows all about the game) here is my source. It may not be accurate, but the source nonetheless

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012204120604

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I agree with most of your posts however Cleary has been fantastic this series and I saw live today that he is flying out there providing energy and a good forecheck. He stays where he is.

Datsyuk-Hank-Homer

Franzen-Fil-Hudler

Cleary-Abs-Bert

Miller-Emmerton-Nyqyust

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