GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Not that Columbus would have ever traded him to the Red Wings, but that asking price is nothing really. Howson got destroyed again. The Rangers are the best team in the NHL as of right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 rags are now best team in the league imo. they have it all: goaltending, offence, d. so strong everywhere. dubinsky is a s***ty version of callahan - expendable. they have 3 first lines now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 I think Columbus got the better of the deal personally. The best part is that now people will have to stop making excuses for Nash when he still manages to put up less than 80 pts a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Kuklas' Korner Red Wings blogger George Malik provides some valuable insight to Wings fans. For the most part, I think everyone here seems to get the point. But I'm waiting for someone to see the trade return, and get pissed because Kenny "sat on his ass/hands" and/or "didn't offer enough"... Remember, Red Wings fans, it wasn't that the Wings didn't make a comparable/better offer. Columbus said "no" to trading Nash to DET. It wasn't that Kenny Holland didn't make a fine offer. It was that Columbus turned down trading its superstar to their "archrival." And Kenny even confirms it, via Helene St. James... Red Wings GM Ken Holland: "I talked to Scott Howson a number of times, we did make an offer for Rick Nash." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Kuklas' Korner Red Wings blogger George Malik provides some valuable insight to Wings fans. For the most part, I think everyone here seems to get the point. But I'm waiting for someone to see the trade return, and get pissed because Kenny didn't offer enough... Ya we know... Howson would rather tank his team than play rick nash 6 times a season on a depleted wings lineup. what a dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Wow.....had Detroit been in the East with a realignment we'd have him for a ton less that what we had to offer up to even get the attention of Howson this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Oh man, NYR really got a good deal. Good for them. If I'm a Jackets fan though, trading Nash for these players is 100 times worse than trading him to Detroit. I'd be pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 rags are now best team in the league imo. they have it all: goaltending, offence, d. so strong everywhere. dubinsky is a s***ty version of callahan - expendable. they have 3 first lines now. They have a great 1st line, but after that I think their quality drops off significantly at least at forward, their D-corps is very strong as is their goalie though. I think their offense is tied to how well Nash performs there. Nash - Richards - Gaborik Hagelin - Boyle - Callahan Pyatt - Kreider - Rupp Haley - Stepan - Asham Halpern Staal - Girardi McDonagh - Sauer Bickel - Del Zotto Lundqvist Biron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Wow.....had Detroit been in the East with a realignment we'd have him for a ton less that what we had to offer up to even get the attention of Howson this year. Wouldn't have mattered. The proposed realignment still had Detroit in the same conference as the Jackets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Bobby, on the other hand, is a possibility. If he moves somewhere other than here, I'll start getting irritated. I'll die a little inside, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Gaborik - Richards - Nash Kreider - Stepan - Callahan Hagelin - Boyle - Rupp Pyatt - Halpern - Asham Haley First 2 lines are pretty solid if Kreider is what we think he is. Also JT Miller could come up this season possibly. Edited July 23, 2012 by dirtydangles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 That is a relief! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Holland should be calling Bob Murray, right about... ...now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Wouldn't have mattered. The proposed realignment still had Detroit in the same conference as the Jackets. Good point, forgot about that among the multiple scenarios that were tossed around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Does it really matter for Columbus seeing Nash six times per year if they could have gotten a better offer? It's not like they would be directly competing with the Red Wings anytime soon. I guess I just don't understand the logic. The Red Wings could have easily matched or bettered this deal with the Rangers. Then again, this is why Columbus has never won a playoff game. 1 Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Get Ryan. Get him now. 2 Rick D and Cloune reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Wow. What the heck is Columbus doing? So, their three best forwards are now Derrick Brassard, R.J. Umberger, and Brandon Dubinsky. Yeah, that'll sell tickets. I understand why they might not want to trade Nash to US, but why even trade him at all if you can't get an elite prospect out of the deal? Dubinsky has a 4.2 million cap hit for the next three years - that's the type of garbage you overpay for no reason other than to get to the salary floor. 2 crispychris and zetsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) well for one thing - we got worse this offseason but NSH and CBJ got a lot worse than we did... divisionally we won't have to worry about being in the bottom 2. Edited July 23, 2012 by dirtydangles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 well for one thing - we got worse this offseason but NSH and Preds got a lot worse than we did... divisionally we won't have to worry about being in the bottom 2. Love it, we get better by other teams sucking worse! esteef 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Love it, we get better by other teams sucking worse! Right on! Our defense doesn't look nearly as bad as Nashville's once Weber is Flying, and our goal scoring won't seem so bad when the Jackets don't break 100 as a team. It's all relative! Just hand the Blues the Central now .... esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Get Ryan. Get him now. And Dan Girardi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Question for the people who think Howson didn't get enough in return. When was the last time someone was traded for a better package than this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Rick Nash scores about 32 goals per game and gets about 65 points per season on average. The players that Howson got are younger and have some great upswing to them all. Will any of them be a Rick Nash powerhouse player? Its unknown. Anisimov is still not in his prime and Dubinsky is younger but has had a 50 point season. Plus, they get a promising young defender AND a 1st round pick. I don't know if Howson got fleeced, but he could have gotten a little more. 2 Jocke and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BostonBruinsDan1924 53 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Nash just signed for 6 years. http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Rick Nash scores about 32 goals per game really? Amazing that he has never reached 50 in a season then. Nash just signed for 6 years. http://www.capgeek.c...rts.php?Team=22 No he didn't, that is his contract he had with Columbus, he didn't sign any new deals and can't for another 5 years. You don't get to sign a new deal just because you were traded. 1 Rebound reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
