Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted December 17, 2012 Again I ask "Why not?" Al these forwards we have is compromising the development of or prospects as they are not afforded opportunities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 17, 2012 Again I ask "Why not?" Because there isn't the faintest chance that he'll make the roster, and he refuses to play in the AHL. Is that enough for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted December 17, 2012 Al these forwards we have is compromising the development of or prospects as they are not afforded opportunities I respectfully couldnt disagree more. Worst case scenario hes the same player he was in Edmonton and you say goodbye. Best case scenario he puts up 70 points with Z and Brunner and we got a top 6 forward in a steal. You cant have too much talent. Because there isn't the faintest chance that he'll make the roster, and he refuses to play in the AHL. Is that enough for you? If he doesnt make the roster and you havent given up much to get him whats the problem? You havent really lost anything and you took a shot at a guy with first round offensive talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 17, 2012 If he doesnt make the roster and you havent given up much to get him whats the problem? You havent really lost anything and you took a shot at a guy with first round offensive talent. If he were coming to the team on a tryout, it would be a different story. But that's not the case. This is a guy whom assets would need to be given for, a guy who would then be under contract, a guy whom our new associate coach has a low opinion of, a guy who has a bad attitude, a guy who refuses to pay his dues in the AHL, a guy who took to Twitter to ask the Oilers for a trade because they weren't playing him in the NHL. No thanks. A tryout contract is a no-lose scenario (unless the guy busts up one of your regulars in practice). A trade is an entirely different matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted December 17, 2012 I think omark is still a more valuable prospect than Emmerton 1 Cloune reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted December 17, 2012 Unless he is a power forward who can kick ass, the Wings don't need yet another forward He'd probably be a power-forward on our roster. OH YES I DID 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted December 17, 2012 I think omark is still a more valuable prospect than Emmerton I agree, because Emmerton isn't a prospect anymore. He's a regular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted December 17, 2012 Holland will pick up a big 4th line centre soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,343 Report post Posted December 24, 2012 Just for the chemistry they are sharing alone i'd give him a shot. I think putting them together on a line to begin the season after all this playtime they have had together would be a nice early boost to the year considering how many rusty lines we'd be facing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted December 28, 2012 He didn't make the Edmonton Oilers... THE OILERS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted December 28, 2012 He didn't make the Edmonton Oilers... THE OILERS Ha ha ha! This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where they go to India. "I mean, the plague!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 28, 2012 I'd rather see us going after a defenseman. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 CBC Sports posted this today on their rundown of notable free agents: Omark: Perhaps Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland will come calling after his Edmonton counterpart Steve Tambellini was unsuccessful in moving the 25-year-old left-winger over the summer. Omark finished third in Swiss league scoring with 13 goals and 46 points in 34 games, and clicked with Red Wings teammates Henrik Zetterberg and Damien Brunner on EV Zug’s top line during the lockout. Is there anything to this? It could be worth exploring given the Zetterburg/Brunner chemistry already established. Kenny could plug in a piece that already clicks, which is huge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedWingsDad Report post Posted January 25, 2013 If Filppula is traded for a D piece, we could replace his soft euro position with Omark, and for considerably less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 If Filppula is traded for a D piece, we could replace his soft euro position with Omark, and for considerably less. If you called Franzen a soft Euro, I'd agree with you. But Filppula is not soft. He plays hard and busts his ass every shift. He is a very good 3rd line center that the Wings have to sometimes use on a 2nd line, because they don't have anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedWingsDad Report post Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) If you called Franzen a soft Euro, I'd agree with you. But Filppula is not soft. He plays hard and busts his ass every shift. He is a very good 3rd line center that the Wings have to sometimes use on a 2nd line, because they don't have anyone else. I think we have different definitions of soft. I am not referring to effort or effectiveness, but rather his grit, tenacity, gusto, strength on the puck. Heck, it's a joke between me and my wife how easily Filppula falls down all the time (somewhere a bunny sneezed, and Filppula fell down!), though he seemed to get a hare better in that area towards the end of last season. Edited January 25, 2013 by RedWingsDad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 Franzen-datsyuk-filppula Brunner-Zetterberg-omark Samuelsson-helm-Cleary Tootoo-abdelkader-bertuzzi Datsyuk can make the streaky franzen better The second line could potentially have insane chemistry Hard working 3rd line Mean and tough fourth line that can score 2nd line would be the 2 kids and a goat line part 2! I like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 25, 2013 If you called Franzen a soft Euro, I'd agree with you. But Filppula is not soft. He plays hard and busts his ass every shift. He is a very good 3rd line center that the Wings have to sometimes use on a 2nd line, because they don't have anyone else. Agreed. Hes a bargain right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Filpulla a 3rd line center? lol You do know he scored the 12th most points for a center last year right? I guess Brad Richards, Couture, Krejci, Weiss and Getzlaf are 3rd line centers too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Since they already have an arena - Kansas City Kupcakes! Portland Pillows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Filpulla a 3rd line center? lol You do know he scored the 12th most points for a center last year right? I guess Brad Richards, Couture, Krejci, Weiss and Getzlaf are 3rd line centers too. And you know he did the vast majority of that playing on Zetterberg's wing last year right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 And you know he did the vast majority of that playing on Zetterberg's wing last year right? Fair enough, still .82 PPG still puts him well within the top 50 for forwards, quite clear his is a legitimate top 6 player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Fair enough, still .82 PPG still puts him well within the top 50 for forwards, quite clear his is a legitimate top 6 player. Considering that there are 90 first liners in the NHL, that's pretty good for a top 6 player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 26, 2013 Franzen-datsyuk-filppula Brunner-Zetterberg-omark Samuelsson-helm-Cleary Tootoo-abdelkader-bertuzzi Datsyuk can make the streaky franzen better The second line could potentially have insane chemistry Hard working 3rd line Mean and tough fourth line that can score 2nd line would be the 2 kids and a goat line part 2! I like. I can appreciate your thought process on this, but I think you are missing one very important element: go back and look at the highlights of BZO in the Swiss Cheese league; you'll be hardpressed to see one hit on them, let alone any real contact whatsoever. Zetterberg would simply have too much puck responsiblity with both Brunner and Omark on his line. I really like Bert in the top 6. Granted he was never the quickest guy in the league, and now he's even lost a step from that, but he is still a great (and effective) combination of size, strength, instincts, vision, hands, and grit. He can play outside the circles, behind the net, or in front of the crease. You don't lose anythng defensively like you would by adding Omark. Then add to the equation Bertuzzi's years of experience in the league vs Omark's steep learning curve. Omark may have a spot on another grit heavy underskilled team (is Radulov playing with Nashville again this year?) but he would greatly unbalance the Wings. We need to find a young Zach Kassian type like Gillis traded Cory Hodgson to Buffalo for. That guy is going to be the DIet Coke of Bertuzzi in his prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted February 18, 2014 Glad this didn't happen, looks like he'll end up back in Europe. Refusing AHL assignment with BUFFALO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites