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#181 uk_redwing

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:15 PM

Kuba had a terrible season. No surprise.

 

And to think Holland tried so hard to sign him...


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:24 PM

 
And to think Holland tried so hard to sign him...

Shhh..we have to hope he doesn't hear about Kuba's buyout. I don't think our team can get much softer.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:25 PM

Shhh..we have to hope he doesn't hear about Kuba's buyout. I don't think our team can get much softer.

 

In with Weiss and Kuba, out with Tootoo :ninja:


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:26 PM

 
In with Weiss and Kuba, out with Tootoo :ninja:

At that point, we're just about as soft as the '05-06 team.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:31 PM

Shhh..we have to hope he doesn't hear about Kuba's buyout. I don't think our team can get much softer.


mods better delete the post so he doesn't get any ideas. He looks here to make moves he knows LGW won't like.. right?

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:54 PM

mods better delete the post so he doesn't get any ideas. He looks here to make moves he knows LGW won't like.. right?

True. Message sent to Matt.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:30 PM

Too bad we have such a logjam of forwards. Can't wait until next offseason when we see Sammy, Bert, and hopefully Cleary off the books. 

 

I get the feeling we won't see any new UFA forwards in Detroit for quite some time unless they are absolute STEALS. We have so many kids playing great in GR that continue to push for spots. Assuming Tatar, Nyquist are up next year we STILL have Sheahan, Ferraro, Jurco, Jarnkrok, and Pulks all knocking on the door just to name the obvious ones. We won't have THAT many roster spots opening up due to free agency in the next couple years so I expect some sort of trade at some point. 

 

I actually wouldn't mind Holland letting Sammy ride pine all year and then use our second amnesty buyout on Franzen at the end of the season (if he continues with his laziness). We would be far better off without that long term deal haunting us in the future.  



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:15 PM

Aside from money why would sammy push to avoid the buyout when management and likely coaches wants him gone? Its pretty obvious he is preventing the team from moving forward with his actions. He has to know he is just being a huge pain in the ass.

 

 

A sore pectoral muscle should not even be allowed to be used as an excuse to not be bought out. What a weasel

Agreed,but this is his second stint with the Wings and it's not like he won the contract via arbitration.Ken and co. signed him despite knowing he only cares about the money.

 

Anyway,I think he's still a top 6 material...for the Griffins



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:27 PM

 
 
Agreed,but this is his second stint with the Wings and it's not like he won the contract via arbitration.Ken and co. signed him despite knowing he only cares about the money.
 
Anyway,I think he's still a top 6 material...for the Griffins


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:53 PM

Should the Wings go after Ribeiro ?


Edited by darkmanx, 03 July 2013 - 07:53 PM.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:03 PM

Should the Wings go after Ribeiro ?


Hell no. And you better not change your be a pro name to him. Cleary was funny...Ribeiro is disgraceful.

This offseason will determine whether Ken Holland should still be employed with the Wings organization.

 

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:19 PM

Wings should sign DiPietro to league minimum for 5 years and trade Howard to Buffalo for Vanek. Between DiPietro and Mrazek, one goalie will prosper.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:22 PM

Wings should sign DiPietro to league minimum for 5 years and trade Howard to Buffalo for Vanek. Between DiPietro and Mrazek, one goalie will prosper.

 

Are you high ?


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:24 PM

Wings should sign DiPietro to league minimum for 5 years and trade Howard to Buffalo for Vanek. Between DiPietro and Mrazek, one goalie will prosper.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:04 AM

And emdog will be second line center

 

Are you kidding? He'll be the team's power play QB.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 03:50 AM

Are you kidding? He'll be the team's power play QB.




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Posted 04 July 2013 - 04:15 AM

Should the Wings go after Ribeiro ?

 

Guy is a disgrace to the game with a bad lockerroom attitude he wouldn't fit in well.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:40 AM

Here's my take on things.

 

Sammy and Tootoo need to stay.

 

Why?  Glad you asked.  If you know me, you know that I loves me some Sammy and Tootoo, but I'm not taking my personal feelings into account. 

 

Here's my reasoning on Sammy.  He will not be "better" until after the amnesty buyout window closes.  Therefore there are three options.

 

1)  Trade. 

No good there.  Who'd take him?

 

2)  Regular buyout. 

Better, but he'd count against the cap.

 

3)  LTIR.

He wouldn't be taking up a roster space.  We could exceed the cap by the amount of his contract for the purposes of replacing him (which is as close as we can come to having him not count against the cap considering that the GR guys are making less).<--- unless the new CBA states differently.

 

Here's why we need Tootoo.

1)  We need someone to punch Sammy in the chest daily to make darn sure that he stays on LTIR so Tatar can stay up with the big boys where he belongs.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 08:10 AM

Its not that bad to wait one year with the amnesty if we can't get any good  UFAs and Sammy rides pine all year. The reason is that we can evaluate Franzen this year and see if he is going to be worth his contract into the future - if he is we can use the buyout on Tootoo if need be. 



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 08:26 AM

Its not that bad to wait one year with the amnesty if we can't get any good  UFAs and Sammy rides pine all year. The reason is that we can evaluate Franzen this year and see if he is going to be worth his contract into the future - if he is we can use the buyout on Tootoo if need be. 

 

The problem it seems is we always wait until next year and.....







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