amato 3,210 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 My cousin, who is a diehard Sabres fan, gave me another perspective on the matter. Care to share that perspective? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 To me...Buffalo is the winner. But they're an incredibly terrible team going into a full-on rebuild. So "winner" should sport an asterisk. I like the move for the Isles, but I'll like it a whole lot more if it's just the first of several big moves. If they snag an upgrade in net and a top-four defenseman, they're serious contenders. A thought: maybe Snow is secretly hoping Vanek has a great time and tells his old buddy Ryan Miller all about it. Wang wouldn't go for it. As long as the Isles are just above the cap, they won't make a move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Anson Carter one great year with the Sedins. Moved on to nowhere. Anson Carter's best years were in Edmonton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Wang wouldn't go for it. As long as the Isles are just above the cap, they won't make a move. Ah, thanks for the insight. I don't know much about their cap situation and such. What you're saying being true, I guess I have to scratch my head a bit at this. I know they want to make a loud, sexy statement, but they could do that with a goalie or defenseman, both of which they need more than a goal scorer, IMHO. Defense wins championships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Things that have surfaced regarding the trade; from TSN, Canada's Sports Leader: As reported on Tuesday by TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, Vanek's former team the Sabres will retain approximately $1.4 million - or roughly 20 per cent - of what's left of the $6.4 million he is still owed in the final year of his contract. TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun added Tuesday that if the 2014 first-round draft pick acquired by Buffalo in the deal ends up being a Top 10 selection in June, the Islanders would have the option to defer the pick to the 2015 draft. Another wrinkle in trade news from the weekend came up on Tuesday as TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger reported that Vanek was offered to the Toronto Maple Leafs three-to-four days ago, but there was no deal to be made. According to Dreger, the return that general manager Darcy Regier received from the Islanders for Vanek was something that the Maple Leafs - or other clubs - weren't willing to pay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Things that have surfaced regarding the trade; from TSN, Canada's Sports Leader: Saw this earlier and I'm surprised the Leafs were the first to be offered Vanek if true. But the reality is the Leafs don't/didn't need him. Especially at the asking price. Islanders gave up a lot. Now will Vanek resign? Highly doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Things that have surfaced regarding the trade; from TSN, Canada's Sports Leader: Saw this earlier and I'm surprised the Leafs were the first to be offered Vanek if true. But the reality is the Leafs don't/didn't need him. Especially at the asking price. Islanders gave up a lot. Now will Vanek resign? Highly doubt it. The Mapleleafs need a number one center badly, Vanek Thomas.doesn't fill that need at all, especially not for that asking price. I also read somewhere that he doesn't want to play in Canada because of the scrutiny. Personally I think he is going to become a Wild or Penguin in the offseason. As with Moulson doubt he wants go waste his prime years with the rebuilding Sabres, they are going full Liners style with it. Edited October 30, 2013 by frankgrimes 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 The Mapleleafs need a number one center badly I really don't think that's the case anymore. Rolling Bolland, Bozak and Kadri in the top 3 lines has yielded pretty good results. 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Interesting that they offered him to the Leafs. Personally I think he is going to become a Wild or Penguin in the offseason. As with Moulson doubt he wants go waste his prime years with the rebuilding Sabres Agreed. Edited October 30, 2013 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Things that have surfaced regarding the trade; from TSN, Canada's Sports Leader: I hadn't even thought about money before, but even with the Sabres retaining some of Vanek's salary, this deal looks even better for them then before I considered salary. Not only are they swaping one player for another of close to the same value, they are getting 2 draft picks and saving about $2-2.5 million in salary and cap hit this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legaleaglewingsfan 75 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) There are many things we don't know. for example, maybe moulson told the isles he wasn't going to resign. if that is the case, then moving him makes sense. at the same time, maybe the isles have already talked to vanek and he is willing to resign. if either or both are true, this is a great trade for the isles. To hear Tavares speak I doubt Moulson would have wanted to go anywhere. It sounds like they were fairly close given that Tavares is godfather to Moulson's kid. I still think that Buffalo wins this deal by getting the picks, of course as someone who lives in Ohio I can say the Browns have had good picks and still suck so you gotta do the right thing with those picks and have a good farm/development system along with a little luck that someone doesnt have a catastrophic injury/accident a la Vladdy. Sorry forgot the link http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=688958 Edited October 30, 2013 by legaleaglewingsfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites