RedWang 422 Report post Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Kindl will be watching the game from the pressbox tomorrow. Kronner-E Dekeyser-Smith Quincey-Lashoff Edited December 20, 2013 by RedWang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 20, 2013 Kindl will be watching the game from the pressbox tomorrow. Kronner-E Dekeyser-Smith Quincey-Lashoff Has this been confirmed anywhere? Because Khan's article says Babcock will decide tomorrow. If it's just your hope or opinion that's fine, but you need to make it clear in your post that's the case. If it's an actual fact then it needs to be confirmed with a link from a reputable source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted December 20, 2013 Lines @ today's practice (per Khan): Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Jurco Sheahan - Helm - Alfredsson Miller - Anderson - Tatar Eaves - Glendening - Cleary Don't see the point in keeping Sheahan up if he's not needed at centre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted December 20, 2013 Bummer. But this means Tootoo will probably play? DeKeyser's been cleared and is ready to go for Saturday. i would think toots would be in, yea. that's great news about dekeyser though! also heard Z should be back the first game after christmas. it'll be nice to get closer to a full lineup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted December 20, 2013 What does tats have to do to get into te top six? Sheahan over tats?! 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted December 20, 2013 Has this been confirmed anywhere? Because Khan's article says Babcock will decide tomorrow. If it's just your hope or opinion that's fine, but you need to make it clear in your post that's the case. If it's an actual fact then it needs to be confirmed with a link from a reputable source. My bad, saw it on bleacher report on a tweet from the "experts" based on what they saw in practice today. Not yet set in stone by Babs. But likely. What does tats have to do to get into te top six? Sheahan over tats?! I think thats to add some offensive skill to a bottom 6 consisting of defensive plugs. Just my theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted December 21, 2013 What has Jurco earned over Tatar?! This is booools***! Babs hates Tatar! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted December 21, 2013 Lines @ today's practice (per Khan): Bertuzzi - Datsyuk - Jurco Sheahan - Helm - Alfredsson Miller - Anderson - Tatar Eaves - Glendening - Cleary That lineup is atrocious. Is Cleary really getting 4th line time over Tootoo? Will Tootoo be a healthy scratch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted December 21, 2013 According to MLive, if Helm is in then Tootoo is out. If Helm is out then Tootoo is in. Helm doesn't think he will be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadian wings fan 305 Report post Posted December 21, 2013 f*** I love Toots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted December 21, 2013 That lineup is atrocious. Is Cleary really getting 4th line time over Tootoo? Will Tootoo be a healthy scratch? Hahaha - yeah, the reason that lineup is atrocious is because of the difference between Cleary and Tootoo. Don't see the point in keeping Sheahan up if he's not needed at centre. Probably because he is a first round pick that they need to make a decision on prior to next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 Babcock claims to play the guys that work hard but yet Cleary is done and still draws into the lineup. Every player outplayed him last game but yet Tootoo gets sent down. 7 ben_usmc, St. Michael (the Red Wing), Hockeymom1960 and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 What an absolute joke to send Tootoo down. 2 WingsAlways and ben_usmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 Babs loves dano, and has no use inside his system for toots. Been this way all season. Unless dano single handedly starts losing us games, he wont b sent down. Its just not going to happen. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 I'm pretty sure this was a cap move. When someone comes back, someone must go down. 1 haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 Absolutely hate this move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 Babs loves dano, and has no use inside his system for toots. Been this way all season. Unless dano single handedly starts losing us games, he wont b sent down. Its just not going to happen. Truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 I'm pretty sure this was a cap move. When someone comes back, someone must go down. With Weiss on LTIR, that should free up $4.5 million in cap space? Roster size is an issue but I don't think this decision comes down to money anymore. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 I'm not surprised but I am disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 Babs loves dano, and has no use inside his system for toots. Been this way all season. Unless dano single handedly starts losing us games, he wont b sent down. Its just not going to happen. This is the truth so Babs needs to shut his trap about playing the best players each night. With Weiss on LTIR, that should free up $4.5 million in cap space? Roster size is an issue but I don't think this decision comes down to money anymore. This is absolutely a cap move but there are 2 duds on this team Sammy and Cleary that are taking up 2 roster spots from guys that deserve to be on this team. Just wait until more come back and Jurco gets sent down and Cleary stays..... its going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted December 23, 2013 This team is pathetically soft. Good luck getting anywhere in the playoffs with a lineup like this. 1 ben_usmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 This team is pathetically soft. Good luck getting anywhere in the playoffs with a lineup like this. We are pathetically soft, but I'm not sure what you're basing the no-chance-in-the-playoffs part on. We beat the Ducks in seven games last season with pretty much the same roster, and we took the vastly superior Cup champs to overtime of game seven. And so far this season we've handled the Big Bad Bruins - everyone's pick for the biggest, toughest team in the league - pretty well. And before we let the bigger, tougher, scrappier Leafs back into the game on Saturday, we were handing it to them in pretty much every way, driving the net on our first three goals and such. Granted, the playoffs are a different animal. But I like our chances in the East. (I believe the West is the much tougher conference, physically and overall.) Maybe we add a little sandpaper at the trade deadline? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 PETR!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted December 24, 2013 We are pathetically soft, but I'm not sure what you're basing the no-chance-in-the-playoffs part on. We beat the Ducks in seven games last season with pretty much the same roster, and we took the vastly superior Cup champs to overtime of game seven. And so far this season we've handled the Big Bad Bruins - everyone's pick for the biggest, toughest team in the league - pretty well. And before we let the bigger, tougher, scrappier Leafs back into the game on Saturday, we were handing it to them in pretty much every way, driving the net on our first three goals and such. Granted, the playoffs are a different animal. But I like our chances in the East. (I believe the West is the much tougher conference, physically and overall.) Maybe we add a little sandpaper at the trade deadline? I love the amount of skill and finesse this team has, but it needs to be complemented by some snarl. I'm not saying we should convince Peter Worrell to come out of retirement and think that's enough snarl, because ultimately, one-dimensional enforcers dont typically play in the playoffs anyway. There will be plenty of snarl available at the deadline. As it stands right now, I don't see this team being able to physically endure a long postseason. We're too fragile. Look how many players are hurt right now. Granted, every team goes through spells or injuries. We seem to go through a lot of them. 2 Dabura and ben_usmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted December 25, 2013 I love the amount of skill and finesse this team has, but it needs to be complemented by some snarl. I'm not saying we should convince Peter Worrell to come out of retirement and think that's enough snarl, because ultimately, one-dimensional enforcers dont typically play in the playoffs anyway. There will be plenty of snarl available at the deadline. As it stands right now, I don't see this team being able to physically endure a long postseason. We're too fragile. Look how many players are hurt right now. Granted, every team goes through spells or injuries. We seem to go through a lot of them. I actually very much agree with where you're coming from. I'm not really sure why I was disagreeing. I guess I just thought it's a bit much to say we have no chance in the playoffs. But I realize that, in saying that, I'm basically saying we should be happy to make the second round, maybe squeak into the Conference Finals. Which is lame. It should be a Cup-or-bust mentality, so: no disagreement here. We need to get much tougher if we want a real shot at the Cup. Definitely. If it has to be one guy, I'd like Wayne Simmonds. I'm really into the idea of trading Franzen (and maybe several other pieces) for a genuine power forward. Not that this would really make sense, but could you imagine Simmonds and Tootoo on the same line? Fireworks. 1 ben_usmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites