The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted September 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Trade Ericsson. DeKeyser - Jensen (until Green is healthy) Cholowski - Daley Kronwall - Hronek Sulak (first injury recall) I know this might not be popular opinion but I'd rather have Ericsson over Jensen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 53 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I know this might not be popular opinion but I'd rather have Ericsson over Jensen. Very unpopular, but might I ask why? Jensen is better that Ericsson in just about every facet of the game. He's also 6 years younger and $3.5M cheaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Very unpopular, but might I ask why? Jensen is better that Ericsson in just about every facet of the game. He's also 6 years younger and $3.5M cheaper. He's a ginger? I dunno. I don't care about $. Or age. Jensen has no future in Detroit and Ericsson shouldn't either. I just like him more. I have fond memories of him standing up for his teammates. Plus he and Daley were decent last year. But any of the four D prospects could replace either of these guys right now for all I care. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 I really dont care for Ericsson or Jensen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 9 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: He's a ginger? I dunno. I don't care about $. Or age. Jensen has no future in Detroit and Ericsson shouldn't either. I just like him more. I have fond memories of him standing up for his teammates. Plus he and Daley were decent last year. But any of the four D prospects could replace either of these guys right now for all I care. I hear ya. I'm not saying we need to keep Jensen. I'd trade either in a heartbeat, along with every other defenseman on last year's blue line. But between the two, I think Jensen is the better player. The fact that he's younger and cheaper is just a bonus. Jensen is a good depth defenseman in my opinion. I like Ericsson, always have, but it's soon time for Holland to make some tough decisions, get rid of some of the old guard and bring in some young blood. 2 The 91 of Ryans and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I hear ya. I'm not saying we need to keep Jensen. I'd trade either in a heartbeat, along with every other defenseman on last year's blue line. But between the two, I think Jensen is the better player. The fact that he's younger and cheaper is just a bonus. Jensen is a good depth defenseman in my opinion. I like Ericsson, always have, but it's soon time for Holland to make some tough decisions, get rid of some of the old guard and bring in some young blood. I'm not one of the herd that's peeing his pants over the idea of Yzerman coming back as GM and saving this franchise BUT I do think that it would be much easier for someone (like Yzerman) to come in and clean house (like Yzerman did in Tampa) then to expect Holland to do it. They are his contracts and he is loyal. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 By the time Yzerman is here, most bad contracts will be gone. Yzerman or not, IMO Abby isn't going anywhere. I can maybe see Nielsen waiving his NTC to go to a Contender or back to The Isle to be their top C. But unless Holland does something stupid, like extend all the upcoming (or re-sign them) with bug raises, Yzerman won't have too many bad contracts to dump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 Speaking of D, the Isles have sent Noah Dobson back to junior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 I disagree, but maybe I'm missing something. To me, Hicketts' goofs were the largest and most noticeable, and there were a few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: I disagree, but maybe I'm missing something. To me, Hicketts' goofs were the largest and most noticeable, and there were a few. I think Hicketts has played well. He's made some great plays in the offensive zone, but I agree, he hasn't been the best of the young defensemen. In my opinion that's been Cholowski by a wide margin. I might even say that Sulak has been slightly better than Hicketts as well. Hronek has struggled a little. I think he could use another season in Grand Rapids to be honest. Cholowski looks NHL ready, but it might not be the worst thing if he starts in GR as well. I'd be fine with Hicketts and Sulak making the Wings in a smaller role, and Cholwski and Hronek getting big roles with the Griffs. Although that may push Saarijarvi further down the depth chart once again. 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: I disagree, but maybe I'm missing something. To me, Hicketts' goofs were the largest and most noticeable, and there were a few. LOL. Hicketts? The best? Please. Is this management's way of saying Cholowski's going to be in GRs no matter how well he plays? Sounds like to to me. 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 I was hoping to see him in one more preseason game, but oh well. Looking forward to see how he does in the Q this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, The 91 of Ryans said: LOL. Hicketts? The best? Please. Is this management's way of saying Cholowski's going to be in GRs no matter how well he plays? Sounds like to to me. That's my concern as well. I'm worried that playing the best isn't as important as already having "paid your dues" in GR in this scenario. I've got nothing against Hicketts and would be okay if it's him + Cholowski that are considered the front runners right now, but the narrative that he's "been the best" doesn't sit well with me. Feels like I'm being prepped for a decision the organization knows everyone's going to be unhappy with. I'm with @krsmith17, in my mind Sulak has the edge over Hicketts. 2 LeftWinger and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 Eh, I'm sticking with what I've said: Hicketts is an acceptable 7D (someone who could spend many nights in the press box) and that alone probably gets him in. "He's been the best" is a nice way of saying that. IMO, the real battle is between Hronek, Sulak, Cholowski. Jensen is probably safe, for the time being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 56 minutes ago, Dabura said: Eh, I'm sticking with what I've said: Hicketts is an acceptable 7D (someone who could spend many nights in the press box) and that alone probably gets him in. "He's been the best" is a nice way of saying that. IMO, the real battle is between Hronek, Sulak, Cholowski. Jensen is probably safe, for the time being. And if that's the battle, who do you think should get in based solely on the small sample size of training camp / pre-season thus far? In my opinion it should be Cholowski by a landslide, then Sulak, then Hronek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 Big Ras & Lil Hicks Everyone else needs more time on the vine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Big Ras & Lil Hicks Everyone else needs more time on the vine Svechnikov? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Svechnikov? I don't think he's signed with a KHL team yet, maybe he's considering Switzerland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: I don't think he's signed with a KHL team yet, maybe he's considering Switzerland You're going to be so wrong about Gino. Like @LeftWinger and @krsmith17 on draft day 2017 levels of wrong!! 2 krsmith17 and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: You're going to be so wrong about Gino. Like @LeftWinger and @krsmith17 on draft day 2017 levels of wrong!! He's either gonna make the roster and Jurco it up, or he's gonna go back down and continue to be out-shined by Matt Pimple That's my professional opinion 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: He's either gonna make the roster and Jurco it up, or he's gonna go back down and continue to be out-shined by Matt Pimple That's my professional opinion I actually laughed out loud. I am cautiously optimistic about Svechnikov though. I just have this feeling he's going to have a big year. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: I actually laughed out loud. I am cautiously optimistic about Svechnikov though. I just have this feeling he's going to have a big year. ...Did you say BIG? BTW, based on our LGW account names, we should not be friends Edited September 24, 2018 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) On 9/23/2018 at 7:06 PM, krsmith17 said: Very unpopular, but might I ask why? Jensen is better that Ericsson in just about every facet of the game. He's also 6 years younger and $3.5M cheaper. He's right handed, DUH! LOL. You changed ur avatar to Veleno. Is this like your B. Smith Bromance 2.0? Edited September 25, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted September 25, 2018 4 hours ago, krsmith17 said: And if that's the battle, who do you think should get in based solely on the small sample size of training camp / pre-season thus far? In my opinion it should be Cholowski by a landslide, then Sulak, then Hronek. I would go Cholowski, Sulak, then Hicketts. I am not so sure Hronek has even been better than Saarajarvi IMO. 3 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: He's either gonna make the roster and Jurco it up, or he's gonna go back down and continue to be out-shined by Matt Pimple That's my professional opinion Doesn't having a professional opinion require one to be a professional? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites