4/2 Genosid Route GDT - Penguins @ Red Wings - 7:30 PM ET

[BigWillieStyle 662]

9 hours ago, GMRwings1983 said:

Mantha is starting to remind me of Franzen.  Dude is scary when he's streaky.  Just invert his number.  

Maybe it's not such a coincidence... He wore #39 until Hasek returned for the umpteenth time. 

 

https://www.kronozio.com/card/d0346a74-9a91-4582-aa27-d89af53f97e5/2005-06-Ultra-Gold-Johan-Franzen-RC-217

[F.Michael 4,590]

9 hours ago, MileHighWingsGuy said:

Dumb question but I gotta ask we finish in the 6-8 spot after the lottery. We have what 3 second rounders? Has there ever been a package to deal to secure the #1 overall? We seem to have a lot of talented guys but really need another huge talent to match with some of these guys.

Just gonna throw this out there since I was a bit surprised to hear about it myself...Apparently McJesus isn't happy in Edmonton...The clown show aka the front office is where his frustration lies.

Any chance in the world he's moved for whomever lands the 1st overall this year? Would it take more than Hughes? How many will barf if Edmonton ends up winning the 1st overall?

[BigWillieStyle 662]

I wonder if Lil Bert and French Franzen have a side bet on who hits 25 goals first. They've both been playing like they've got their own money on the table. Would be great to see them both put up 25, at this point in the year. 

[BigWillieStyle 662]

12 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Just gonna throw this out there since I was a bit surprised to hear about it myself...Apparently McJesus isn't happy in Edmonton...The clown show aka the front office is where his frustration lies.

Any chance in the world he's moved for whomever lands the 1st overall this year? Would it take more than Hughes? How many will barf if Edmonton ends up winning the 1st overall?

I just barfed at the thought of that circus getting yet another #1 pick, only to destroy all of that kids hopes and dreams. 

 

On your other question, Yes, it will take more than Hughes to get McDavid. McD is a known commodity, and has enough time behind him that teams know for certain, that they'll be getting a top 1C out of the deal.

 

Hughes, on the other hand, is a young, skinny, kid, who has tremendous upside, and who will probably turn out to be a franchise player, but, he's been injured 4 times this season, playing against players that are not in The NHL. I don't see him having the same results as McD did in his rookie year. Maybe a few off seasons in the gym with Barry Bonds, and he'll be able to compete at the same level as McD, I just don't see it happening immediately. 

 

Side thought. The name Jack, does sound infinitely tougher than Conner, so he has that going for him. 

 

If I'm playing Oilers GM, and let's face it, anyone could do a better job than what they've had, and that deal comes up to me, I'm asking for Hughes AND a top 6 forward under 23, or, your #1 prospect, not currently on your NHL roster. The way I see it, is that I'm the one that's taking the big risk by making that trade. 

 

Just my .02

[AtlantaHotWings 1,135]

9 hours ago, Dabura said:

I guess the Lindros trade might count. But, yeah. Basically not a thing. The cost of acquiring that pick would bleed us dry.

and that trade basically created the Avs core as they got 

    Hextall, Duchesne, Ricci, Forsberg 1st rounder in 93(Thibault), and a pick in 94(traded)

Thibault was traded for Roy

Hextall for Deadmarsh

Boom 96 was cup time in Denver and we all know where the Flyers ended up in 97...!!

If we got the 1st and were to capitalize like this I would be okay with a trade. That trade made a core for quite a few years with that silver cup thingy being passed around the ice twice in 5 years 

 

Edited April 3, 2019 by AtlantaHotWings

[krsmith17 7,191]

43 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Just gonna throw this out there since I was a bit surprised to hear about it myself...Apparently McJesus isn't happy in Edmonton...The clown show aka the front office is where his frustration lies.

Any chance in the world he's moved for whomever lands the 1st overall this year? Would it take more than Hughes? How many will barf if Edmonton ends up winning the 1st overall?

Not even Edmonton are dumb enough to trade McDavid. But yes, it would take a LOT more than Hughes to get him. McDavid isn't just a franchise player, he's a generational player. He doesn't have the same resume as Gretzky had at the time of the trade, but he's that sort of player, and would command a MASSIVE haul. Let's say the Sens win the draft lottery. If they wanted McDavid, they would have to give up Hughes, Chabot, plus pick(s) / prospect(s) to get the conversation started. If Hughes is lucky, he will be half as good as McDavid, and that would still be one hell of a player.

[amato 3,210]

10 hours ago, Dabura said:

Bertuzzi is the first Red Wing in history with four straight three-point games.

Came here to see if this was posted yet. Pretty amazing. He seems to only get better and better. 

 

His points right now, prorated to 82 games, puts him at just over 50 if he would've played all games this year. Not bad for his first (basically) full year in the NHL. 

[F.Michael 4,590]

50 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Not even Edmonton are dumb enough to trade McDavid. But yes, it would take a LOT more than Hughes to get him. McDavid isn't just a franchise player, he's a generational player. He doesn't have the same resume as Gretzky had at the time of the trade, but he's that sort of player, and would command a MASSIVE haul. Let's say the Sens win the draft lottery. If they wanted McDavid, they would have to give up Hughes, Chabot, plus pick(s) / prospect(s) to get the conversation started. If Hughes is lucky, he will be half as good as McDavid, and that would still be one hell of a player.

Ottawa?

You mean Colorado...

[krsmith17 7,191]

10 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Ottawa?

You mean Colorado...

S*** man, I forgot for a minute what a mess the Sens are...

Well swap out Ottawa and Chabot and insert Colorado and Makar... But again, it would take MUCH more than that to get McDavid...

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

3 hours ago, BigWillieStyle said:

Burke did it in 99 with Vancouver, to get the Sedin's. Draft order was Tampa, Atlanta, Vancouver, Chicago,... Traded McCabe and 2000 1st round to Chicago for #4, a few days before draft. Convinced Tampa on draft day to trade their #1 pick, for the #4, and two 3rd round picks. Then traded the #1 to Atlanta, on the stipulation that they pick Patrik Stefan. Leaving Burke holding #2 and #3 for The Twins. Burke becomes a legend for pulling off the greatest trade since Peter Minuit fleeced The Lenape Tribe of Manhattan, for $24. 

Peter Minuit was a regular visitor and trader in the Manhattan area, but the New York and Delaware bay areas have certainly had their fair share of visitors. The Lenni Lenape - Algonquin for "The True People" - were first visited in 1524 by Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano in the service of King Francis I of France, and engaged in extensive fur trade with Dutch traders until the time of Manhattans purchase.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

4 hours ago, BigWillieStyle said:

Burke did it in 99 with Vancouver, to get the Sedin's. Draft order was Tampa, Atlanta, Vancouver, Chicago,... Traded McCabe and 2000 1st round to Chicago for #4, a few days before draft. Convinced Tampa on draft day to trade their #1 pick, for the #4, and two 3rd round picks. Then traded the #1 to Atlanta, on the stipulation that they pick Patrik Stefan. Leaving Burke holding #2 and #3 for The Twins. Burke becomes a legend for pulling off the greatest trade since Peter Minuit fleeced The Lenape Tribe of Manhattan, for $24. 

The worst trades in history.

1.  Jesus for Barabbas

2.  Bowe Bergdahl for five terrorists (thanks Obama)

3.  the Gretzky trade

4.  Louisiana Purchase

 

3 hours ago, F.Michael said:

Just gonna throw this out there since I was a bit surprised to hear about it myself...Apparently McJesus isn't happy in Edmonton...The clown show aka the front office is where his frustration lies.

Any chance in the world he's moved for whomever lands the 1st overall this year? Would it take more than Hughes? How many will barf if Edmonton ends up winning the 1st overall?

I heard his girlfriend is the sister of Chris Pronger's wife.  

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Last 4 games:

• Dylan Larkin: 9 points
• Anthony Mantha: 11 points
• Tyler Bertuzzi: 12 points

Last 71 games:

• Abdelkader:: 19 points

Also, Ottawa has officially clinched last place in the league. Meaning Colorado will have the best odds at the lottery (18 something %) and the Avs will pick no lower than #4.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

46 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

The worst trades in history.

1.  Jesus for Barabbas

2.  Bowe Bergdahl for five terrorists (thanks Obama)

3.  the Gretzky trade

4.  Louisiana Purchase

 

I heard his girlfriend is the sister of Chris Pronger's wife.  

Legend tells of a man with golden hair who only makes the best deals, the biggest best deals. Come hear the good word.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Last 4 games:

• Dylan Larkin: 9 points
• Anthony Mantha: 11 points
• Tyler Bertuzzi: 12 points

Last 71 games:

• Abdelkader:: 19 points

Also, Ottawa has officially clinched last place in the league. Meaning Colorado will have the best odds at the lottery (18 something %) and the Avs will pick no lower than #4.

The Avs will be scary with MacKinnon and Hughes as their top 2 down the middle.  

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

I dont think McDavid would ever be traded. If he wants out of Edmonton, he'll just have to play to free agency.

2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Last 4 games:

• Dylan Larkin: 9 points
• Anthony Mantha: 11 points
• Tyler Bertuzzi: 12 points

Last 71 games:

• Abdelkader:: 19 points

Also, Ottawa has officially clinched last place in the league. Meaning Colorado will have the best odds at the lottery (18 something %) and the Avs will pick no lower than #4.

So basically the pick they're giving up this year will be better than the pick they kept last year. Hilarious.