AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted December 19, 2024 (edited) Thurs morning coffee thoughts We have 5 of 6 at home the 1 away is at Montreal currently having won 2 in row after last night. Do we want this team to go on a heater? Lets put on the red colored shades(you all have a pair!) Say we win 4 of the next 6 which gets us back into the middle of the pack and maybe at the cusp of WC2 by end of December. Then we do decent enough in Jan/Feb/early March to keep us in the mix for WC2. Are we going to be happy or sad with that scenario? Seems like it would put us in a similar spot as last year in no man's land come trade deadline. Not crappy enough to sell, not good enough to buy for a run so we get more meh. End up getting a mid level pick in the 1st and potentially saving Derek's job. Now take the red colored shades off as those things can hurt your perspective. Who from here was this guy? https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2024/12/18/detroit-red-wings-shirtless-fan-little-caesars-arena-flyers-game/77078471007/ Edited December 19, 2024 by AtlantaHotWings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Thurs morning coffee thoughts We have 5 of 6 at home the 1 away is at Montreal currently having won 2 in row after last night. Do we want this team to go on a heater? Lets put on the red colored shades(you all have a pair!) Say we win 4 of the next 6 which gets us back into the middle of the pack and maybe at the cusp of WC2 by end of December. Then we do decent enough in Jan/Feb/early March to keep us in the mix for WC2. Are we going to be happy or sad with that scenario? Seems like it would put us in a similar spot as last year in no man's land come trade deadline. Not crappy enough to sell, not good enough to buy for a run so we get more meh. End up getting a mid level pick in the 1st and potentially saving Derek's job. Now take the red colored shades off as those things can hurt your perspective. Who from here was this guy? https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2024/12/18/detroit-red-wings-shirtless-fan-little-caesars-arena-flyers-game/77078471007/ If we make the playoffs because of unsustainably high levels of play from guys who aren't going to be around long (Kane, Tarasenko, Chiarot, Talbot, Gustafsson, etc.) then it's probably a bad thing. But if Larkin, Seider, Raymond, Edvinsson, Kasper, Debrincat can somehow drag us into the playoffs you'd have to think it's a good thing. Don't we WANT those guys to be team leaders who excel at playoff level hockey? 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted December 19, 2024 15 hours ago, mackel said: What would an equivalent trade package from the Wings have been for Kakko? The cost seems very reasonable and the reward could be great. I think Yzerman is Uber conservative... and it's hurting us. I would think that since Borgen only has 2 points in 33 games played that Lagesson would be equivalent? Both 28, Lagesson is a bit larger is stature. The draft picks we definitely could've matched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted December 19, 2024 4 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Thurs morning coffee thoughts We have 5 of 6 at home the 1 away is at Montreal currently having won 2 in row after last night. Do we want this team to go on a heater? Lets put on the red colored shades(you all have a pair!) Say we win 4 of the next 6 which gets us back into the middle of the pack and maybe at the cusp of WC2 by end of December. Then we do decent enough in Jan/Feb/early March to keep us in the mix for WC2. Are we going to be happy or sad with that scenario? Seems like it would put us in a similar spot as last year in no man's land come trade deadline. Not crappy enough to sell, not good enough to buy for a run so we get more meh. End up getting a mid level pick in the 1st and potentially saving Derek's job. Now take the red colored shades off as those things can hurt your perspective. Who from here was this guy? https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2024/12/18/detroit-red-wings-shirtless-fan-little-caesars-arena-flyers-game/77078471007/ Either way, Yzerman is not going to make this team any better this season. That has been shown by not acquiring any of the players that have been on the move recently that would've definitely made the team better. He is probably going to ride this team throughout and see if they can squeak in. As mentioned above, Yzerman could've matched the Kakko trade. Real Trade: Kakko for Boren, 25 3rd, 25 6th US: Kakko for Lagesson, 25 3rd (we have 2), 25 6th Fowler trade: Real Trade: Fowler, 4th for a 2nd, J. Biakabatuka (who we once had) US: Fowler, 4th for a 2nd, E. Viro (or K. Aucoin) Trouba trade: Real Trade: Trouba for a Conditional 4th, U. Vaakanainen US: Trouba for a conditional 4th, again Viro or Aucoin Jiricek trade: Reak Trade: Jiricek and a 5th for D. Hunt, a 2025 1st round pick, 2026 3rd round pick, 2026 4th round pick, and 2027 2nd round pick US: Jiricek and a 5th for (again) Viro or Aucoin, a 2025 1st round pick(protected), 2026 3rd round pick, 2026 4th round pick, and 2027 2nd round pick Liljegrin trade: Real Trade: Liljegrin for M. Benning, a 2026 6th round pick and a Conditional 2025 3rd round pick US: Liljegrin for Lagesson, a 2026 6th round pick and a Conditional 2025 3rd round pick Any one of, or combination of these trades would make our team better. For salary cap issues, you just waive players that suck or try to move some salary out to others. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 390 Report post Posted December 19, 2024 Husso got sent back to GR today. I wonder how long he will stay this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted December 19, 2024 (edited) Cozens coming ? https://x.com/WingedWheelPod/status/1869804485809164411 the trade ideas in comments are not too bad ... Edited December 19, 2024 by AtlantaHotWings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted December 20, 2024 16 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Cozens coming ? https://x.com/WingedWheelPod/status/1869804485809164411 the trade ideas in comments are not too bad ... What are they... don't have Twitter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted December 20, 2024 4 hours ago, mackel said: What are they... don't have Twitter... sorry Mackel my ending of not too bad should read as sarcasm got wiped Thompson for Joe V straight up Berggren and a second for Byram. my fav Petry for a beef on weck and original buffalo wings I guess this is part of the catchall Wings extended John Keating @JohnKeatingTV · Hey, gang. A bit of personal news here. I’ve decided to retire from TV at the end of this Red Wings season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,124 Report post Posted December 20, 2024 and the video of the hit on Simon https://x.com/i/status/1869592989141713310 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 390 Report post Posted December 20, 2024 34 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: and the video of the hit on Simon https://x.com/i/status/1869592989141713310 I bet he keeps his mouthguard in a little tighter after that hit in the chops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 231 Report post Posted December 20, 2024 3 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: and the video of the hit on Simon https://x.com/i/status/1869592989141713310 Hey thanks. I'm glad one of us, meaning you, found this and posted it. I was pretty peedoff watching this as it happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted December 21, 2024 Aside from Cozens I’d also really like to land Alex Tuch from the Sabres. And Jiri Kulich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted January 6 (edited) LA has put Arthur Kaliyev on waivers. Any interest? I am not sure he'd make it to Detroit's position, considering that they have risen to 9th from the bottom now. 23 years old, $875K. He'll be an RFA this summer. Could excel with some of our other young players. I's like to see Yzerman put a claim in on him at least. Edited January 6 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted January 6 4 hours ago, LeftWinger said: LA has put Arthur Kaliyev on waivers. Any interest? I am not sure he'd make it to Detroit's position, considering that they have risen to 9th from the bottom now. 23 years old, $875K. He'll be an RFA this summer. Could excel with some of our other young players. I's like to see Yzerman put a claim in on him at least. I saw that too, but the knock on him has always been that despite his obvious offensive instincts he's still pretty slow and soft. He's a poor man's Thomas Vanek. I'm good on that guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted January 6 Rangers claimed him 2 spots ahead of Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted January 6 I'm not really interested in anymore pantywaists. We've got Debrincat, Raymond, Berggren, and Kane on the team already. I appreciate that some of them are kinda feisty, but that's not a substitute for big AND feisty. We need guys who can play a power game and score some goals. I like a few of the Buffalo guys, plus Lawson Crouse for that reason. Separately we need another top four stud on defense. Given that Chiarot can play either side and ASP is a righty I prefer a LHD here. Probably Byram to pair with Seider and Edvinsson can go with Chiarot on the 2nd pair. Figure out the 3rd pair with the best of the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I'm not really interested in anymore pantywaists. We've got Debrincat, Raymond, Berggren, and Kane on the team already. I appreciate that some of them are kinda feisty, but that's not a substitute for big AND feisty. We need guys who can play a power game and score some goals. I like a few of the Buffalo guys, plus Lawson Crouse for that reason. Separately we need another top four stud on defense. Given that Chiarot can play either side and ASP is a righty I prefer a LHD here. Probably Byram to pair with Seider and Edvinsson can go with Chiarot on the 2nd pair. Figure out the 3rd pair with the best of the rest. Might have to pull off a big trade for both Byram and Cozins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Might have to pull off a big trade for both Byram and Cozins. I can’t remember a trade comparable to something like that. It would blow my mind. You’d give a fortune to get them both and may not even end up with anything better than STL got for free when they offer sheeted Broberg and Holloway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmybigrigs69 367 Report post Posted January 7 3 hours ago, kipwinger said: I'm not really interested in anymore pantywaists. We've got Debrincat, Raymond, Berggren, and Kane on the team already. I appreciate that some of them are kinda feisty, but that's not a substitute for big AND feisty. We need guys who can play a power game and score some goals. I like a few of the Buffalo guys, plus Lawson Crouse for that reason. Separately we need another top four stud on defense. Given that Chiarot can play either side and ASP is a righty I prefer a LHD here. Probably Byram to pair with Seider and Edvinsson can go with Chiarot on the 2nd pair. Figure out the 3rd pair with the best of the rest. No, were not stopping at McDefendolds. We have perfectly good Buium and Wallinder at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted January 7 12 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said: No, were not stopping at McDefendolds. We have perfectly good Buium and Wallinder at home. Hopefully they don't turn out to be just big meatballs on bread with ketchup all over them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted January 7 33 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Hopefully they don't turn out to be just big meatballs on bread with ketchup all over them. Or hotdogs with sandwich bread buns... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted January 7 55 minutes ago, mackel said: Or hotdogs with sandwich bread buns... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted January 7 1 hour ago, mackel said: Or hotdogs with sandwich bread buns... Hillbilly sammich 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted January 11 So the offense is finally humming, the powerplay is still good, the PK is league average under McClellan, and the goaltending is holding up. We dominated a bad team last night, just like we should have. But we still gave up 3 goals. The defense needs bolstered. We do that and I think we’ve got a real good chance at winning our divisional games and making the playoffs. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 334 Report post Posted January 13 Fun fact: JT Compher attended the same High School that a few scenes from both The Breakfast Club and Ferris Buellers Day Off were filmed at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
