What I don't understand is the season he got 60 points he played with good players the majority of the year. During the other seasons his linemates were... Cleary? Franzen? Samuelsson? Hudler? Leino? You guys have always judged Fil on his production when on a line with either s***ty, or lazy players, but never gave him credit when he performed up to expectations playing with players he SHOULD have been paired with. Blame Fil all you want, this team is currently lined with older, lazy, or just plain mediocre players. This offseason arguably made it worse with the resigning of Cleary and putting our 2 huge young prospects either in the minors or on the bench. I'd put money (and have actually, drafted Fil on my fantasy team) that Fil will hit 60+ points this season. He's got the talent, and now the linemates to do it.
In Kenny you all trust, how many times does he have to make mistakes for you to realize that he's taking the team in a bad direction?
Remember when Flip was the youth? Remember when he put put up 70 points in GR and everyone was all over Babcock and Holland for not playing him enough? Now he's greedy and one-dimensional and useless
Remember when Hudler was the youth? Remember when he put up 96 points in GR? Remember how everyone was all over Babcock and Holland for not playing him enough? Now he's greedy and one-dimensional and useless and lazy.
Remember when Kopecky was the youth? Remember when he put up 72 points in GR? Remember how everyone was all over Babcock and Holland for not playing him enough? (well, OK, its was just Eva ) Now he's just useless.
Remember when Kronwall was the youth? Remember when he put up 53 points in GR? Remember when he was Nick Jr? Now he's useless and can't defend, and a turnover machine and not a #1 defenceman.
Remember when Smith was the youth? Remember how 12 months ago he was LOCK for the Calder on here? Now he's the most useless defenceman in history, a Frankenstein combination of all the worst parts of Anders Ericsson, Max Kuznetzov, Matthieu Dandenault and Brett Lebda.
Are you spotting the pattern here? When they're in the minors all our prospects are the next coming of Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom on here. Then they get here, and they turn into what the scouts projected (3rd line checker, 2nd line 2-way winger) and not what the LGWers predicted (Pavel Zetterberg), and LGW treats them like they're something they scraped off their shoe.
So good luck Nyquist. Good luck Tatar. Good luck Sheahan, Ferraro and Jurco. You'd better turn into HOFers, otherwise you'll just plain SUCK!
Fil scored 197 pts during his 5 yr/15 million contract. That's $76,000/point.
Dats scored 342 @ 5yr/33.5 mil. That's $98,000/pt.
Franzen scored 222 @ 5yr/21.650 mil. That's $97,000/pt
Cleary is $83,000/pt.
Horton is $100,000/pt
Crosby was $117,000/pt
Gomez was $204,000/pt (see how important this stat is)
Hudler was $57,000/pt
We pay them to score and fil has more than filled his duty if money is the question. He was our cheapest scorer. We let go of huds when he was the best bang for the buck.
Fil plays D and is fast and can create matchup problems. His demand of $5mil is fair to the standards. If we paid him 5mil/yr at 197 pts he would be $126,000/pt. To get a fairl contract with him it'll have to be $3.8@5 yrs which would make him a $98,000/pt player. However, we can't afford it with the influx of new, cheaper talent so sadly we'll be letting go another better bang for the buck player again.
No matter how anyone spins it that he's small, passess to cleary on a break away, doesn't give good enough massages, does not fight etc etc, one thing is certain. Fil has the qualities of a top player. He passess well, backchecks, and scores enough to be effective to the money he is paid.
Hell no....wouldn't take him for half the money and 6 years...let him go....send Cleary with him
The guy is one of the best players on the team. Very underrated, drafted and developed in house. If he won't take 3.5-4 million, then gonna have to let him go. Letting Hudler go was a HUGE mistake, and it will be a HUGE mistake to let Flipulla go too. The Red Wings waste so much cap space on people who don't even play, they can afford to overpay a player by a million here or there.
Guys, use capgeek and read. If franzen was to retire in the Summer of 2017, 4 seasons from now we would have a cap it of 2,772,727 for 3 more seasons. If he was to retire in the summer of 2016, our cap hit would be just under 2.1 million for 4 seasons. I he retires in the summer of 2018 the cap hit is 4.16 million for 2 seasons. If he retires in the summer of 2019 the hit is 8.32 million for 1 season.
In any of these events he costs us money on our cap, when he is not even playing. The hit is worse as he gets closer to the end of his contract. Now if we buy him out, he gives us a $0 cap hit. he is going to get paid his 22.5 million no matter what we/he does.
Will this shut the Cleary cretins up? Will this get them off his back?
Nawww....Hell, he shoulda been scoring goals even with a broken back.
And don't tell me that was only for the last two games. Did any of you see him let up? To all of you Cleary haters out there, move on and get.a.life. Pick on someone your own size because you'd never ever fit in his skates.
Not unless it was separated in game 1. Cleary was terrible all year, and needs to no longer be on the roster
props to him for playing through so much pain though.