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#2448360 stephen weiss

Posted by Playmaker on 27 October 2013 - 06:51 PM

 

What this team needs is a leader. A leader like Valtteri Filppula. We'd have the 2013-14 Cup by now if Flip were still with us. But now we'll never win anything because Weiss is with us.

 

*runs his fingers through his hair, pretending it's Flip's hair* :wub:

Clearly, Filppula was the worst player ever to don the Winged Wheel.  Never scored a single goal. Never had a single assist. Never played defense.  Always floated.  He stood there at the blue line and never moved.  Every game we lost was his fault.  Obviously all we had to do was get rid of him and our troubles would be  over.  No one with an ounce of hockey intelligence would sign a slacker like him with no offensive, defensive or hockey skills at all. 

 

Thankfully, the Messiah, Stephen Weiss has come to save us.  Luckily he's so highly skilled, it should only take him half the season to learn that foreign hockey concept, back checking.  Fortunately the Wings don't need scoring, as evidenced by the presence of Weiss, Cleary, Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, etc.  The league has decided just to award the Wings points for our heart, grit and character.  Warrior points. 




#2447880 stephen weiss

Posted by wingslionstigers on 26 October 2013 - 10:25 AM

Is this a joke? When he didn't play with Zetterberg he was a ghost out there.

Lol this just proves my assumption. Because he didn't get a point per game like Dats and Z he was useless huh? Filppula made our team harder to play against night in and night out. Like I said before, you don't fully understand the game of hockey when you watch it so you make your judgements based upon the stats you see.




#2447844 stephen weiss

Posted by Lonewuhf on 25 October 2013 - 11:09 PM

 

I think you forget how often Fil gave up...

No, I think you forgot how often Fil gave up... He was often one of the few Wings to show up almost every night.




#2444977 3 in a row.... I'll take it!

Posted by NyquistianDeke on 16 October 2013 - 11:29 AM

So the Wings have beaten Philly, Boston, & Columbus.

 

Boston being a heavy weight. But, for a young team trying to figure some things out it's not a bad stretch at all.

 

I like the defense & the powerplay kill. I have litte question they will get the rest going.

 

All in all I'm pretty happy

 

How are the wings a young team?




#2443586 Filppula to Tampa 5 yr $5 million

Posted by Lonewuhf on 12 October 2013 - 04:54 PM

What I don't understand is the season he got 60 points he played with good players the majority of the year. During the other seasons his linemates were... Cleary? Franzen? Samuelsson? Hudler? Leino?  You guys have always judged Fil on his production when on a line with either s***ty, or lazy players, but never gave him credit when he performed up to expectations playing with players he SHOULD have been paired with. Blame Fil all you want, this team is currently lined with older, lazy, or just plain mediocre players. This offseason arguably made it worse with the resigning of Cleary and putting our 2 huge young prospects either in the minors or on the bench. I'd put money (and have actually, drafted Fil on my fantasy team) that Fil will hit 60+ points this season. He's got the talent, and now the linemates to do it.

 

In Kenny you all trust, how many times does he have to make mistakes for you to realize that he's taking the team in a bad direction?




#2441569 ESPN Poll of Anonymous Players

Posted by dropkickshanahans on 04 October 2013 - 01:28 PM

 

 

Cook was an easy winner with 30 percent of the vote while Kronwall and Winnipeg's Dustin Byfuglien got seven percent apiece.

 

So basically 2 people think Kronwall is the dirtiest.




#2431049 List of Lidstrom's defence partners over the years

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 21 July 2013 - 11:40 AM

Anyone remember how Lilja ended up Lidstrom's partner in the 2006 playoffs?  I don't think Schneider was injured.

 

I just know Lidstrom held Lilja back and that pairing was a disaster in the postseason.  




#2428195 Filppula to Tampa 5 yr $5 million

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 06 July 2013 - 06:06 PM

 

Because Ericsson just came off of a successful season as a top-pairing defenseman, whereas Filppula just had his worst season since he was a rookie.


 

Nonsense. He was signed by Tampa Bay to a five-year contract!

 

Ericsson did have a good season, but he still shouldn't be a top pairing defenseman and Filppula shouldn't be a top line center.

 

 It's just the way it ends up sometimes when a team doesn't have the proper personnel to play those roles.  


What is the weather like in Tampa? What should I pack?

 

Plenty of hair gel and tanning lotion.  

 

Also, get ready to pass a lot of pucks to Stamkos for one-timers.  Should be more fun than passing it to Cleary and watching him fall down.    




#2426706 Dan Cleary Watch

Posted by Travis on 05 July 2013 - 12:02 PM

Dan Cleary watch, you say?

 

Found it.

 

BrokenWatch.jpg




#2424667 With the draft over, time to focus on UFA and trades.

Posted by Nev on 02 July 2013 - 12:13 PM

I'm not normally a thread nazi, but isn't this covered in the other 20 topics on the front page?




#2423283 Dreger: Filppula looking for $5.5m/season over at least 7 years

Posted by Nev on 29 June 2013 - 03:02 AM

Let flip go. Bring in the youth.

 

Remember when Flip was the youth?  Remember when he put put up 70 points in GR and everyone was all over Babcock and Holland for not playing him enough?  Now he's greedy and one-dimensional and useless

 

Remember when Hudler was the youth?  Remember when he put up 96 points in GR?  Remember how everyone was all over Babcock and Holland for not playing him enough?  Now he's greedy and one-dimensional and useless and lazy.

 

Remember when Kopecky was the youth?  Remember when he put up 72 points in GR?  Remember how everyone was all over Babcock and Holland for not playing him enough? (well, OK, its was just Eva ;) )  Now he's just useless.

 

Remember when Kronwall was the youth?  Remember when he put up 53 points in GR?  Remember when he was Nick Jr?  Now he's useless and can't defend, and a turnover machine and not a #1 defenceman.

 

Remember when Smith was the youth?  Remember how 12 months ago he was LOCK for the Calder on here?  Now he's the most useless defenceman in history, a Frankenstein combination of all the worst parts of Anders Ericsson, Max Kuznetzov, Matthieu Dandenault and Brett Lebda.

 

Are you spotting the pattern here?  When they're in the minors all our prospects are the next coming of Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom on here.  Then they get here, and they turn into what the scouts projected (3rd line checker, 2nd line 2-way winger) and not what the LGWers predicted (Pavel Zetterberg), and LGW treats them like they're something they scraped off their shoe.

 

So good luck Nyquist.  Good luck Tatar.  Good luck Sheahan, Ferraro and Jurco.  You'd better turn into HOFers, otherwise you'll just plain SUCK!




#2422474 Should we trade our 2013 1st round pick?

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 26 June 2013 - 03:21 PM

The organizational depth is such that the Wings can likely afford to actually trade up right now.  They could really use a home run scoring forward right now.




#2421203 Dreger: Filppula looking for $5.5m/season over at least 7 years

Posted by Aznknight on 21 June 2013 - 12:02 PM

Fil scored 197 pts during his 5 yr/15 million contract. That's $76,000/point.
Dats scored 342 @ 5yr/33.5 mil. That's $98,000/pt.
Franzen scored 222 @ 5yr/21.650 mil. That's $97,000/pt
Cleary is $83,000/pt.
Horton is $100,000/pt
Crosby was $117,000/pt
Gomez was $204,000/pt (see how important this stat is)
Hudler was $57,000/pt


We pay them to score and fil has more than filled his duty if money is the question. He was our cheapest scorer. We let go of huds when he was the best bang for the buck.
Fil plays D and is fast and can create matchup problems. His demand of $5mil is fair to the standards. If we paid him 5mil/yr at 197 pts he would be $126,000/pt. To get a fairl contract with him it'll have to be $3.8@5 yrs which would make him a $98,000/pt player. However, we can't afford it with the influx of new, cheaper talent so sadly we'll be letting go another better bang for the buck player again.

No matter how anyone spins it that he's small, passess to cleary on a break away, doesn't give good enough massages, does not fight etc etc, one thing is certain. Fil has the qualities of a top player. He passess well, backchecks, and scores enough to be effective to the money he is paid.


#2421143 Dreger: Filppula looking for $5.5m/season over at least 7 years

Posted by TheOwl on 21 June 2013 - 12:20 AM

Hell no....wouldn't take him for half the money and 6 years...let him go....send Cleary with him

 

The guy is one of the best players on the team. Very underrated, drafted and developed in house. If he won't take 3.5-4 million, then gonna have to let him go. Letting Hudler go was a HUGE mistake, and it will be a HUGE mistake to let Flipulla go too. The Red Wings waste so much cap space on people who don't even play, they can afford to overpay a player by a million here or there.




#2416286 Franzen Buyout?

Posted by Richdg on 30 May 2013 - 04:47 PM

Guys, use capgeek and read. If franzen was to retire in the Summer of 2017, 4 seasons from now we would have a cap it of 2,772,727 for 3 more seasons. If he was to retire in the summer of 2016, our cap hit would be just under 2.1 million for 4 seasons. I he retires in the summer of 2018 the cap hit is 4.16 million for 2 seasons. If he retires in the summer of 2019 the hit is 8.32 million for 1 season.

In any of these events he costs us money on our cap, when he is not even playing. The hit is worse as he gets closer to the end of his contract. Now if we buy him out, he gives us a $0 cap hit. he is going to get paid his 22.5 million no matter what we/he does.