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#2618312 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by kickazz on 01 July 2015 - 04:01 PM

Brad Richards = No more Cleary :)


1 year deal? Guy can put up a decent amount of points, has tons of experience. Our top 2 centers are old. One won't even be able to start the season. The other is injury prone and was significantly slow during the playoffs. What if Zetterberg goes down with an injury? No Pav and Z.. Rely on the kids? Okay but that would be a huge gamble because.. well theyre still developing. 


Richards can center a second line and Pav and Z can dominate the first line. When Pav and Z play together they don't need to exert as much effort. It will help in their longevity. Just my thoughts on this. 

#2618397 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 01 July 2015 - 04:38 PM


More Green on TSN: "I was willing to take a little bit less on term to go to a great organization that I’m extremely excited to play for."

#2606075 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by VM1138 on 05 May 2015 - 07:37 AM

Jimmy D needs to be put out to pasture.  Mantha had a rough year but from reading about his play (haven't seen him play yet) he's not playing badly.  He's just sort of average.  That tends to happen with prospects one of their years.  Very unusual for a prospect to be called out after one year.

#2605954 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by Z and D for the C on 04 May 2015 - 05:01 PM

Pretty stupid comments by him no matter his intentions. There are much better ways to motivate a player than by completely dismissing him after one half of one pro season.

#2605950 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by frankgrimes on 04 May 2015 - 04:42 PM

Way to stick up for a great prospect after coming back from a broken leg...

#2604469 ECQF Game 7 GDT : at Lightning 2, Red Wings 0 (Tampa wins series, 4-3)

Posted by Dominator2005 on 29 April 2015 - 09:17 PM

Playing without 2 top six forwards...
Playing 7th game without best def...
Playing with Marchenlo and Kindl...

Good JOB.

Kenny put a solid playoff contenders but not Stanley Cup contenders on the ice.

#2577617 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 March 2015 - 02:01 PM

Ya, all of Pulk, March and Jurco will all be "sent to GR" on paper, in order to qualify them for the AHL playoffs.  They will be "recalled" after 3PM when the roster limits are no longer set at 23, as long as they fit under the cap.


I cannot say how happy I am right now, these are two types of trades that add the right combo of what a team may need to get them over the top.  All these teams "loading up" have a s*** ton more to lose if they don't win a Cup, and guess what? Last I heard only ONE team can still win the Cup, so there are 4-5 teams that loaded up this week, that are going to kicking themselves in the ass...Chicago better win this year, becuase if they don't, they are facing the same situation as 2010, they will need to dump salary to get under the cap. 


What Holland did the last 24 hours just proves that he is still one of the best. I may be biased, but if you are couting what was sent in retrurn today, Detroit cam out near the top of the "winner" chart.  I am very critical of Holland (to say the least) but today it just proves how much I should be less critical of him.  Look at the last few years of drafting and todays deadline.  Sure he paid too much for Legwand last year, but he HAD to, there was almost no way of making the playoffs with Andy as your #1 center. He tried for the Olsen twins, he tried for the big names last July, he stood his ground last year and this year when everyone wanted Mantha (and now Larkin.)  This may not be a Cup winning day for us, but it was definitely a playoff push move.  These guys bring experience that could push us further into the playoffs we have been since 2009.


Cheers to Ken Holland! Welcome to Hockeytown Erik and Marek!

#2539649 10/9 GDT : Bruins 1 at Red Wings 2.

Posted by Nightfall on 09 October 2014 - 11:12 PM

After reading for months on these forums about how members wanted the team to tank it and how the team was going to suck balls this year, I think most people have relaxed a bit.  This team is not horrible.  Boston was coming off a tough game last night, and the Wings really did play like they had the fresher legs.  Still, I was happy with the result.


Smith really did look good.  Franzen's play was much improved.  I really enjoy watching the kids out there.  They are gaining confidence and that is going to serve them well.  Can't wait to see them play on Saturday.

#2529391 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Son of a Wing on 02 July 2014 - 10:45 AM


You're right. Abdelkader, Glendenning, and Miller in rotating top 6 roles has cup written all over it (despite the fact all 3 would barely make the 4th line on most teams). 


We have some shining stars and glimmers of bright spots don't get me wrong, but the majority of our roster is an AHL team, plain and simple. Instead of finishing in the middle and possible BARELY squeezing in the playoffs just to get embarrassed, which accomplishes absolutely nothing, why not hope for a bottom finish and look forward to a high pick and org changes?

Now there's something to get excited about. 


How are Glendenning and Miller in rotating top 6 roles?? You realize forward depth is one of our strengths right?


Just because we didn't land a top defenceman doesn't turn half our roster into an AHL squad....


I'm as disappointed as anyone but some of you guys need a serious reality check...

#2519615 So what do we have to trade?

Posted by Richdg on 07 May 2014 - 02:20 PM

Howard isn't going anywhere and this is key, he is a better g than Miller is at this point in their careers. Miller playing on a better team sucked in the PO's. Howard had much better numbers vs the NHL's best team. Howard is not the issue. Our sucky D and yes his injuries were the issues this year.

#2494522 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by number9 on 11 March 2014 - 08:13 PM


I think you have lofty expectations.  Legwand has reached 60+ points in a season only once, and that was 8 seasons ago.  At age 33/34, do you expect him to suddenly get so much better?  And Franzen has never reached 60 points in a season in his entire career.

The word "could" does not mean I expect anything

Legwand has also been on pace for 60+ three separate seasons, and has never played in a system with good wingers until now. Franzen has been on pace for over 60 twice and is on pace for 70+ right now. So yeah it's something that "could" happen, especially if all this bad injury juju stops

#2492310 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 06 March 2014 - 11:05 PM

Oh my god guys relax... You do know we are back in 8th with games in hand on everyone chasing us... Also 5 pts back of TOR with 2 games in hand and 4 pts back of TB with a game in hand.



#2491704 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by wingsfan91 on 06 March 2014 - 02:07 PM

I think the only way to rationalize a trade is to look at it from 2 different approaches:


1. The current value of the player as an asset to his team. (defined by: NHL production, Tangible stats, Chemistry with other players.. ETC)

2. The potential value of the player as a long term asset to his team. (defined by: AHL/CHL/KHL production, Potential, Age, Skillset)


In the case of Calle Jarnkrok, you identify a player who had virtually no value to the Detroit Red Wings as a current asset. As Ken Holland stated, he was never going to make this team while Datysuk, Zetterberg, Weiss, Helm, Andersson and Glendenning were playing ahead of him. And based on his physical tools, we was never going to make this team as 3rd/4th line Center either - meaning he would have had to play in a top 6 Center role (although I am unsure of his ability to play either wing) which wasn't going to happen anytime soon.


As a long term asset, he would have continued to be affected by playing in an organization with a deep pool of players in front of him (at the same position) - that fact on its own brings substance to the idea of him playing in Europe. The problem for the Red Wings was continuing to limit his value as a long term asset by keeping him in the minors at the age of 22,23,24.. etc. Collaterally, you are limiting his "trade bait" potential by doing so. So while you are banking on him being a very good top 6 player one day, it also makes sense to maximize his long term value through trade.


Although I admit the returns for Vanek, Gaborik, Luongo and Moulson seemed to actually be less than what we traded for Legwand - the trade becomes a very good deal if David Legwand decides to re-sign in Detroit. Eaves is a healthy scratch right now and was gone in July, this years (mid-late) second round pick comes in a weak draft, and Jarnkrok has yet to play a shift in the NHL. David Legwand has had what I consider to be "deflated stats" playing in Nashville's system and can provide right now what Jarnkrok scouts think he might be able to provide one day.


Time will tell, but don't write off a guy who's been to the playoffs 22 years in a row, he may know more than we do.

#2491683 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Dave on 06 March 2014 - 01:18 PM


Sorry, I was under the impression that checkers/grinders are way easier to come by than bonafide skilled centers.


Silly me. 


NHL players are harder to come by than AHL players.

#2491606 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 06 March 2014 - 10:19 AM

Let's try this again.


Legwand is not a scrub, nor is he necessarily just a rental.


Jarnkrok hasn't proven anything and lots of prospects who are "for sure going to be great" never make it.  "Can't miss" prospects miss all the time.  Jarnkrok wasn't even a can't miss prospect.


They didn't trade Datsyuk or Zetterberg.  They traded a prospect.  Breathe.


How many good prospects that Holland has traded have done anything?  Fleishchmann.  If holland was willing to trade Jarnkrok for Legwand, he had a good reason.


What makes more sense, there was some truth to the Brynas rumors, or Holland traded a guy he thought would make it in the NHL in a panic move?