I've had season tickets since 1989. I've always been a die hard Pittsburgh Fan.
ALso --- I read a lot of the responses from your Red Wings fan. And it's more than apparent the majority of this board doesn't know hockey. They just wine and complain....about everything. Just because you've had a successful team for the most part, doesn't mean your not a bandwagoner. --See the Red Wings board for reference. (That's you guys)
The ratings don't lie by the way. There are some cases, like Boston, who have a huge population, skewe the numbers -- But for the most part they are accurate.
Considering how the city of Detroit is on a serious decline,(economically) I doubt Detroit will be on the rise in years to come. Unless you think Helm, Abdelkader, Filppula, Hudler and Franzen are the future of this team. Which they aren't btw. But, it will be hard to get good players to come Detroit because there isn't anythign there.
On a side note, I will certainly enjoy having a Cup team for as long as Crosby and Malkin are around. You guys better run your mouth now, because your times running out.
Ironically those two things came out of your argument. You do realize if it wasn't for Lemieux their would be no Penguins anymore right ? I mean he basically spent everything he had along with the cities money to keep them there because they knew after sucking for 6 years in return they would gain good draft picks. Penguins only exist because they bottomed out on purpose, I mean if your such a fan since '1989' you would know this. Oh and people have been saying our time is coming to an end for about two decades now, guess who's still dominating the league year in and year out. As polls take it (see CBC players poll), more players want to play with Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg than play with Crosby or Malkin, and would rather have a responsible GM that doesn't have to bottom the team out just to create a somewhat contender. Illitch > any owner.
I agree with you. The refs just didn't see the call. You know when a ref sees a high stick it is a penalty EVERY TIME. I was listening to the Hawks radio feed while driving through Chicago and the Franzen high stick happened. Even the announcers thought it was Franzen's own stick that caused it. The refs conferred and no one saw it.
Now, if you are advocating that the refs should look at instant replay to determine if there was an infraction, that is a different story. Just make sure you add on about 10-20 minutes of extra time per game for all the instant replays. Then also be ready to see the Wings get nailed for some calls that they otherwise would have gotten away with. I am ok with instant replay being used more often, especially in the cases of high sticking and waived off goals from goalie interference.
Could the games be called more consistently? I do. At the same time though, I do have to agree that the refs are being asked to do an impossible job. Call every game 100% accurately. That just isn't going to happen unless the system changes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...we get it. You've done some reffing and now you're a ref apologist. I've played some hockey. But I'm not going to excuse every s***ty play because hockey is hard.
No one expects the refs to be perfect. It is a tough job and mistakes will be made. But when a mistake is made people should ***** about it. NHL refs should be the best in the business. They should be striving for perfection. Should always be trying to improve.
If no one complains about the mistakes; if everything is always 'good enough' as you always seem to suggest, there's no incentive for improvement. If you just accept any mistake you remove any responsibility from the refs; then things are only going to get worse.
I don't even blame the refs themselves really. It's mostly the Bettman regime. There doesn't seem to be any expectation of improvement. They refuse to change stupid rules like 'intent to blow'. Goal reviews are wrong half the time. There seems to be a league mandate to make sure all the chinciest s*** gets called at least a few times each game; probably what is distracting the refs from noticing major stuff like blatant high-sticks and elbows. And I don't think anyone, anywhere, really even knows what interference is...or maybe the actual definition does change shift to shift.
...The current system is not a flawed system, ...
...We can both agree on the flawed system. ...
Heh. At least the inconsistency proves that you're a real ref.