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#2641892 12/08 GDT : Red Wings at Washington Capitals, 7:30 ET

Posted by Fonzarelli on 08 December 2015 - 10:36 PM

It wasn't the shootout that cost the game. That pathetic pp in overtime was the culprit. Needed Larkin then.

#2635606 11/6 GDT : Red Wings at Toronto Maple Leafs, 7:00 EST

Posted by sum1 on 06 November 2015 - 10:14 PM

Hey some of you should just enjoy the victory!



Maybe, or people need to start being honest with themselves and realize that with crappy play like tonight's display will not even come close to holding up against a real team. If it weren't for Z's garbage goal and Petr's awesome net minding, they would not have won the game.

#2629167 Cleary NOT reporting to Grand Rapids

Posted by 55fan on 09 October 2015 - 06:10 PM

This is what Maltby did a number of years ago.  Get a contract.  If it works out and he outplays the kids, then that's fine.  He deserves to be on the team.  If not, he retires and that's that.  Everyone was mad at Malts for hanging around until he retired.  Then everyone got some clarity and said, "Hey.  He was just giving it another shot." and all was well.


I don't blame Cleary or Holland.  In Holland's case, it was a win-win.  If Cleary REALLY outplayed the kids (as if) he's be icing the best team possible.  If Cleary didn't, then he'd either have a great guy in GR or he could let him go in peace.  In either case, giving the kids a little more competition never hurts, and they got the benefit of Cleary's teaching while he was there.  Remember that game when he and Larkin were on the bench after their shift?  Larkin was intent on what Cleary was explaining to him.  Since Cleary didn't play during the season, it didn't cost the Wings a dime.


In Cleary's case, it was a chance.  It was one more training camp.  One more pre-season.  One more time hearing the roar of the crowds and feeling the comradery in the locker room.  One last hurrah before skating off into the sunset.


I wish him well.  I will always remember him as the Guy Who Almost Lost an Eye Fighting Chris Elbowf***  Pronger.

#2629097 3-on-3 Lineups

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 October 2015 - 02:07 PM


Surely, you jest.


Not a big fan of the 3 on 3, so I'd go defensive just to boycott.  

#2629109 Cleary NOT reporting to Grand Rapids

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 October 2015 - 02:52 PM

Adding to the clusterf*** that is Pronger, not only is he still being paid as a player and as a NHL employee, he somehow managed to get elected into the HOF and he hasn't even retired yet! Now that is some back door, double secret, non-flag throwing back judge, anti-Lions s*** right there!


But, again, what did Cleary expect, did he actually believe he was going to make the team? That Holland was just saying he wasn't going to make it? Did he think, just because Blashill sounds like our former coach, that Blashill was actually him in disguise?  I guess when Danny Boy was shaking all those hands three years ago that he forgot to shake one future very important hand....Blashill's. Sorry Danny, you're out! You had a great run, don't feel bad!


Of course, this could have all been in the plan to get him in an office position. Sign him for $950,000, when he doesn't make the team, even though you let him think he may have a chance by giving him some looks in pre-season, then give him a video coach position or maybe be that guy who catches the sweaty gloves in the hall way after the periods and puts them all on the dryer's...

#2629104 Cleary NOT reporting to Grand Rapids

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 09 October 2015 - 02:32 PM

Okay, that seems to be the end of the Cleary saga. It was sort of a messy way to tie up his time here, but now we can get back to loving him for his contributions over the years. People have held a grudge against him in these recent years, but if you step back and think that it was because he had too much love for the organization that he couldn't think about playing anywhere else - that's pretty cool and rare in professional athletes. He'll probably take a Chelios-like position and help develop prospects. It also seems to me like he could develop into a coach and maybe take one of the GR assistant spots.


Anyway, Congrats on a great career Danny Boy! 938 Games, 387 points, consistently better in the playoffs (121 games, 52 points) 1st Newfoundland player to get his name on the cup in 2008. Give those knees a rest and enjoy watching the next generation of wings tonight!

#2628392 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 05 October 2015 - 11:27 AM

I knewwww it had a gut feeling he was gonna make it , kids are finally getting the chances with Blashill as coach

Now if he starts racking up the points there's no way they could send him down

Ummm what if he does so good in the top line we gotta keep larkin there ? Datsyuk centers 2nd line with Gus and Tatar?, sheahan goes to wing for this year?unless we make some moves if mule stays healthy he might have to go on the 4th line ... We might have the deepest 4 lines we've had in forever

Scary team this year and laughable these experts I seen on tv in montreal all took detroit 5th place and beyond in our division

When datsyuk returns ...

Zetterberg larkin abdelkader

Tatar datsyuk nyquist

Sheahan richards pulkkinen

Helm/jurco glendening Franzen

Miller cleary anderssen ...

When pavel returns and if larkin sticks unless someone good gets hurt we might have to depart with one of helm/jurco/pulkkinen

I'd package a helm/smith or prospect /high draft pick type deal for a byfuglien if possible or someone similar ... Our d is where we clearly need an upgrade

#2569665 Marek Zidlicky

Posted by Jersey Wing on 10 February 2015 - 07:09 PM

I did some checking and a week back Lyle Richardson mentioned the idea of Zidlicky to Detroit.

#2569663 Marek Zidlicky

Posted by Jesusberg on 10 February 2015 - 07:05 PM

Have there been any reports linking Zidlicky to Detroit... or anywhere, for that matter? It seems like New Jersey has been quiet, despite them being a sure-fire seller at the deadline. Their prospect cupboard is U.G.L.Y.

#2565547 Time for Teemu?

Posted by kipwinger on 22 January 2015 - 12:11 PM

He was listed as 194 Lbs.




Maybe he lost weight this year, cause they now list him at 183




This is one area where I'm a little skeptical of the listed stats, because reported weights fluctuate pretty significantly.  I can't tell you how much the kid weighs.  What I can say is, when I watched them play in Washington a couple weeks ago he was the tiniest guy on the ice.  Nyquist and Tatar looked significantly bigger by comparison.  Now, saying that, he doesn't look small and skinny like Landon Ferraro for instance, he looks small but more solid.  If you get this kid a nutritionist and pro-level workouts and I don't think 195-200 lbs of explosive muscle is out of the question.  And that, to me, really is the difference.  It's like Tatar last year (small and weaker) vs. Tatar this year (still smallish, but more powerful).  That's what I'd like to see out of Pulkkinen. 

#2565533 Time for Teemu?

Posted by kipwinger on 22 January 2015 - 11:04 AM

To me, the biggest thing he's going to have to do is get WAY stronger.  He's a little guy.  You don't realize it until you see him in person.  By comparison, Nyquist and Tatar look like big dudes.  Which, I assume, is because of their respective fitness levels.  I don't even really care if he gains weight (which he probably will), as long as he just gets WAY stronger.  He's got a really low center of gravity, so if he does put on some muscle and/or add some power, he'll win a lot of the battles he loses.  


Other than his shot, there are a few things I really like about his game.  He's got good first step quickness.  He can jump on loose pucks and find open spots on the ice as a result.  He's also pretty defensively responsible.  I noticed him backtracking and checking his coverage a lot.  Finally, I really like his aggressiveness.  He doesn't play pensive, at all.  He jumps into scrums, battles on the boards, and will put his body on the line to make a play.  He battles, he's just too weak to win the battles right now.  But he's definitely not afraid.


He's got an alpha mentality, but right now beta strength.  If he can be an explosive 195-200 lbs. (which I don't think is unrealistic given his frame), I think he'll be a really exciting player because he doesn't lack much else. 

#2565524 Time for Teemu?

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 22 January 2015 - 09:19 AM

Overall, I think I was happy with the way Teemu played during his call up. Better than last season's 3 games for sure. I still think he was over anxious to shoot at times, although that's probably a product of the fact that all everyone has been talking about is his slapshot, how good it is, and how he's the next Brett Hull. 


Still, he certainly didn't look out of place, and played reasonably well defensively. IMO, he's gotta make quicker decisions with the puck, cause a couple times he turned it over because he took too long. That being said, i was super happy for him when he scored. Here's hoping we see him back soon. We need that right hand shot and his bomb.


Can you imagine if in a couple years time we could line up Sproul and Pulkkinen at the point of the power play? 

#2565534 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by Jesusberg on 22 January 2015 - 11:25 AM

I would consider trading Smith in a package for Green, if and only if we knew he would resign. There is no way I give up Smith plus the assets it would take to get Green here for just a few short months. Especially considering I don't think we're that close to being a "favorite" to win the Cup this year. I do believe we're a contender but I don't think Green puts us over the top into the "favorites" conversation... For the same reason, I wouldn't trade away any major assets for the number one defenseman I'd like to have that will be available, Cody Franson. Not worth it if they're going to walk in the summer, and they both probably would want to test the open market, considering they will be on 20+ teams wishlist. I'd also like to have Wisniewski, and to a lesser extent, Bogosian, Wideman or Byfuglien...



I completely understand this logic. Even though they're not the exact same situation, it's unfortunate that we gave up Jarnkrok for a rental.

I think this situation is a bit different, though. I can't imagine Holland not doing every thing in his power to retain Green if we managed to trade for him. Babcock is high on Green, and the team sorely lacks someone like him on the back-end. I believe that Holland would be able to sign him, and at a fair cap hit to boot. There are definitely some risks involved - is Green looking to cash in, what kind of term does he want? I think it would be worth the risk, personally.

Also, I wouldn't mind landing Franson in the off-season. He'll more than likely be cheaper than Green, and he doesn't have the injury concerns. As always, it's just going to be interesting to see how Holland would shuffle players around to make room for a UFA.

#2565356 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by Yzerfan87 on 21 January 2015 - 03:15 AM

Wow people are really reaching for this Smith is useless bulls***... First of all Brendan Smith is just as good as Jeff Petry right now, and he has a lot higher ceiling... and you're suggesting trading Smith AND a mid level prospect AND a pick for Petry? Are you kidding me? The blind hate on Smith is getting beyond ridiculous... Petry will go for a couple picks and you want to throw all that in for him?...
Petry is getting top line minutes in Edmonton, while Smith is getting third line minutes in Detroit, and yet he still isn't producing a significant amount more than Smith. Petry is producing at a 0.22% points per game pace, while Smith is producing at a 0.17% points per game pace. Not a huge difference for a player making over double the salary... Petry has also played an additional 36 minutes more on the power-play than Smith has this season. With those kinds of minutes on the man advantage, you would think he would be producing a LOT more, he is not at all. Let's have a look at their career points shall we? Believe it or not, Smith is actually producing at a slightly higher clip than Petry... Smith has 41 points in 160 games (0.256%) while Petry has 69 points in 281 games (0.245%).
You blame Smith for being a turnover machine, but Petry has over double the number of giveaways as Smith but he also has twice as many takeaways... Petry may be a little better defensively, hitting more and blocking more shots, but that stat is almost as skewed as the +/- stat, which Smith is obviously superior, playing for a better team, Smith is even and Petry is a -21. The only upside Petry has over Smith in my opinion, is that he is a right handed shot. Is that reason enough to make the trade? Hell no!

The way I see it is Kronwall and DK are the only absolute keepers on our blue line. We want a top 4 RHD, but we also have multiple kids who could be NHL ready in a couple years. While I would say Smith is the 3rd, or maybe 4th best dman we have, he's tradable. Petry vs Smith is pretty even right now, but we still have the log jam. We need to lose 2 or 3 of Smith, Kindl, Ericcson, and Quincey. When Quincey's contract is up, he needs to be let go. But if we only lose Kindl, Oulette still does not have a place. Smith then is the most tradable player on our defense. If we can get Petty+3rd for Smith and maybe the rights to that kid that bolted back to Sweden, we're basically breaking even, and then if we can unload Kindl for a 5th, we have Oulette up. The problem I see though is that Quincey is only good when paired with DK. So Petry would end up with Oulette on the 3rd. I'd prefer to have DK paired with Perry, but I don't trust Quincey playing with a rookie either.

#2565375 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 January 2015 - 09:02 AM

We need to lose 2 or 3 of Ericsson, Quincey, Smith and Kindl?? Seriously? Why? To make room for the kids? I'm going to say this again, no matter how high some of us are on the kids coming up from Grand Rapids (Ouellet, Sproul, Jensen, Marchenko) none are an upgrade over what we have, aside from Kindl. So why would replace Smith with one of them? I want to see the kids up as much as the next guy, but not at the expense of a better player. The only player I would replace with one of the kids is Kindl. As it stands right now, he is the only player in our top 6 that can be upgraded internally. If we're looking to make a trade, why not just package Kindl, one of our "awesome" defense prospects, another prospect and a pick for a top 4 right handed defenseman? That would make our back end significantly better, without losing a player like Smith. Petry is not an upgrade over Smith, so why would you make such a lateral move? Just for the sake of making a trade?... No thanks!

Because that probably doesn't get us a Top 4, RHD... unless you're looking at someone like Zidlicky or maaaybe Dennis Wideman. 

Sometimes, I think you believe people just want to move Smith because they don't like him. It's possible that some do, but a lot of people suggest it for practical purposes (me). He's in a position of being at a good age, affordable, and still having potential that other teams might bite on. I'm of the belief that this team needs to add an experienced, offensive presence on the back end. You're not moving Kronwall or DeKeyser, and Quincey, Ericsson, Kindl and Lashoff don't have as much appeal (perhaps Ericsson does to a GM who hasn't watched hockey this season, and maybe Quincey to one who has). I truly believe Smith is the only guy who may have the appeal to land a true offensive defender.

I get it, I really do. You like Smith and think he has Top 4 upside. The problem is that he's still only showing flashes, and that Babcock does NOT seem to trust him. Do you honestly think that Babcock is going to use him in a Top 4 role?

Let me tell you a story. I had an irrational love for Kyle Calder when he was traded here. I was like, "whoa... that dude comes out hard from the corners and attacks the net." I just looked it up right now and he had something like 14 points in 19 games. He has a soul patch - I should have known better. Don't go down the Kyle Calder road, man.