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In Topic: Surgery for Kyle Quincey

11 November 2015 - 03:14 PM

time to make a trade for a soild top 4 no doubt now need to makes some moves if AA plays lights out do we possibly move Helm and ? for a nice repleacement for Q


...or give Marchenko a minute to see if he's capable of filling that role before you bury him back in GR.

In Topic: Is Dylan Larkin a lock to stay in the NHL beyond 9-games?

26 October 2015 - 07:18 PM

Why do I get the feeling Larkin will get sent down, and Cleary comes back to Detroit?


Stop it right now, Evil Ken Holland.  Get back in your box.

In Topic: Looking ahead to expansion draft ... If Vegas comes to the nhl etc

24 June 2015 - 05:20 PM

The rules were changed for every expansion draft from San Jose to Columbus/Minnesota.  Who knows what they'll be whenever the league expands again.. I'm sure it'll depend on how many teams are being added.  This would also be the first expansion since the salary cap was instituted, so I wonder if teams would be required to expose a contract or two above a certain threshold, to help ensure teams reach the salary floor...

There were also rules for minimum number of NHL games played, so most young players were exempt from the draft.

In Topic: Report: Cleary wants to return for 1 more season

13 June 2015 - 07:21 PM


I wasn't citing only an anonymous freep tweet, I was citing an anonymous NHL source that confirmed the freep tweet, hence two anonymous sources lol.


Of couse I read your entire post, if I am going to respond back with a difference of opinion I am going to make sure I know what I am responding to. There is no lack of "sinking in" needed here. I 100% fully understand your opinion and understand why you have it, I simply dont agree with you.


I feel like using the term common sense is a slight way of taking a shot at me for not agreeing with you, as there is no easier way to attack someone's stance/opinion then saying that the reason why they don't agree with you is due to a lack of intelligence or lack of comprehension. That's fine, but I am not going to go down that road. You want to understand my logic in believing the story, here it is:


- Philadelphia is nototious for making stupid moves. Any other team I probably would not believe it, but this is a team that traded JVR for Schenn, Hartnell for Umberger and numerous other horrible moves that I don't feel like looking up. I think this point is shown.


- I believe Ken Holland's biggest strength is his eye for talent. In the case of Cleary, I have to wonder why he would give him a (1.5 - 2.5mil) contract when it was obvious to everyone that the guy was done. I don't believe Holland is bad GM, and I don't believe that he was unaware of Cleary's diminishing skillset/health, I believe that he made the signing due to the loyalty Cleary showed him in turning down the Philly contract. If Holland signs him again to a one year deal, then I definitely believe it. I know Holland makes mistakes, I am not saying the guy is perfect, but there was not really any upside with Cleary last year and especially not this year. (He does bring leadership, and he does just take a press box spot, but 2.5mil is way to much for that)


- I don't see why HSJ would just make this up, why an anonymous source would lie when confirming it, or why NBC sports would make up an anonymous source confirming it. It's such a small story, there is no reason to lie about this. Its not a story that is going to "get clicks". To me it makes more sense that Philly offered this contract, received backlash for another bonehead move, then denied it. 


Again, I AM NOT saying that the contract is 100% true, I am saying that I think it is true.


I don't think that's the case anymore.  Holland hasn't made a significant trade or free agent signing to improve the club in YEARS.  He's done things to hold back the influx of younger players.

Holland's greatest strengths... and I hold these in very high regard... are his ability to hire the right person for a job and to trust them to do their jobs.  He listens to his people and lets them do what they are being paid to do.  That's an excellent quality for someone running a franchise.

However, I think Holland's days as an effective GM are about done.  I don't think he can or will make the necessary roster moves to put the Wings back on top.


Holland for President (and not GM).

In Topic: Report: Cleary wants to return for 1 more season

09 June 2015 - 02:08 PM


Because prior to the 2013/14 season the Flyers offered Cleary a 3 year deal. Cleary turned it down for a 1 year deal with the Wings on a handshake agreement that he would get a deal in each of the next two off seasons (equaling the Flyers 3 year deal). Holland is simply keeping his word which he should. Signing Cleary now is not a mistake, if anything the handshake deal was the mistake.


Philly denies ever having offered any contract, only a tryout.  The only ones talking about the rumored 3-year Philly deal are Cleary and Holland.  Also, how is the "handshake deal" and "promise to take care of" Cleary allowed under the CBA?  Teams are not allowed to discuss multiple one-year deals.  Could be considered cap circumvention.

Besides, it's plainly obvious to everyone except Cleary and Holland that Cleary is DONE, and has been for 3 years.