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Official Game Day Thread - - Tonights's Matchup - - VS. Start time: 7:30 EST Joe Louis Arena - Detroit, MI Available On: Tonight's Stream http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/user/15741-drumnj/ (Directions in profile) Official Game Preview: Red Wings, Stars look to get back to winning ways - - *Opposition GDT* From HF Boards - - News from around the NHL Father and son disagree Queneville back at practice Backstrom, Bryzgalov rising Western Conference Standings Forthcoming STARS 60 GP, 31-23-6, 68 pts Last Game: Lost to NJ 1-0 RED WINGS 60 GP, 37-17-6, 80 pts Last Game: Lost to SJ 4-3 Last DET-DAL Meeting: 12/19, DET 7 at DAL 3 Recap - LGW GDT Highlights Goals DAL Brenden Morrow: 25 DET Johan Franzen: 26 Assists DAL Brad Richards: 39 DET Henrik Zetterberg: 48 Plus/Minus DAL Alex Goligoski: +20 DET Brian Rafalski: +16 ---- DAL Jamie Langenbrunner: -16 DET Patrick Eaves: -2 PIM DAL Steve Ott: 136 DET Jonathan Ericsson: 62 Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi Hudler-Datsyuk-Cleary Draper-Helm-Miller Holmstrom-Abdelkader-Mursak Lidstrom-Stuart Ericsson-Rafalski Kronwall-Salei Projected DAL Lines Morrow-Ribeiro-Eriksson Ott-Benn-Vincour Williams-Wandell-Langenbrunner Gagnon-Petersen-Sutherby Goligoski-Robidas Woywitka-Daley Fistric-Skrastins Kari Lehtonen Record: 23-18-6, 2.66 GAA, .914 SV%, 0 SO ---- versus. ---- Jimmy Howard Record: 30-11-3, 2.79 GAA, .908 SV%, 2 SO STARS Nicklas Grossman (lower body) out, Brad Richards (concussion) out, Raymond Sawada (head) out ---- RED WINGS Patrick Eaves (knee) out, Valtteri Filppula (MCL sprain) out, Chris Osgood (groin) out, Mike Modano (severed tendon) out On Deck 2/28, Red Wings at Sabres ; 7:00 EST

I believe this is a must win game. Only reason is that our home record is not nearly good enough and we need our opponents to have the fear they used to have going into the JLA.

Big win for the Wings. Hopefully just Datsyuk and Cleary don't show up.

That's exactly the point, even right now when he's only scoring at the pace he is you're just flat out wrong. Trust me, no one is trying to convince you to like him. You, and any one else, can dislike whomever you want. No one will tell you any different. But when posters come on here and blindly ignore facts and start screaming their heads off about how he's lazy and he sucks it's ridiculous. You can hate him all you want but when you can't admit how well he's doing right now it just shows your ignorance.

It's a positive rep frenzy!!!!

Agreed that Detroit needs to dominate. The stars are doing a nose drive and they just lost a huge future star in Neal. I want this baby to be an offensive FRENZY!!!! Wings 5-1

Thanks HT! Was getting worried there for a second. Let's rebound from the last game. Wins are more fun I have found so lets go ahead and start a new streak. No predictions as I will be there but a solid 60 minutes and maybe a hatty. Just win!

Wow... I wish i had that much free time...

1st in wins 28th in SV% 31st GAA These stats, for any goalie would lead me to believe: This goalie is starting too many games, this goalie has a GREAT team in front of him, this goalie is easily replaceable due to the team in-front of him. Take the name of the player and I feel you'll come to the exact same conclusion I have.

For crying out loud, I called him inconsistent, not terrible. Calm yourself.

Posters on this board are never happy. Take a look at Holmstrom's stat lines from the last 4 years (including this years). For what he has earned and the number of games he has played he has been well worth it. On top of that think of how much goals he has created and not been credited with a point (through screens, driving the net, puck retrieval etc.) 2007-2008 Red Wings GM 59 G 20 A 20 PTS 40 +/- 9 2008-2009 Red Wings GM 53 G 14 A 23 PTS 37 +/- 18 2009-2010 Red Wings GM 68 G 25 A 20 PTS 45 +/- 5 2010-2011 Red Wings GM 51 G 12 A 14 PTS 26 +/- -1 Now poster's want to complain that Zetterberg isn't potting as many goals as he should be. That is absurd. He is getting paid to create goals - whether he is the guy putting the puck in the net or assisting on them. That's on top of being a leader of this team and being one of the premier two way players in the league. He is on pace for: GM 82 G 24 A 65 PTS 89 +/- +10 Yeah, we'd all love if he scored more goals but 86 pts would be his second most productive season in his career. Not to mention that he put this team on his back while Datsyuk was injured. He is currently 5th in the NHL in scoring (pts) and 3rd in the NHL assists. He is one of the best leaders in the game and yet posters are 'irked' by him. Posters are still hating on Hudler despite his turn around from his terrible start to the regular season. He has now registered 22 pts (5 g, 17 a) in his last 25 games and during that stretch he is a +8. So many posters here attribute his success completely to Datsyuk's return which is completely unfair. Prior to Datsyuk's return Hudler had 12 pts (3 g, 9 a) in 17 games. Obviously Datsyuk deserves some credit has since his return Hudler has put up 10 pts (2g, 8 a) in 8 games and we should all be pumped about that but there are so few people on this site that give players credit where credit is due.

Even taking into account how well Hudler has been playing lately, if you don't think Hemsky would be an upgrade over Hudler I don't believe the ensuing conversation would really be necessary.

So does this mean Vanek and Miller share the same face

The lack of options on defense disappoints me.

Upshall was guaranteed expecting Bartulis to possibly touch the puck, he had the timing down and bartulis did reach to touch the puck in Bobrovsky's glove, if the puck would have some how come out and landed on Bartulis's stick it would have been a good hit. It happens A LOT maybe you need to pay attention more, I have seen Stuey and Bertuzzi both do it in the past. And I said instances similar to this occur, though Upshall really got him good, it was a HUGE collision by any standard.

lets not let facts get in the way... last 25 games: 5G 18A 23PTS +8

Oh snap! hudler getting called out! lol he's picking it up.

That's the way I'm looking at it, would I scoff at him coming here as a FA try-out? Not one bit... but to take on a contract, or sign him as a FA... no thanks.

be interesting to see if garth snow takes this opportunity to "improve his team" again...

Wrong. He has battled plenty. Also he is the sniper of the line and his job is to get into the right areas to score. That's how he has gotten his chances, they just haven't gotten in. You should work for the NHL with that kind of stat taking. My point was the hilarity of some Wings fans. If you honestly dog Franzen for his effort then you really must have hated the multi-goal games he had where he did pretty much the same thing. Thank you for completely missing the point behind the comparison. If you honestly think he is a wasted top 6 player you are going to have a rough next few years while Franzen is scoring 30+ goals consistently and getting the points in the playoffs while playing "lazy".

For a guy who skates like Homer, it's no surprise he's not contributing playing with Abdelkader and Miller. Once Fil and Modano are back and we can roll 3 scoring lines, I expect Homer will be better. Honestly, i've liked his game lately. He's made smart passes, played good defence. I think he'll be fine. Franzen is more of a piss off for me, he's playing with talent and scoring no goals.

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I can understand people not liking him as a player but taking pot shots at a guy for getting help because he wants to make his life better is pretty low. Tootoo has been battling with alcoholism since 2002 after his brother committed suicide. Maybe some of you have never seen a family member or friend deal with substance abuse/behavioral problems but its sad and often tragic. Im sure no one on these boards was calling McCarty a low life when he was dealing with substance abuse, went bankrupt because of a gambling addiction and divorced his wife.