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GMR has nailed it. If that is your criteria, then only a handful of players drafted during the Bettman era will make the HOF. One only has to look at the list of total NHL points, I think Thornton is the highest ranked Bettman era player and he was something like 37th last time I checked. The list is dominated by guys drafted in the 70s and 80s. Under your criteria, all the accumulators who played in the 80s will get in ahead of the superstars of the 21st century, which is just wrong. Plus Pav's points can't be looked at in isolation, the guy won 3 consecutive Selke's whilst averaging 92 points and winning a cup. He's a top-10 all time defensive forward. Throw in his jaw dropping playstyle and he is just a unique player.

Hey all, I live in Iowa which is about the most hockey deprived state around. We have the Des Moines Bucs and the Iowa Wild and that is it. What DRW blogs or apps do you use to keep up the team? I have the DRW app on my phone that I use frequently. I use to have Nightmare on Helm Street but for some reason they quit updating that. Are there any other good places to frequent for DRW discussion? Just wanted to find more DRW info because I love this team and can't get enough of them. Thanks in advance.

Ya, two of the best players in the league aren't comparable to two of the best players of the league. They were in a much higher scoring league then the one z and d grew up in, no one will ever rack up the points those guys did anymore. But we replaced them with some "possible top 6 complimentary pieces"

I remember when z and d would never turn into Stevie and feds...

But like I asked earlier in this thread, then who do you want? There's not going to be any good GMs on the chopping block this year. Maybe Poile if things go bad? I really doubt Illitch is going to hire some upstart nobody from somewhere else, and there's no one in our organization that can fill Holland's shoes at the moment. If Nill or Yzerman were still around this would be a different story. In that sense maybe we should be blame Mr. I, not Holland, for not letting Holland go sooner and promoting one of those guys. People are mad we're not letting him walk, but forget that we have to replace him with someone. And GM of the Red Wings are HUGE shoes to fill.

As was datsyuk. They were "small soft euros" and they turned into two of the best nil players of their time. Other teams get lucky with one guy on their team drafted late that turned into a star. The wings however have stocked the shelves with great talents I'n late rounds and won a cup. We have nyquist, Tatar, and possibly others coming up now that "we just got lucky with" and we had filppula and hudler before too. We are very good at late round drafts and we don't have to rank to win. Its the one thing I can't knock Holland for. That being said I think he shouldn't have been extended still.

Have people forgotten that Fedorov played defense, scored 56 goals while winning the Selke, and often played with Shawn Burr on a TKO line shadowing the opposition's top players? Fedorov was a BEAST on both ends of the ice. He was very much a complete player.

Here's a good, long thread from HFboards back in 2012, talking about Datsyuk's HOF status. http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1121269 I think he gets in. If 1,000 points is the criteria, there won't be many guys making the HOF after Crosby, Ovechkin and Malkin retire. How many 1,000 point players do you think the future generations will produce? Not much I think. Doesn't mean there won't be guys making the Hall of Fame anymore.

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