Florida Wants Hudler For Bertuzzi

[Louisville 112]

No, my point is that Bertuzzi could have just as easily killed Moore. Doesn't that mean anything to any of you. People are charged with crimes. It does matter if they meant to do it or if they didn't mean to do it. BUT they are still charged. A man could have been killed and most of you just say "he didn't mean to do it, doesn't matter"

Bertuzzi was punished by not being able to play for his team in the playoffs and even into the next season. He broke down crying in his apologizes for the incident. What else do you want the guy to do, give Moore half his paycheck for the rest of his career?

[Cruiser008 37]

So you're perfectly comfortable giving up Hudler and a 1st rounder for a guy that hasn't skated in months?

Hudler yes; 1st Rounder, Hell no!

For the past three seasons Detroit has taken the same route and failed miserably every time. I can't believe people are unwilling to give up Hudler to try a different path.

Finally!

Two concerns about Bertuzzi:

1. Is he really healthy? I'd like some proof before we do anything.

2. He has always struck me as a locker room cancer. Anybody else get that vibe?

1. That's why we would throw a conditional draft pick, conditional on Bert's health.

2. NO. Gretzky picked him for the Olympic team.... Crosby didn't even make it.

Bertuzzi was punished by not being able to play for his team in the playoffs and even into the next season. He broke down crying in his apologizes for the incident. What else do you want the guy to do, give Moore half his paycheck for the rest of his career?

Steve Moore's family and lawyers think that's a great idea.

[wingslogo19 281]

Hudler yes; 1st Rounder, Hell no!

Finally!

1. That's why we would throw a conditional draft pick, conditional on Bert's health.

2. NO. Gretzky picked him for the Olympic team.... Crosby didn't even make it.

Steve Moore's family and lawyers think that's a great idea.

I agree 100% with your applause

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

2. NO. Gretzky picked him for the Olympic team.... Crosby didn't even make it.

Thank goodness they qualified for the medal rounds, that showed all those Crosby lovers what's what!

Todd led the way with a dandy three assists to boot... man, what a Canadian hero.

[BlakChamber 8]

Enough discussion the Bertuzzi/Moore incident. It's been rehased ad nausea and it never ends well.

[gbdet 0]

Well, I'd like to point out a few things too. First of all, you aren't the only one entitled to an opinion on Bertuzzi's past. Yes, we want someone who will stick up for his teamates, but not someone who will injure with malice ending another's career. Oh, and yes, I've heard the arguement, it was only Steve Moore, he wasn't much of a hockey player anyway. So, does that mean it is ok for Bertuzzi to decide when his career ends? No, league should have been able to decide his value. The funniest part about all of this is that because Bertuzzi did it to an average player, playing for one of our rivals, the incident is of no consequence. I'm sure attitudes about picking up Bertuzzi would be completely different if he had done that to a Wing, say Yzerman or Zetterberg. I really have nothing else to say about the Bertuzzi incident.

If management decides to pick him up I will support this team as always. If they do pick him up I hope he turns out to be exactly what this team needs and not another disappointing trade.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bertuzzi would be a deterrent to other players taking cheap shots at our stars, but he won't be their shadow constantly. Just having him does not mean neither Zetterberg or Datsyuk get injured. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he usually retalliate for a hit on a teammate. Retalliation means the damage has already been done. How is having Bertuzzi going to prevent injuries.

My argument was NOT "It's only Steve Moore"

My argument was

"The guy made a mistake. He 's got to live with it forever. He was sticking up for his teamate(WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT) and he went overboard. He apologized and he served his sentence. I don't believe for a second that he intentionally tried to break his neck."

I realize I'm Not "the only one entitled to an opinion on Bertuzzi's past" I was just stating my opinion.

If you want to harrass the guys the rest of his life for ONE mistake then so be it.

and like I said he broke his neck-YES

did he mean too-NO

do people make mistakes-YES

do hockey players get injured sometimes-YES

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bertuzzi would be a deterrent to other players taking cheap shots at our stars, but he won't be their shadow constantly. Just having him does not mean neither Zetterberg or Datsyuk get injured. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he usually retalliate for a hit on a teammate. Retalliation means the damage has already been done. How is having Bertuzzi going to prevent injuries"

There are ALWAYS going to be cheap shots no matter how many "tough guys" you have. But having Bertuzzi would make people think twice about cheap shots and YES just having him in our lineup would mean that there would be LESS cheap shots, but not eliminate them all together.

"The funniest part about all of this is that because Bertuzzi did it to an average player, playing for one of our rivals, the incident is of no consequence. I'm sure attitudes about picking up Bertuzzi would be completely different if he had done that to a Wing, say Yzerman or Zetterberg. I really have nothing else to say about the Bertuzzi incident. "

This also goes both ways... I'm sure that if Steve Moore borderline cheap shoted Yzerman and gave him a concussion, then Bertuzzi came to Yzerman's aid and went overboard. I bet that you would see things a little different as well.

"If Hudler turns out to be better than Datsyuk, then it will all be forgotten because Filppula will then turn out to be the new Sid Crobsy.

Seriously, if Hudler ever turns out to be the next Datsyuk, then we can save ourselves the 5 years of Hudler's playoff busts"

LOL

[Mighty Wings 0]

Thank goodness they qualified for the medal rounds, that showed all those Crosby lovers what's what!

Todd led the way with a dandy three assists to boot... man, what a Canadian hero.

Wow. So, Based on that logic, ryan smyth was probably a total dud with a grand total of 1 assist

Edited February 20, 2007 by Mighty Wings

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Wow. So, Based on that logic, ryan smyth was probably a total dud with a grand total of 1 assist

I know man, aren't we (well, they, go Team USA) glad they had him instead of Sidney?

Really, I was just pointing out how stupid that Olympics remark was.

[Mighty Wings 0]

I know man, aren't we (well, they, go Team USA) glad they had him instead of Sidney?

Really, I was just pointing out how stupid that Olympics remark was.

point taken.

[Cruiser008 37]

Thank goodness they qualified for the medal rounds, that showed all those Crosby lovers what's what!

Todd led the way with a dandy three assists to boot... man, what a Canadian hero.

You're right that Bertuzzi sucked in the Olympics (so did most of Canada). But that wasn't my point. My point is that if Bertuzzi had a reputation as being a cancer he wouldn't have been chosen since there were other talented options available.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

You're right that Bertuzzi sucked in the Olympics (so did most of Canada). But that wasn't my point. My point is that if Bertuzzi had a reputation as being a cancer he wouldn't have been chosen since there were other talented options available.

Well, we could sit here all day and argue about the 2006 Canadian Olympic Team, but rest assured, the choice of Todd Bertuzzi over Sidney Crosby is not one that casts a negative light on the latter because he "didn't even make it."

The comparison to Sid is what really got my goat. I couldn't care less if he's a locker room cancer or not; Detroit has a way or whipping those guys into shape anyhow.

[sibiriak 84]

If Hudler turns out to be better than Datsyuk, then it will all be forgotten because Filppula will then turn out to be the new Sid Crobsy.

Seriously, if Hudler ever turns out to be the next Datsyuk, then we can save ourselves the 5 years of Hudler's playoff busts.

<sigh> Lets not exaggerate. Datsyuk could be blamed for three "playoff busts" at most. And he only played in 4 NHL playoff series in his life.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

<sigh> Lets not exaggerate. Datsyuk could be blamed for three "playoff busts" at most. And he only played in 4 NHL playoff series in his life.

Don't get too hard on Dats. It took the whole team to selfdestruct in those bursts.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Corey Perry is worth more than Hudler. So Anaheim will most likely get Bertuzzi if they want him. But really though, Bertuzzi hasn't played since October, so really I could care less if we lose out to Anaheim.

[sibiriak 84]

Bertuzzi was punished by not being able to play for his team in the playoffs and even into the next season. He broke down crying in his apologizes for the incident. What else do you want the guy to do, give Moore half his paycheck for the rest of his career?

At least some money in compensation would be nice.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

At least some money in compensation would be nice.

considering he effectively ended Moore's ability to play hockey at any level, it seems fair.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

At least some money in compensation would be nice.

Moore took it to a civil case, i'm sure that was the idea... That happened awhile ago, so I'm not sure they just settled outside of court or not

Alright, this wasn't too long ago. but read this article, it happened about five days ago http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=155012&hubname=

seems like he is looking for a pretty penny, 15 Mill could be like half of Bertuzzi's career earnings

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Edited February 20, 2007 by Mudvayneowns91

[RyanBarnes! 293]

Corey Perry is worth more than Hudler. So Anaheim will most likely get Bertuzzi if they want him. But really though, Bertuzzi hasn't played since October, so really I could care less if we lose out to Anaheim.

Anaheim isn't parting with Perry to land Bertuzzi.

[betterREDthandead 58]

Anaheim isn't parting with Perry to land Bertuzzi.

Agreed, as well they shouldn't. I'd trade five Hudlers for Corey Perry. HUGE part of the Ducks' future.

[sibiriak 84]

Moore took it to a civil case, i'm sure that was the idea... That happened awhile ago, so I'm not sure they just settled outside of court or not

Alright, this wasn't too long ago. but read this article, it happened about five days ago http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=155012&hubname=

seems like he is looking for a pretty penny, 15 Mill could be like half of Bertuzzi's career earnings

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That article is a year old. That suit did not go forward in ONT, something about jurisdiction. So far the score is: Moore has a broken neck and can't play hockey, Bertuzzi... cried on TV and was sentenced to a few days of probation and community service, IIRC.

Edited February 20, 2007 by sibiriak

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

That article is a year old. That suit did not go forward in ONT, something about jurisdiction. So far the score is: Moore has a broken neck and can't play hockey, Bertuzzi... cried on TV and was sentenced to a few days of probation and community service, IIRC.

God, you're right. Still use to seeing 06 as the year. Glad to see that our court system fais like usual

[BeeRYCE 2]

Why are so many people opposed to Hudler for Bertuzzi straight up? Many people forget who Bertuzzi is, no not a cheap shotting con artist, but a physical presence who can score goals.

[Rmac111 2]

Take what you want from this, but a buddy of mine works for a large hockey publication and said that he was told that the Wings are the final stages of trading for Todd Bertuzzi in exchange for Igor Grigorenko and a first round pick. If its true it sounds good to me!

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Take what you want from this, but a buddy of mine works for a large hockey publication and said that he was told that the Wings are the final stages of trading for Todd Bertuzzi in exchange for Igor Grigorenko and a first round pick. If its true it sounds good to me!

I question the validity of Grigs in there, but the first rounder sounds accurate.

Edit: Spelling

Edited February 20, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25

[BlakChamber 8]

God, you're right. Still use to seeing 06 as the year. Glad to see that our court system fais like usual

Because the Colorado court determined that jurisdiction isn't proper in Colorado, the court system failed? You make no sense.