IDLE19 3 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/secti...gory=SPORTS0103 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 although this topic is like beating a dead horse, I agree with the article 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Yes, Yes! I'd take 6 Detroit and Toronto/Habs games in one year over 20 Nashville games. No comparison, Detroit vs Toronto is the best rilvary going back in Redwing History. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMICHdave 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Yes, Yes! I'd take 6 Detroit and Toronto/Habs games in one year over 20 Nashville games. No comparison, Detroit vs Toronto is the best rilvary going back in Redwing History. Period. I was telling my friends last night that they should do a Wings/Leafs game at Michigan Stadium. Probably the only match-up that would come close to selling out 110k seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 I'd rather have the Leafs come back west than have the Wings go east. Overall I don't like that many teams in the Eastern conference, and I would miss playing teams like Vancouver, Dallas, and Colorado as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scsgoal31 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Ahhhhh...stop with this topic! Sorry, I'm so tired of hearing the same responses on this topic. Rant over..back to the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut 25 5 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 That would suck for me as I get 4 Wings games out here because of the Ducks and Kings and have traveled to Nashville the past 2 seasons to see the Wings as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Last night on Hockey Night in Canada, they were saying that Pittsburgh is probably going to get a new arena deal, so don't expect the Wings to move East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Ahhhhh...stop with this topic! Sorry, I'm so tired of hearing the same responses on this topic. Rant over..back to the game. then don't read them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 Haha, I was getting worried, ... it has been a solid 2 1/2 weeks since this last came up. And ... NO!!! I know that is nothin more than my own opinion. Detroit has been and still is very important to the western conference. I believe in one of the past threads about this topic it was pretty solidly determined that Columbus would be moving east if that were to happen. I thought Detroit's game vs. Toronto was incredibly entertaining this year, and I think an effort should be made during the summer when considering reschedueling, to have teams with historical importance (like those two) to play eachother more even without a conference shift. Consider this guys ... If Pitts does move, our division will have Nashville, Kansas City, and Detroit. We will have a kick ass division to watch. Lots of entertainment, heated battles fighting for playoff spots. Could be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Can someone please tell me why playing the other original teams means absolutely anything anymore??? It did way back when...how are those rivalries any different now than the Colorado rivalry?? People need to realize that the games against them are not more exciting than any other game. I'm sorry but the games against Toronto and Montreal were nothing special this year. I'll pick staying in the West and watching Crosby/Malkin/Staal 8 times a year than facing the players on Montreal, Toronto, Boston, and New York any day of the week. Edited March 11, 2007 by WhiteLightning91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jwo 7 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 That would suck for me as I get 4 Wings games out here because of the Ducks and Kings and have traveled to Nashville the past 2 seasons to see the Wings as well. You could always move to Michigan. Last night on Hockey Night in Canada, they were saying that Pittsburgh is probably going to get a new arena deal, so don't expect the Wings to move East. That's what I heard four months ago and still no progress. Can someone please tell me why playing the other original teams means absolutely anything anymore??? It did way back when...how are those rivalries any different now than the Colorado rivalry?? People need to realize that the games against them are not more exciting than any other game. I'm sorry but the games against Toronto and Montreal were nothing special this year. I'll pick staying in the West and watching Crosby/Malkin/Staal 8 times a year than facing the players on Montreal, Toronto, Boston, and New York any day of the week. I would rather have 7:30 P.M. gametime starts in regular and playoff season then watch Crosby/Malkin/Staal 8 times. Even though those guys are fun to watch but staying up past 1.a.m. to watch hockey isn't fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Ruff 47 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 From what I understand as this topic has developed over the past few months: Pittsburgh is not going to move..... I was leaning towards the side of hoping that they do move (I like change). However, it doesn't look like they will...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted March 11, 2007 That's what I heard four months ago and still no progress. They also said on CBC that we weren't hearing much BECAUSE they were making progress. The "impasse" seems to be working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) No thanks to the Eastern Conference, I like the West better. Plus as mentioned before, we're the top team in the West revenue wise and it wouldn't be healthy for the League to move us East. Seriously, other than the core team's fans, who's going to pay any attention to the Western Conference if the Wings move East? All the best markets will be in one Conference (Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Philly, NYR, Boston,). I really hope the media will stop writting/talking about this. The League itself has said the Wings are to important to the West, Develano has agreed to it as well. Columbus would be the team to move. What the League needs to do is go back to the pre-lockout schedule. They also said on CBC that we weren't hearing much BECAUSE they were making progress. The "impasse" seems to be working. The city of Pittsburgh would be a bunch of idiots if they let Crosby and Malkin go. They'll get something done. Edit: The Pens are guaranteed to win a couple Championships in the near future. Edited March 12, 2007 by Barrie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Can someone tell me if they think having Detroit in the east would be be better, worse or the same for the NHL overall. Meaning, would it sell more tickets out East and/or less in the West. Face it, people flock to see the Wings, especially out East. THen again I think whatever is "best for the game and NHL" and then realize Bettman would do the exact opposite. Kind of like George on Seinfeld that time he decided to do exactly he opposite of whatever he would usually do. Maybe Bettman should try that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bender 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 For the 1000th time, the Wings aren't going east; this franchise is the lynchpin of the entire western conference. Regardless of what happens with the Penguins (and I would be very surprised if the actually move) the west needs the Wings where they are & the league just needs to schedule a few more Montreal / Toronto / Detroit games for good measure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IDLE19 3 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 if anything i think that nashville or columbus should be in the East before detroit should be even mentioned. geographically coumbus is more east than detroit. and they, well, suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Don Corleone Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Personally I'd hate to see Detroit go east because I like the Blues=Wings matchups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jwo 7 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 If the Wings bring the money to the West then why not move Toronto or some other big market team from the East into the West to double that money to generate in the West and send Nashville and Columbus to the East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bender 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 It's not just about geography & revenue, the success of the RedWings franchise over the last ten years makes it one of the few nationally recongized pro hockey teams in the US (sadly). They are the stuff that marketing plans are made of and that is where the real value of having them frequently play out west lies. If the Wings spent most of their time in the east, the league would pretty much risk losing the relevance of the western conference as a whole until the cup finals. Not even Bettman is that stupid. Not to mention the obvious fact that all of the strongest US hockey markets are in the eastern part of the continent already. There just isn't any need for Detroit to be included in that group when they can generate more interest out west. Case in point, we see time & time again the Wings helping to draw crowds out west simply by virtue of their very presence on the ice. I would rather see Toronto in our division again somehow, even if it meant re-thining the whole eastern/western conference by geography concept. By the same token, imagine if eastern teams like Toronto, Montreal, Boston, NJ & Carolina played more games out west as well. It would accomplish the same thing as Detroit playing on the west coast and allow the Wings to mix it up with more of the eastern teams. It would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GongShow86 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 If wings go east you get more orginal six games nothing better than that... bring back some old rivalry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 If the Wings bring the money to the West then why not move Toronto or some other big market team from the East into the West to double that money to generate in the West and send Nashville and Columbus to the East. Because Ottawa cries enough as it is, they'd bawl if the Leafs went West. The Leafs are one of their few guaranteed sellouts, along with Montreal and now Buffalo. Besides, the Leafs campaigned for years to get into the same division as Montreal and Ottawa, they wouldn't go back without a fight. With the Leafs paying in excess of $10 million into the revenue sharing pie as it is, there's no need to move them anywhere. That said, they definitely want to have more Western Canada trips. Also, the Leafs wouldn't draw in places like California. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Wings lost to Boston and Philly who are in the East.... Hard to say if it would be a positive move on our part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 if anything i think that nashville or columbus should be in the East before detroit should be even mentioned. geographically coumbus is more east than detroit. and they, well, suck. Atlanta being in the Eastern Conference makes the geography argument moot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
