wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 For Hull: Cant wait for Hull to make up some excuse.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 do you think the finishing touches on signing datsyuk have anything to do with bertuzzi's absence last night? You mean like, Bertuzzi had to come up to the private box and put the muscle on Greenstin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 do you think the finishing touches on signing datsyuk have anything to do with bertuzzi's absence last night? Not at all. Bert is fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) do you think the finishing touches on signing datsyuk have anything to do with bertuzzi's absence last night? No I don't think that had anything to do with it. Bert will be fine. If he doesn't play in the Season finale it'll just be as a precaution. He'll be ready for Game 1. Edited April 6, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 You mean like, Bertuzzi had to come up to the private box and put the muscle on Greenstin? That might do it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 You mean like, Bertuzzi had to come up to the private box and put the muscle on Greenstin? That was good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 You mean like, Bertuzzi had to come up to the private box and put the muscle on Greenstin? :rotflmao: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRum #1 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Is Dats closer to Thornton (6.667m) or Briere/Savard/Gomez (5m). I am going to say the latter. Someone will offer Briere upwards of 6 on the open market this summer...count on that, Briere will cash in. Datsyuk is a better all around center than Savard without question...try watching Savard and dont just focus on his numbers. Defensively he's a horror show. My point is you cant compare Briere and Datsyuk because both will make 6 or more after this summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1fan19 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 You mean like, Bertuzzi had to come up to the private box and put the muscle on Greenstin? LMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I'm not too happy about signing Datsyuk prior to the playoffs, but most of all I hope Holland didn't go overboard here. Datsyuk hasn't shown that he's anything else than a $5 M/year player. Even if Datsyuk decides to show up in this years playoffs, his market value would not increase dramatically (relatively speaking). I expect that Holland managed to get a discount for signing him prior to the playoffs. No more than $22 M/4 years. More than that would look quite ridiculous in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 1130---"We had it here first" haha. Pretty sure LGW had it first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Someone will offer Briere upwards of 6 on the open market this summer...count on that, Briere will cash in. Datsyuk is a better all around center than Savard without question...try watching Savard and dont just focus on his numbers. Defensively he's a horror show. My point is you cant compare Briere and Datsyuk because both will make 6 or more after this summer. Savard has consistently outperformed Dats offensively the past few years. This is the first season Dats has been noticeably better than Savard defensively, Even with Dats' huge season this year as plus minus goes, his career per-game average is still very close to Savard's, close enough to be offset by the teams they played on. I think Dats should end up with about 5.5m for four years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dats 1 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 1130---"We had it here first" haha. Pretty sure LGW had it first. You know that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 1130---"We had it here first" haha. Pretty sure LGW had it first. I think that's just a dig at the station up the dial than some little web site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRum #1 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I'm not too happy about signing Datsyuk prior to the playoffs, but most of all I hope Holland didn't go overboard here. Datsyuk hasn't shown that he's anything else than a $5 M/year player. So Datsyuk hasnt shown you he's any better than Tanguay or Savard (who make 5 and 5+ respectively)? With all due respect, without Datsyuk this team doesnt sniff a division title, period. You can make a strong argument that he's turned into the best defensive forward on the team as well. If Datsyuk get's 6, i'm fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I think that's just a dig at the station up the dial than some little web site. Oh, I know bro, but still funny as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) So Datsyuk hasnt shown you he's any better than Tanguay or Savard (who make 5 and 5+ respectively)? With all due respect, without Datsyuk this team doesnt sniff a division title, period. You can make a strong argument that he's turned into the best defensive forward on the team as well. If Datsyuk get's 6, i'm fine. As long as Draper and Zetterberg are on the team, you really can't. Edited April 6, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 ....some little web site. "Don't sell yourself short, judge, you're a tremendous slouch." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GuloGulo 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) Savard, Tanguay, Nylander, Langkow, Horcoff, McDonald, Arnott, Briere, Koivu, Gomez, Sedin, Reinprecht, Jokinen, Handzus, York are all first-line centers near Dats' age who make less than that. Modano, Cammalleri, Weight, Crosby, Holik, Staal, Spezza, Sutherby are those guys out of his age range that make less than 5.5m Fedorov, Sakic, Sundin, Yashin are guys outside of his age range who make more than 5.5m Lecavalier and Thornton are only ones in Dats' age range making more than 5.5m. Is Dats closer to Thornton (6.667m) or Briere/Savard/Gomez (5m). I am going to say the latter. [/font] Just because you play on the first line, it doesn't mean you're a 1st line center calibre player. Edit: To clarify. The Rangers would get a 1st line center (aka Gomez) if they could. Nylander compliments Jagr well, but they'd still seek to solidify that position. All elite centres will get their payday (in the cases of Modano Sundin etc already had theirs) once opportinuty arises. Couple a rising cap with a demand that's larger than the supply (not 30 elite centres around), and the cheques will keep coming. Briere will get more than 5M, if he wants. Edited April 6, 2007 by GuloGulo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterbergfuturemvp 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 this is good news ........all those stupid rumors about him going to play with his "best friend" ovechkin can be put to rest , without seeing how pavel does in the playoffs before doing the deal i cant see holland giving 6 + million per season , and im pretty sure pavel did the deal as well cause he knows if he tanks in the playoffs again he might not get as much in the off season , i just hope he performs and we dont regret it , i think he's signed to between 5 to 5.5 million per season , if it means we take less of a hit on the cap annually by giving him an extra season on his deal id give him a 5 yr 25 million deal can't wait to hear the numbers .......anyone know anywhere online where i can see or hear the press conference ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 As long as Draper and Zetterberg are on the team, you really can't. QFT While Dats has done a considerably better job this season on defense than last, Hank has him beat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 The contract is 5-Years, no salary mentioned yet. DETROIT -- The Wings have signed center Pavel Datysuk to a five-year contract extension. Datsyuk was set to become a free agent at the end of the season. There had been national reports that he was interested in signing with Pittsburgh or Washington. The Wings planned to formally announce the signing at a news conference this afternoon. Datsyuk, a 28-year-old from Russia, leads the Wings in scoring with 87 points. He has 27 goals and 60 assists and is a plus-37. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...PDATE/704060452 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRum #1 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) As long as Draper and Zetterberg are on the team, you really can't. Are Draper and Zetterberg really better defensively....it's certainly debatable. Datsyuk has basically played Zetterberg's role since Hank went down and been just as strong on both ends of the ice. Datsyuk has been above average defensively for 2 or 3 years now and only recently has he received praise for his two-way work. While Dats has done a considerably better job this season on defense than last, Hank has him beat. Both get it done in different ways, both are dogged in their puck pusruit and back-checking. IMO both are equally as effective. Edited April 6, 2007 by RedRum #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 So Datsyuk hasnt shown you he's any better than Tanguay or Savard (who make 5 and 5+ respectively)? With all due respect, without Datsyuk this team doesnt sniff a division title, period. You can make a strong argument that he's turned into the best defensive forward on the team as well. If Datsyuk get's 6, i'm fine. As indicated by my original post, half a mill isn't the entire world, but I don't think Datsyuk has done anything to warrant $6 M a year. I don't think he is significantly better than Tanguay or Savard. I'm not interested in the division title. What interests me is that a top player that produces in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites