Pronger at it again: elbow to McAmmond's head

[Mors 201]

Pronger continues to establish himself as one of the biggest pieces of s*** in the NHL...grats.

[OsGOD 3]

Its simple. A game in the Finals has MUCH more value than the regular season. I equate it to at least 1 to 10 ratio.

I dunno... McClennan got 5 games for whacking a player in the gut... Seems pretty odd that a twice offender (within a month) for head hunting with elbows doesn't equate to MORE than that.... even if you added up the punishmen for 2 seperate times.

But alas McClennan was a lot less important to the game and being a back up 5 games was perfect anyways.

Edited June 3, 2007 by OsGOD

[scotzman 29]

Pronger most definitely should have received more than a game... in my opinion Pronger should have received 2 for the repeat offense, but the NHL only has a certain amount of testicular fortitude. They really want this scumbag to win a Cup. All of Canada will hate him even more if/when that happens. Why doesn't someone just get some balls and send someone out to punish him somehow? This whole ordeal sickens me... no place for people like this in the league. He is beginning to remind me of a guy like Marchment or better yet, Scott Stevens. It'll all catch up with him someday...

Getzlaff's line are a bunch of cheap shot artists by the way. Some of the crosschecks and hits from behind that they deliver are ridiculous. These refs need to call that crap...

[SJCheechoo14 0]

i dunno if this was posted already

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&am...rticleid=314904

[scotzman 29]

Strike Pansy Ass's name from the cup, if the Ducks win it.

Either that, or find that limo driver that nearly killed vladdy. Make sure he gets the job done this time and send him out to Pansy Ass.

Yikes...

That's a little harsh man.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

I dunno... McClennan got 5 games for whacking a player in the gut... Seems pretty odd that a twice offender (within a month) for head hunting with elbows doesn't equate to MORE than that.... even if you added up the punishmen for 2 seperate times.

But alas McClennan was a lot less important to the game and being a back up 5 games was perfect anyways.

McClennan's looked alot worse and more blatant than Pronger's. Also that was way early on in the playoffs, obviously the further you get naturally the more value the games possess suspension-wise. Possibly missing 4 games in the Finals is a HELL of lot harsher punishment than 5 games in rd 1 and 2.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

i dunno if this was posted already

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&am...rticleid=314904

With St. Louis, one regular-season game for kicking Calgary F Ville Nieminen.

Wow ... didnt remeber that , what a ******* ***** , you dont kick people with your skates one

[scotzman 29]

McClennan's looked alot worse and more blatant than Pronger's. Also that was way early on in the playoffs, obviously the further you get naturally the more value the games possess suspension-wise. Possibly missing 4 games in the Finals is a HELL of lot harsher punishment than 5 games in rd 1 and 2.

Agreed, but at least 2 for a repeat offense is definitely warranted.

[Statts 4]

Duckette knows nothing about hockey.. all she does is condone bush league hockey, and make wise cracks at those who oppose the dirty play of the Ducks..

I think you are confusing Duckette with justtheducks. Duckette is a classy poster. She unlike other duck fans (you know who you are) does not look threw her homer glasses. Do I agree with everything she says? No, but I respect her opinion as a level headed ducks fan.

[Guest Shoreline]

Its simple. A game in the Finals has MUCH more value than the regular season. I equate it to at least 1 to 10 ratio.

If McAmmond is gone for the playoffs (I doubt he is, but we'll see), why should Pronger be able to play? Is the value of playing less for McAmmond than Pronger?

I really doubt this whole playoffs vs. season logic matters when it comes to injuries, particularly the intent-to-injure plays Pronger's made a habit out of, even if you just take this season's playoffs alone. If a game = a game for McAmmond, a game = a game for Pronger. Repeat offenses should carry a much heavier weight, since people aren't video game characters who don't suffer short+long term consequences from repeated hits to the head. Unfortunately Pronger was not made an example out of last series, so he did it again. Ironic how it happens repeatedly when the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

[OsGOD 3]

McClennan's looked alot worse and more blatant than Pronger's. Also that was way early on in the playoffs, obviously the further you get naturally the more value the games possess suspension-wise. Possibly missing 4 games in the Finals is a HELL of lot harsher punishment than 5 games in rd 1 and 2.

looked is the keyword there... A stick to the gut will rarely cause the same devistation as a hit to any part of the head. I haven't heard of a stick to the gut causing a concussion or ending a players career (i mean x-checking seems to be allowed more and more now... and that is just the other side of the body than the gut). I tend to think the hit Pronger took on Holmer looked a lot worse and more blatant than McClennan's slash to Franzen.

Edited June 3, 2007 by OsGOD

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Duck Fan is obviously someone from our board just posing as a Ducks fan....doesnt take a genius to spot that.

[RedRockit 0]

If McAmmond is gone for the playoffs (I doubt he is, but we'll see), why should Pronger be able to play? Is the value of playing less for McAmmond than Pronger?

If he's NOT gone for the playoffs, then some medico is doing him a severe disservice. McAmmond was unconscious on the ice for an extended period-- that's concussion, and it's not his first.

(having said that, one of RockitSon's football teammates reluctantly admitted to me that he refused to let a doc near him and secretly played concussed for two games in our run to State this year, and that's just HIGH SCHOOL)(scholarship on the line, but what a tough kid anyhow!) I wondered about Holmstrom's TRUE condition when he came back out in Game 3,, as I'll wonder about McAmmond should he play Game 4.

The reality is, if he should return, there will be nothing stopping Pronger from sticking out another elbow at him in Game 5-- NOTHING. Oh sure, maybe another game suspension, but that'd be about it.Theoretically, he could end McAmmond's career without serious consequence, were he to make it look as effortlessly "accidental" as the first hit-- which, mind you, didn't even move the on-ice officials to even make a call.

What's being missed here is that there is absolutely NO provision for "repeat offenders" in the NHL rules as they stand. NO carryover from one game to the next, from one series to the next.

NHL- speaking, legally Pronger's hit on Holmstrom had absolutely no bearing on what he did to McAmmond. Completely separate events, and judgment was meted out accordingly.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Duck Fan is obviously someone from our board just posing as a Ducks fan....doesnt take a genius to spot that.

That was my first guess.

[zetterberg_fan_40 0]

so i missed the hit. Does anyone have a clip of it I looked on nhl.com and i didnt see it.

God I hate pronger. For this being the second time he's done something like that he should have gotten more than one game.

[Statts 4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QphT0Wg9-58

[zetterberg_fan_40 0]

thanks.

[IceMunkee 15]

Any progress? Because I fully agree with you and everyone else. The NHL has become such a bad, tired, joke.

No I can't find anything... Maybe he is the only one ever???

For those saying he shouldve been suspended for the rest of the Stanley Cup Finals, do you not realize that is the equivalent to suspending someone half the year in the regular season? 40 games for that?? Come on now!

This is the STANLEY CUP FINALS, being out for 1 game is a severe punishment

What? Bottom line is supensions should not be given out based on the time of year or type of player. Really one playoff games is exactly the same as one regular season in every aspect. So if I kill a guy in july I should be tried for murder but if I kill a guy at Christmas then I will only get an Assualt and Battery becuase Xmas is much more important then July and that time is more sacred and meaningful....

Strike Pansy Ass's name from the cup, if the Ducks win it.

Either that, or find that limo driver that nearly killed vladdy. Make sure he gets the job done this time and send him out to Pansy Ass.

You truly disgust me.

[OsGOD 3]

so i missed the hit. Does anyone have a clip of it I looked on nhl.com and i didnt see it.

God I hate pronger. For this being the second time he's done something like that he should have gotten more than one game.

Watch it all the way through... they zoom in a bit more at the end.

[LeftWinger 5,153]

...my question is, what happens to these refs who blatently DO NOT make the call? Look at the official in the video, he is watching the entire play, first of all, not only was it a blatent forearm to the head, it was also a very late hit, he had already shot the puck, and went to skate after it. Very late hit, the ref watched the entire play, seen the hit, watched the guy crumble to the ice and slide semi-unconciously into the corner, only to turn his head and watch the play continue, when the player didn't get up only then did he stop the play. There is tough play and there are cheap shots, I think eveyone who is not living in south LA knows which one this falls under. Pronger should have been suspended for the rest of the series AT LEAST. Hello, NHL, REPEAT OFFENDER?!?!?! If I ever see this guy in public, I will call him a c*cksucker right to his face! Hopefully he'll have his wife with him (does he have any kids?) If he does, he need not look too far when his son grows up to be a homo, it's hard to look up to someone who is as gutless as Pronger is...

...I don't see a difference between Prongers 2 hits, and Bertuzzi's attack. All three were intent to injure, they should be banned from playing. PERIOD....

[OsGOD 3]

No I can't find anything... Maybe he is the only one ever???

What? Bottom line is supensions should not be given out based on the time of year or type of player. Really one playoff games is exactly the same as one regular season in every aspect. So if I kill a guy in july I should be tried for murder but if I kill a guy at Christmas then I will only get an Assualt and Battery becuase Xmas is much more important then July and that time is more sacred and meaningful....

Now accepting four(4) qualified individuals (two who like to shoot and two who like to get shot) for a little test we are running. That seems to be method behind the madness as described. I would be curious to know the results. July is right around the corner so we have a month to get the people lined up. The december applicants have a little bit more time.

:::AMMENDED::: And please NO ONE famous need apply that would only further the biasness of the court system.

Edited June 3, 2007 by OsGOD

[KronwallCRUNCH 5]

Strike Pansy Ass's name from the cup, if the Ducks win it.

Either that, or find that limo driver that nearly killed vladdy. Make sure he gets the job done this time and send him out to Pansy Ass.

I've read some pretty asinine things in my life, but this takes the cake. Congratulations on being the world's biggest idiot.

[OsGOD 3]

...my question is, what happens to these refs who blatently DO NOT make the call? Look at the official in the video, he is watching the entire play, first of all, not only was it a blatent forearm to the head, it was also a very late hit, he had already shot the puck, and went to skate after it. Very late hit, the ref watched the entire play, seen the hit, watched the guy crumble to the ice and slide semi-unconciously into the corner, only to turn his head and watch the play continue, when the player didn't get up only then did he stop the play. There is tough play and there are cheap shots, I think eveyone who is not living in south LA knows which one this falls under. Pronger should have been suspended for the rest of the series AT LEAST. Hello, NHL, REPEAT OFFENDER?!?!?! If I ever see this guy in public, I will call him a c*cksucker right to his face! Hopefully he'll have his wife with him (does he have any kids?) If he does, he need not look too far when his son grows up to be a homo, it's hard to look up to someone who is as gutless as Pronger is...

...I don't see a difference between Prongers 2 hits, and Bertuzzi's attack. All three were intent to injure, they should be banned from playing. PERIOD....

I posed the same question earlier (possibly not in this thread) saying... how is that two(2) seperate plays by the same player get no calls during the game... but lead to SUSPENSIONs after the game. Do the refs suck that bad or are the individual games truely fixed.

Edited June 3, 2007 by OsGOD

[LeftWinger 5,153]

I posed the same question earlier (possibly not in this thread) saying... how is that two(2) seperate plays by the same player get no calls during the game... but lead to SUSPENSIONs after the game. Do the refs suck that bad or are the individual games truely fixed.

...my point is, suspend a ref once in a while, maybe he won't turn the other cheek when a player is actually hurt...

[Kp-Wings 3]

(does he have any kids?)

I believe he has a daughter.