datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 what's the word on grigs? how is he looking in gr? anybody know. any chance of him coming up before november, and if not, will he go back to russia? i only ask because it'd be wonderful right now to have the next ilya kovalchuck winging the second line. i'm guessing since i haven't heard anything about him that it's not good news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfanatic4alltime 32 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 The detroit news wrote a brief thing about him he has no points in 6 games with grand rapids yea not good news Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 damn. i knew he was too good to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob the Badger 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 They have only played three games, but still... no points in any of them for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 Has Grigs got in any fights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 what's the word on grigs? how is he looking in gr? anybody know. any chance of him coming up before november, and if not, will he go back to russia? i only ask because it'd be wonderful right now to have the next ilya kovalchuck winging the second line. i'm guessing since i haven't heard anything about him that it's not good news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 it'd be wonderful right now to have the next ilya kovalchuck winging the second line.Apparently not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickeyisms Rule! 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 No points, no PIMs, just a +1 in 3 games. I will give a more detailed report after Saturday's home opener. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 What a disappointment he's been so far. There was so much hype for this guy here, then he doesn't even make the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 What a disappointment he's been so far. There was so much hype for this guy here, then he doesn't even make the team. Eh, don't be so blue. Pleanty of time left, don't forget either if the guy don't make it, he did almost die and has rods in his leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 What a disappointment he's been so far. There was so much hype for this guy here, then he doesn't even make the team. Part of the problem is that he knows he has an out clause and $1M US tax-free dollars waiting for him over in the CCCP. And he knows that the Wings are going to give him a shot in the NHL before November 1st. He has absolutely no motivation to perform well in Grand Rapids. And we know he's not going to push himself as the shape he arrived in is evident to how much drive and self discipline he possesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Eh, don't be so blue. Pleanty of time left, don't forget either if the guy don't make it, he did almost die and has rods in his leg. I know. so I can understand it taking a while to get his game back and develop it to the NHL level. What I don't understand is him showing up to camp out of shape. The Wings desperately need a winger with a scoring touch. The opportunity was there for the taking. And he couldn't even manage to show up in good shape. Edited October 16, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 he'll come good, whilst I agree that he could have come into camp in better shape, I would say he didn't know what to expect and has had a big wake up call. Hopefully he is picking up the tempo in GR and I think him going to GR says alot about his desire to make the Wings. Lets be honest, he could be back in Russia already if he wanted earning top $. He'll get points for the Griffs no doubt about that, maybe a 4pt weekend and he'll be back on the radar. I just got a feeling that him and Dats could have some great chemistry eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) I know. so I can understand it taking a while to get his game back and develop it to the NHL level. What I don't understand is him showing up to camp out of shape. The Wings desperately need a winger with a scoring touch. The opportunity was there for the taking. And he couldn't even manage to show up in good shape. Yeah I hear ya. I hope he learned and figured out what it takes to play at the NHL level and that's what he's getting up to down there. I just have a hard time believing he's just saying screw it and waiting to go back home, I mean what was the point in coming over anyway then, you know? I'd like to see how he's doing in person so I could form my own opinion on his progress, although I'm thinking for better or worse he's going to get a shot, hopefully he makes something out of it. I'm not ready to write him off just yet. edit- dp. Edited October 16, 2007 by bringback91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lnvincible Report post Posted October 16, 2007 Give him some time. Not many people can come back from what he has from. I mean sure he hasnt recorded any points at all in 6 games but , im sure he'll start to pick it up soon. He's also playin in a different hockey style. Jus give him so time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 i really like the guy, he was my favorite rookie prospect the last 2 years and im sure the wings are going to give him a shot...but i dont want another lang on the team, i thought this guy really wanted to play hard but we will see im positive he will be in great shape to make the team or he will stay in GR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zata fan 40 6 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 GR has only played three games and there was quite a bit of space between game one and game two of the year. His play will pick up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) Has Grigs got in any fights? He tried to beat up the coach for only starting him in three games. Allegedly. What's that? They've only played three games? OK, he'll try to fight Babcock when he's never called up from Grand Rapids. Edited October 16, 2007 by jaytan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jooks91 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 Isn't griggs the only dude on the griffins team that speaks Russian? I mean, really that could be a thorn in your side if you didn't understand what your teammates and coach and, Hell ... everyone around you was trying to say. Hockey doesn't need much explainin' to a player, yea, but lots of other things go with it , right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 Isn't griggs the only dude on the griffins team that speaks Russian? I mean, really that could be a thorn in your side if you didn't understand what your teammates and coach and, Hell ... everyone around you was trying to say. Hockey doesn't need much explainin' to a player, yea, but lots of other things go with it , right? Grigoernko has a translator. He should be able to speak english. He basically knew that at some point, he was going to come to North America 6 years ago when he was drafted. There is absolutley no excuse for him not being able to speak any english at all, since he's had plenty of time to study the language. I hope he that Babcock isn't stupid enough to call him up if he isn't going to give even a mediocre effort. He's been such a disappointment so far, and has no place on this team right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 He doesnt deserve a shot right now. He was terrible in training camp, pre-season and now in GR. We'll have to wait till next year for him, or at least we should. If he was brought up here, he'd do the exact same things. The last thing we need is our top prospect to have no confidence and stuck in Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashenden 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 Part of the problem is that he knows he has an out clause and $1M US tax-free dollars waiting for him over in the CCCP. And he knows that the Wings are going to give him a shot in the NHL before November 1st. He has absolutely no motivation to perform well in Grand Rapids. And we know he's not going to push himself as the shape he arrived in is evident to how much drive and self discipline he possesses. Wow, project much? How in the world do you know any of those things? If he's got all of those dollars waiting in the "CCCP", why the hell did he come over? If that was the case, he could be rolling around in all his tax-free dollars right now, instead of putting himself under intense media scrutiny, moving himself and his family to a foreign country, all the while attempting to play in the most elite hockey league in the world. So your statement holds no water. As far as his fitness level is concerned, maybe you're right, maybe not; we won't know until he plays, or we actually get a report about his attitude/fitness. But to present it as "we know" he's not motivated is simply speculation based on your impression of him gathered through the media and a translator. Actually, he has said that the level of play in the AHL is higher than in Russia, that there is no guarantee he'll return in November if he's still in the AHL, and that almost all that have observed him has said that he continues to get better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Jiri Hudler and Matt Ellis both put up great point totals in Grand Rapids. Perhaps Grigs is still adjusting. Otherwise, stick a fork in him--he's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kutcher 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Trade hime and bring up Darren Helm or Cory Emmerton! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 trade him for Booggard. just trade him idc i hate the hype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
