Which active player will have his jersey retired?

[OsGOD 3]

My hope is that Larry Murphy will hang up his FSN mic and call it a career...

One can hope can't they!

Where is the petition to bring back the Little Ball of Hate to color the games on the west coast. I can't take his (murphs) verbal spam anymore.

Edited October 30, 2007 by OsGOD

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Koivu will definitely be retired. If not, you can be sure that his number will be taken out of circulation. The guy would probably already have a couple hundred more points to his name if he didnt have to battle cancer. Hes one of the most underrated players in the game.

[Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3]

If players were to retire today, I'd consider all these possibilities...

- Mark Recchi with the Flyers

- Paul Kariya with the Ducks

- Saku Koivu with the Habs

- Rob Blake with the Kings

- Markus Naslund with the Canucks

- Brodeur with the Devils

- Sakic with the Avs

- Selanne with the Ducks

- Ryan Smyth with the Oilers

- Sundin with the Leafs

- Lidstrom with the Wings

- Modano with the Stars

- Alfredsson with the Sens

That'd probably be my list.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I think 1,000 points is an EXTREME long shot.

maybe you're right. Over the past 4 years he's averaged 75.7 games played per season and 65.7 points. He's on pace for 90 points this season. Hypothetically (I do so love hypotheticals ), lets say he hits his average this year of 65 points. That's put him at 600 points exactly. So, he'd have to play 6 more seasons, averaging 65 points to crack 1000. Long shot? Maybe. "EXTREME" I don't think so.

[OsGOD 3]

Anyone know if Joe Kocur is available? Might be an interesting color guy on those road games.

Geez, IDK... but Kenny Come on! 1-800 Hansons... GET IT DONE!

[toby91_ca 620]

maybe you're right. Over the past 4 years he's averaged 75.7 games played per season and 65.7 points. He's on pace for 90 points this season. Hypothetically (I do so love hypotheticals ), lets say he hits his average this year of 65 points. That's put him at 600 points exactly. So, he'd have to play 6 more seasons, averaging 65 points to crack 1000. Long shot? Maybe. "EXTREME" I don't think so.

The reason I said extreme long shot is because A) I don't think he is going to play for another 6 years after this year and even if he did, B) his average production per year is bound to decrease over those 6 years.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

The reason I said extreme long shot is because A) I don't think he is going to play for another 6 years after this year and even if he did, B) his average production per year is bound to decrease over those 6 years.

Whether he'll play another 6 is a definite question mark. What makes me think its possible is that he suffered through all that adversity but has always had the tools to put up big numbers, just not the supporting cast. Look at the teams they've had in Montreal...UGHHH!! That's probably the next biggest factor that would keep him from reaching 1000. Of course it seems as though the game is more wide open and scoring is definitely on the rise. Maybe that will counteract some of the point production drop. Heck, look at somebody like Sakic, getting older but still doing the same thing, posting the same points he was 8 years ago. Definitely its going to be tough for him. If he plays 6 years or more, I think he's a lock. If he quits in the next 4. No way he can make it unless he starts churning out 90 point seasons (which he's on pace for as of today)

[RedWings Gone Wild 6]

Mark Recchi, Koivu, Blake, Cheli, and Smyth are not going to happen anywhere.

Chicago is still to bitter at Cheli for it to happen. If Koivu didnt spend his career in Montreal (where they r running short of numbers) i'd say he'd have a shot at it.

The only guarantees are Lidstrom, Sakic, Brodeur, Kolzig, and Modano.

I think Bondra is likely in Washington, Iginla will probably have his # retired in Calgary, Leetch is getting his # retired this coming year in NY, Naslund maybe (depending on the outcome of this offseason), I could see Dom getting his # retired in Buffalo if they are desperate for a boost in attendence, Trevor Linden might also get it in Vancouver, Shane Doan is a possibility in Phoenix (tho they somehow nvr retired Dale Hawerchuk's #), and maybe Zubov in Dallas. I could see the ducks going either way with Selanne and Kariya.

A lot of these teams ala Phoenix, Dallas, Buffalo, and Washington are more likely to retire numbers to try and maintain a history and to create enthusiasm with thier fan base. Teams like Montreal, Toronto, Detroit, Chicago (even Edmonton with the # of cup wins / numbers retired)... they already all the history they need, so they can afford to be picky when retiring numbers.

[Guest Hatethedrake!]

I heard the Avs are retiring the jersey numbers of Theoren Fleury and Darius Kasparaitis. Oh you meant current. Uh hmmm...Scott Parker then.

[Spongewingredpants 75]

Lilja

[Duck Guy 86]

If players were to retire today, I'd consider all these possibilities...

- Paul Kariya with the Ducks

wouldn't be surprised if most ducks fans would dislike that even though he was a great player while he was there alot of hate for him after leaving the team

[Guest Jeremy88]

Patrick Stefan in Dallas AND Edmonton

Edited October 30, 2007 by Jeremy88

[zata40 3]

have the hurricanes retired Ron Francis yet? he was that clubs best player.

[LeftWinger 5,153]

Lidstrom def will get his number retired.

I could see Dats and Z getting their numbers retired if they stay in Detroit for their entire careers and lead the Wings to a couple championships

...let's see, bottom line, set in stone...

Lidstrom - Yes

Fedorov - Yes

Zetterberg - Yes (if he stays here his whole career, he could very well end up #3 ALL TIME Red Wing scoring)

Datsyuk - Never

...here's my pick for a dark horse. If he finishes his career here (which he will) chalks up more than 400 wins (he might) then Chris Osgood deserves his #30 in the rafters...

Mark Recchi, Koivu, Blake, Cheli, and Smyth are not going to happen anywhere.

Chicago is still to bitter at Cheli for it to happen. If Koivu didnt spend his career in Montreal (where they r running short of numbers) i'd say he'd have a shot at it.

The only guarantees are Lidstrom, Sakic, Brodeur, Kolzig, and Modano.

....uh, why would Chicago be bitter about TRADING Chelios to us? He didn't come here as a UFA, he was TRADED by Chicago for Anders Eriksson and a 1st rounder...

...Lidstrom, Sakic, Modano & Broduer I agree, but Kolzig? No way!

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

The Wings wont retire Fedorovs number.

Sakic in Colorado, Modano in Dallas, Brodeur in New Jersey, Lidstrom in Detroit, Sundin in Toronto.

Those are the ones that should, I believe Chelios should have his, but wont not here or in Chicago. Also, anyone who said Alfredson or Naslund .... what exactly have those 2 ever done? Linden should probably be the only number retired by Vancouver, I dont think Ottawa will retire any numbers.

[Shaman 713]

Very, very early to thinking about Dats and Z getting their numbers retired. Neither has accomplished anything yet to warrant that type of discussion. Not diminishing their abilities, but Fedorov had accomplished a lot more here than them and no one thinks his number should be retired here.

I find you may be contradicting yourself a little as well when talking about them, but making fun of Crosby in Pittsburgh. Again, Dats and Z are great players, but you have to admit that Crosby is a pretty special player as well.

Think about this for a minute. When Dats was Crosby's age, he was 3 years away from playing his first NHL game. When Z was Crosby's age, he was 2 years away from playing his first NHL game. Prior to his 20th birthday, Crosby had won a scoring title (youngest ever in any sport), won the Hart and Pearson and had set about 9 NHL records. Who knows that the future will hold, but for him, it looks fairly bright.

About Crosby, hes from Canada, where its easier to get the NHL's attention whereas Z and Dats were in Europe where only a few teams have scouts and the ability to draw the players away from their countries leagues and teams. Crosby isn't the next 99 or 9 PERIOD. I don't care how good he is, Gretzky had 301 pts and was +56, Crosby 222 pts and is only +4, 99 had 106 goals Crosby has 76, AND the NHL didn't have all these stupid penalties that they have now. Understand? hes not special, hes great, but not special. I can argue all night long that, I mean hell, for his goal scoring ability hes on Yzerman's level, (compare both of them in the first 2 years) granted, but hes no great one.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

The Wings wont retire Fedorovs number.

Sakic in Colorado, Modano in Dallas, Brodeur in New Jersey, Lidstrom in Detroit, Sundin in Toronto.

Those are the ones that should, I believe Chelios should have his, but wont not here or in Chicago. Also, anyone who said Alfredson or Naslund .... what exactly have those 2 ever done? Linden should probably be the only number retired by Vancouver, I dont think Ottawa will retire any numbers.

If Ottawa doesn't retire Alfredsson's number, then they'll never retire anybody's number. He is the history of that franchise. Also, Linden was never great enough to have his number retired.

[Bannedforlife 403]

About Crosby, hes from Canada, where its easier to get the NHL's attention whereas Z and Dats were in Europe where only a few teams have scouts and the ability to draw the players away from their countries leagues and teams. Crosby isn't the next 99 or 9 PERIOD. I don't care how good he is, Gretzky had 301 pts and was +56, Crosby 222 pts and is only +4, 99 had 106 goals Crosby has 76, AND the NHL didn't have all these stupid penalties that they have now. Understand? hes not special, hes great, but not special. I can argue all night long that, I mean hell, for his goal scoring ability hes on Yzerman's level, (compare both of them in the first 2 years) granted, but hes no great one.

Didn't Wayne Gretzky himself say that Crosby is going to break every one of his records?

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Didn't Wayne Gretzky himself say that Crosby is going to break every one of his records?

I doubt it. Wayne isn't that stupid, because he knows how great he was and how untouchable his records are. He just chooses not to brag about it.

[BeeRYCE 2]

It's pretty much impossible for Wayne's records to be broken. He did it at a time where there was no salary cap, wayyy crappier goalies, and pretty bad defensemen in comparison to now. It's even hard to picture a player reaching 140 points ever again. The only major record I see getting broken is his 894 goal record, I can see somebody reaching 900.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

It's pretty much impossible for Wayne's records to be broken. He did it at a time where there was no salary cap, wayyy crappier goalies, and pretty bad defensemen in comparison to now. It's even hard to picture a player reaching 140 points ever again. The only major record I see getting broken is his 894 goal record, I can see somebody reaching 900.

How? There's only a few players in the league each year that hit 50. They'd have to score 50 goals for 18 straight seasons to hit 900.

[red and white forever 10]

iggy with the flamers?

[BeeRYCE 2]

How? There's only a few players in the league each year that hit 50. They'd have to score 50 goals for 18 straight seasons to hit 900.

There is a possibility a player can average 50 goals per season in an 18 year span. Joe Sakic is 38 and he can score like the young guys. Picture it, Ovechkin being 22 years old, it's hard to not imagine him having some 60+ goal seasons during his career along with 40, 50, 60 goal seasons coming along a 20 year span, he could hit 900. Being the hot sniper that John Tavares is, maybe he'll do it.

Edited October 31, 2007 by BeeRYCE

[auxlepli 17]

Is Forsberg active or no? Avs, which retired Bourque's number, will definitely retire Forsberg's number.

[toby91_ca 620]

About Crosby, hes from Canada, where its easier to get the NHL's attention whereas Z and Dats were in Europe where only a few teams have scouts and the ability to draw the players away from their countries leagues and teams. Crosby isn't the next 99 or 9 PERIOD. I don't care how good he is, Gretzky had 301 pts and was +56, Crosby 222 pts and is only +4, 99 had 106 goals Crosby has 76, AND the NHL didn't have all these stupid penalties that they have now. Understand? hes not special, hes great, but not special. I can argue all night long that, I mean hell, for his goal scoring ability hes on Yzerman's level, (compare both of them in the first 2 years) granted, but hes no great one.

I don't think anyone truly thinks that Crosby will achieve more than Gretzky did, but in terms of your comparison, you are comparing Crosby at 18 and 19 to Gretzky at 19 and 20. Gretzky did not achieve as much as Crosby at the same age...period.

Comparing to Yzerman, he had 176 pts his first 2 years and Crosby had 222. Yzerman's first 2 years were in a league that was MUCH higher scoring (14 out of 21 teams scored more than 300 goals vs. 1 out of 30 last year). Also, you seem to suggest he is on par with what Yzerman did....do you not think Yzerman was a special player?

So if Crosby is only able to accomplish as much as Yzerman has over the course of his career do you think there will be many people that would think he's a bust and didn't live up to the hype???

Edited October 31, 2007 by toby91_ca