Sean Avery

[MacK_Attack 108]

Are you serious? Where did you hear that?

If that is true....I'm speechless.

FAN 590 this morning...."unnamed Ranger player" told a couple reporters after the game. They asked Blake about it, he nodded his head and said that he wasn't going to get into it.

[BlueMonk 102]

FAN 590 this morning...."unnamed Ranger player" told a couple reporters after the game. They asked Blake about it, he nodded his head and said that he wasn't going to get into it.

That's not surprising to me. Remember when he was with the Wings and he was making a drinking gesture towards Theo Fleury, who is an alcoholic? The racial slurs, too. It's ridiculous, there's no need for that. Like I said, at this pace, he's going to leave the game of hockey via a premeditated, on-ice incident.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

That's not surprising to me. Remember when he was with the Wings and he was making a drinking gesture towards Theo Fleury, who is an alcoholic? The racial slurs, too. It's ridiculous, there's no need for that. Like I said, at this pace, he's going to leave the game of hockey via a premeditated, on-ice incident.

For his sake, he better never jaw at Chris Simon, or like you said, an "on ice incident" will end his career.

But after hearing about what Avery said, that's a ******* disgrace. I like the guy, but making fun of Blake for having cancer? Bell, Tucker and Gill shouldve taken out Avery right then and there. The racial slurs, when he called Laraque a monkey? Laraque should've beat the s*** out of him for that one. I dont remeber the Theo Fleury one, but Im sure someone on the Rangers(or the Avs, whichever) couldve gotten Avery for that one.

[MacK_Attack 108]

For his sake, he better never jaw at Chris Simon, or like you said, an "on ice incident" will end his career.

But after hearing about what Avery said, that's a ******* disgrace. I like the guy, but making fun of Blake for having cancer? Bell, Tucker and Gill shouldve taken out Avery right then and there. The racial slurs, when he called Laraque a monkey? Laraque should've beat the s*** out of him for that one. I dont remeber the Theo Fleury one, but Im sure someone on the Rangers(or the Avs, whichever) couldve gotten Avery for that one.

I'll guarantee you something....the next time the Leafs play the Rangers (Dec. 6th), Wade Belak will play and Avery's going to be a marked man.

Someone will "kill" Avery

[egroen 384]

Avery is out to get a reaction -- so what should he say?

Should he keep it PC and PG and perhaps make fun of their haircut? Maybe a couple fart jokes?

I don't know, I agree it is classless and I would be upset if a Red Wings player was doing so... but if your intention is to agitate and seriously get a professional player's mind off his game, you have to take a no-holds-barred attitude.

It obviously works.

He's playing within the rules as they are and taking advantage of them. It's smart and if he can insult a better player enough to get him off the ice for 5 minutes, he helps his team win. Can you imagine the insults barked on the field of pro football and basketball games, where the penalties for fighting are even more severe?

That said, I just hope the Red Wings never resort to such antics, as I like to think they are "better than that". But I imagine Maltby has said some things on the ice that would offend just about all of us.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I'll guarantee you something....the next time the Leafs play the Rangers (Dec. 6th), Wade Belak will play and Avery's going to be a marked man.

Someone will "kill" Avery

I saw just reading about that actually. I hope Belak kills him, Instigator rule or not, Avery says one thing about Tucker, or Blake or anyone, Belak is gonna take his head off.

And it wont just be Belak, for Seans well being, he better not play the Wild this season.

[CopenhagenWing 38]

That's because Avery was lipping Blake about having cancer.

I thought that'd be the issue.

While I don't have any problem with Belak kicking Avery's ass, I do find it a little disturbing that it's in print that they're going after him. See Bertuzzi - Moore.

Edited November 13, 2007 by CopenhagenWing

[interminded 1]

I've always said the guy is a classless piece of **** and a medioce hockey player.

Who makes fun of a fellow hockey-player who has cancer ?

Sean F-ing Avery... that's who.

Glad he's out of Detroit.

It's strange though, that nobody in LA sets him straight for his actions.

I mean, a guy like Rob Blake is somewhat of a veteran who should be able to be an authority in the dressing room.

Apparently not..

[Opie 308]

I've always said the guy is a classless piece of **** and a medioce hockey player.

Who makes fun of a fellow hockey-player who has cancer ?

Sean F-ing Avery... that's who.

Glad he's out of Detroit.

It's strange though, that nobody in LA sets him straight for his actions.

I mean, a guy like Rob Blake is somewhat of a veteran who should be able to be an authority in the dressing room.

Apparently not..

Dude, he did that s*** on a Det team that had captain class on it, Steve Yzerman, and guys like Lids, Draper, hell even Cheli wouldn't stoop that low, and he still did it in Det.

I was wrong about him being dirty, but I never lost my sense that he was classless, and I don't ever expect that to change, especially now after winning an arbitration and getting paid, this dude's ego will be astronomical and he will feel untouchable until some one puts him down on the ice. I am not condoning that type of play by Belak or anyone else, just saying no player in the world is going to make Sean Avery class it up a little. Not happening. Because as soon as NYR get tired of his antics someone else will be waiting in the wings to sign or trade for him.

[interminded 1]

Dude, he did that s*** on a Det team that had captain class on it, Steve Yzerman, and guys like Lids, Draper, hell even Cheli wouldn't stoop that low, and he still did it in Det.

Yeah, that's true.

[Redline 0]

Poor Sean, he is so misunderstood.

[Opie 308]

Misunderstood???????

Do you mean as in the language he speaks is misunderstood by the people he is insulting, that he is not actually insulting, they just misunderstood the words coming out of his mouth?

OR

He is misunderstood in that no one gets him, that no one understands that he is not a complete and utter ****** Bag of a human being? That saying things that are completely disrespectful and wrong, is ok because he is just trying to get under their skin.

Because if it is the first I will take back everything I ever said about him being classless (I already did about calling him dirty), but if it is the second you are a poor misguided human being much like Sean Avery is!!!

Cancer is not funny, Alcoholism not funny, neither of those are acceptable for him to use as a way to draw people into a fight or penalties. You want to get under a guys skin, call him names, use a couple of your mama jokes, but illnesses are not ok. Hey even crack a joke at a guys wife (as long as she is not dying or an alcoholic) call her a ****, what ever, Reg Dunlap did it.

But their are certain things that just are not ok to crap on a guy about, and any one with an ounce of human decency knows where that line in the sand is. Avery has no idea where the sand even is, he is in his on boat in the ocean looking for a line in the sand.

[interminded 1]

Misunderstood???????

Do you mean as in the language he speaks is misunderstood by the people he is insulting, that he is not actually insulting, they just misunderstood the words coming out of his mouth?

OR

He is misunderstood in that no one gets him, that no one understands that he is not a complete and utter ****** Bag of a human being? That saying things that are completely disrespectful and wrong, is ok because he is just trying to get under their skin.

Because if it is the first I will take back everything I ever said about him being classless (I already did about calling him dirty), but if it is the second you are a poor misguided human being much like Sean Avery is!!!

Cancer is not funny, Alcoholism not funny, neither of those are acceptable for him to use as a way to draw people into a fight or penalties. You want to get under a guys skin, call him names, use a couple of your mama jokes, but illnesses are not ok. Hey even crack a joke at a guys wife (as long as she is not dying or an alcoholic) call her a ****, what ever, Reg Dunlap did it.

But their are certain things that just are not ok to crap on a guy about, and any one with an ounce of human decency knows where that line in the sand is. Avery has no idea where the sand even is, he is in his on boat in the ocean looking for a line in the sand.

Opie, I really think redline was somewhat sarcastic..

[Opie 308]

Oh my bad!!!!

[ben_usmc 253]

Yes he's an idiot and was a classless thing to say, but people on other message boards are talking about suspension. I don't agree with that, it should be taken care of on the ice, I believe we have something called freedom of speech regardless of how stupid people are

[Skiing - Puck 0]

I'll guarantee you something....the next time the Leafs play the Rangers (Dec. 6th), Wade Belak will play and Avery's going to be a marked man.

Someone will "kill" Avery

I think I will have to tune into that game.

[BlueMonk 102]

Avery alleges he's been libeled by Howard Berger.

[Skiing - Puck 0]

Avery alleges he's been libeled by Howard Berger.

If Avery was truly libeled, then I hope he wins the case because the media has no right to go making things like that up, it is not freedom of the press when facts are invented to sell a story or make someone look worse.

If the Leafs coach said that he did not hear about Avery's comments, and had no problem with Avery's actions then I doubt that the comment was even made because one of the players would have mentioned something to the coach.

[MacK_Attack 108]

If Avery was truly libeled, then I hope he wins the case because the media has no right to go making things like that up, it is not freedom of the press when facts are invented to sell a story or make someone look worse.

If the Leafs coach said that he did not hear about Avery's comments, and had no problem with Avery's actions then I doubt that the comment was even made because one of the players would have mentioned something to the coach.

Apparently Tucker had been mic'ed up by CBC, so there's a belief that the whole thing was recorded, but nobody seems to want to comfirm that.

Edited November 13, 2007 by MacK_Attack

[theman19 47]

that is so typical of a coward like avery. I have little doubt in my mind as to if he actually did this and i'm sure this isn't an isolated incident on his part. A coward would do something like this, and then blaim everyone but himself for doing the action.

I hope Belak knocks him into next year.

[Barrie 900]

I'm about 50/50 on this whole Avery-Tucker-Blake thing. I don't condone what Avery said, but I don't think it really should be as big a deal as the Toronto media is making it out to be. It's Avery, what do you expect? The guy's been doing this his entire career, there's a reason he's already on his 3rd team.

I think when it comes to comments like this, it should stay on the ice. Let the players work it out, which Tucker did when he fought Avery, so props to Tucker. Players say stuff to each other all the time on the ice, and it shouldn't be made public. All it does is create bad press. What Avery did is called getting under the opppnents skin and trying to get an edge, it happens all the time. I'm sure Mario Lemieux and Koivu heard about their medical conditions by opposing players, so I don't understand why the Leafs had to make Avery's comments public. Just deal with in on the ice, don't get the fans and media involved.

Actually I had to laugh when I saw the highlights of the warm ups. The smile on Avery's face was getting bigger and bigger, while Tucker was getting angrier and angrier. Tucker even tried to hit Avery in the neck with the blade of his stick. If Avery get's suspended or fined for what he said to Blake, I think Tucker should get suspended or fined for trying to use his stick as a weapon.

You gotta hand it to Avery for getting a Gordie Howe hattrick after what went on in warm ups. Plus Avery get's paid millions of dollars to get under people's skin. I think he does a good job at it.

I'll guarantee you something....the next time the Leafs play the Rangers (Dec. 6th), Wade Belak will play and Avery's going to be a marked man.

Someone will "kill" Avery

The best thing to do is for a opposing player to go after him, instead of getting the media involved. I think if it's being talked about in the media, it gives Avery more reason to continue his antics.

Just pound him, and he'll stop.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

I have a pretty tasteless sense of humor but theres a few things that are absolute no - no's. Cancer is one of them. If Avery made fun of Blake for that thats reallybad. However, stuff like making alcoholic jestures or telling someone to go have another drink like i believe Scott Stevens(?) said to Brantt Myhres before is well...pretty damn funny to me! Sorry...

[mooose kiiisses 0]

I don't think that anyone, not even Avery, would make fun of someone for having cancer.

anyone have any clips of the pre-game warm up scrum?

Edited November 14, 2007 by mooose kiiisses

[Barrie 900]

I don't think that anyone, not even Avery, would make fun of someone for having cancer.

anyone have any clips of the pre-game warm up scrum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0zQQZH_w1c...feature=related

This has the fight in the Game, along with Coaches Corner talking about the pregame stuff.

Edit: I gotta laugh seeing the smile on Avery's face get bigger and bigger. He knew he had Tucker where he wanted him.

At the end of the 2005-06 season I wanted Avery kicked out of the League, but if the NHL still wants him around, then this stuff is going to continue to happen.

Edited November 14, 2007 by Barrie