Senators, can they break the Wins record?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

They're playing sick hockey right now. They're scoring twice as much as they allow. Gerber is playing great. What's not to like about this team?

If memory serves, including the preseason they have lost 1 game all year. Pretty darn impressive.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

yea it is...but theyll run outa steam and the wings will blow by em =D

but they are playing great hockey

[BeeRYCE 2]

13-1-0... They're going to go 77-5-0 for sure!

Nah, they'll slip a little bit. The thing that makes that team so good is depth. Like it's not even Heatley, Spezza, Alfredsson... It's everything else. Eaves, Vermette, Fisher, Kelly, Mcammond, Foligno, Donovan, Neil, along with defensive defensemen and offensive ones too. Oh, did I mention two stellar goalies? I just find it hard to imagine a team like this in the salary cap era.

[WhiteLightning91 105]

I don't see why not. Spezza has been out the last 4 games and they have won all of them. I'm not doubting that we could survive without Datsyuk or Zetterberg for 4 days, but we know for sure Ottawa has the depth to do it, do we???

I hope we don't need to find out.

Edited November 7, 2007 by WhiteLightning91

[toby91_ca 620]

They're playing sick hockey right now. They're scoring twice as much as they allow. Gerber is playing great. What's not to like about this team?

If memory serves, including the preseason they have lost 1 game all year. Pretty darn impressive.

Yeah, including pre-season, they are 20-1 this year.

Way too early think think about them breaking the wins record, still a long way to go before getting there. They would have to fnish the year going 50-18. They are at a pace better than that, but they will obviously not keep that pace.

[betterREDthandead 58]

The default answer at this point of the season is no. Let's see how they do during the grind and the dog days of January and February before we put them on quite so high a pedestal.

[Dabura 12,232]

we know for sure Ottawa has the depth to do it, do we???

No, we don't.

[Kutcher 0]

Given how strong of a team they have, given not many injuries to too many key guys, give they have a weak conference, I think they might do it.

[wingslogo19 281]

There's no doubting that there playing great hockey. But at some point this pace has to slow down

[rick zombo 3,739]

They won't break the wins record, but they will win the cup. IMO

[DEVILSWATERBOY 10]

Bring this topic back up in March and we will see were they are at

[cincywingfan 1]

Now that ties are a thing of the past won't it be easier for someone to break the wins record?

[mwagner468 12]

who have they added sice last june? Isnt this the same tieam that the ducks crushed in 5 games?

[mmorland 16]

Can they? Yes

Will they? Possibly

Personally? I hope not.

[BeeRYCE 2]

Can they? Yes

Will they? Possibly

Personally? I hope not.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Louisville 112]

Depends on how well the top two lines hold up. TSN speculates Spezza's groin injury could be a little worse than the Sens are willing to admit. If so, it would be a blow to that line. I'm also not convinced Gerber is going to keep this pace.

[toby91_ca 620]

Now that ties are a thing of the past won't it be easier for someone to break the wins record?

Yes and no. There are probably more wins to be had now due to the shootout (inflating some goalie stats perhaps), but with the current environment (salary cap), the league is generally more even than in the past, it will be difficult to see a dynasty, so it is probably harder to win on any given night than it would have been in the past.

So, I'm on the side that thinks it is probably harder in today's game than in the past, but slightly offset by the shootout factor.

[Kp-Wings 3]

It's early in the season still.

Plus, the Senators always have a tendancy throughout their history to collapse before they do something actually noteworthy. Look at last year's SCF. That team was unstoppable, and then, all of a sudden, they roll over and die against Anaheim. The regular season wins record is obviously less spectacular than winning the Cup, but it's still a noteworthy achievement, and the Senators don't often have many of those. Their most noteworthy achievment was either making the SCF last year, or trading Yashin for Chara and the draft pick to land Spezza.

Don't get me wrong: I think the Sens are a great team. But, it's hard to keep up a pace like their on for an entire season.

Edited November 7, 2007 by Kp-Wings

[union drone 0]

Can the Sens break the Wings win record? Sure, why not? For that matter, any team (except maybe the Oilers or Yotes) still could if they went on an awesome tear the rest of the season. Heck, the Wings have almost as good of a chance as the Sens do.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Well Look at the teams the Sens have played

Toronto X 3 (6-7-3) .375

Devils X2 (5-7-2) .357

Rags X2 (7-7-1) .467

Thrashers X2 (6-9) .400

Canes (9-3-3) .600

Canadiens (8-3-3) .571

Panthers (7-8) .467

Bruins X2 (7-5-1) .538

I'll give them Props for beating the Habs, maybe the Bruins too, but the team with the best record theyve played so far is the Canes. Ironically, thats the only team theyve lost to as well. And when you look at the records for most of the teams in the East, its a lot of bad teams leaching points off one another. There are a lot of pretty sad teams in the East right now who, if they were in the West, would be doing a lot worse. IMO, if you took teams like the Flames, the Nucks, the Sharks, the Blues, theyd all be well over .500 in the East.

Edited November 7, 2007 by YoungGuns1340

[Dabura 12,232]

Well Look at the teams the Sens have played

Toronto X 3 (6-7-3) .375

Devils X2 (5-7-2) .357

Rags X2 (7-7-1) .467

Thrashers X2 (6-9) .400

Canes (9-3-3) .600

Canadiens (8-3-3) .571

Panthers (7-8) .467

Bruins X2 (7-5-1) .538

I'll give them Props for beating the Habs, maybe the Bruins too, but the team with the best record theyve played so far is the Canes. Ironically, thats the only team theyve lost to as well.

Good call.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

No, it'll be a new one in Ottawa, start strong, choke hard. I hate the sens and almost every scumbag that wears there jersey (Excluding Fisher, Heatley, Emery, Redden, McAmmond and Foligno).

They wont break the wins record or win the cup, Im tired of hearing Eugenue Melnyk saying how he's giving Wade Redden the "Stanley Cup Discount" What bulls***, did you not watch the finals last year Eugene? Your team got stomped into the ground, and wont have the chance to get stomped again this year.

BTW, The Wings have a better shot at beating the record then the Sens.

[Doggy 130]

Of course they can break the wins record. The Eastern conference is pathetic. 11 of the top 14 teams in the league right now are Western conference teams. Nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise. The parity between conferences is a joke. People say the Wings benefit from playing 32 games in a weak division... well the Senators play 72 games in a weak conference where most of the teams are worse than Chicago, Columbus, Nashville or St. Louis.

I watched the Sen v. Leafs game today and I was blown away at how pathetic the Leafs were. They gaveaway some of the worst turnorvers I've seen in a while. I'm shocked they only scored 5.

If there's one thing I learnt from watching that game - it's that no team in the West should be afraid of Ottawa.

[BlueMonk 102]

The Sens have done this (blazing starts) before. Right after the lockout, it was them and Detroit who were on pace to outscore their opposition by more than 2 goals per game, which I believe hadn't been done since the Canadiens dynasty. It lasted well into the season, longer than we've gone so far this year, but it didn't last forever. It's easier to get wins now with the shootouts, so who knows, maybe they can break the wins record.

Regardless, I don't think this Ottawa team is really that much better than everyone else. They don't have a lot of scoring depth and it's not like they're icing a roster full of HOFers the way the Habs teams of the 70s did. In the salary cap league, I think a team has to be on a mission to separate itself from the pack, which the Sens might be because of how last season ended. They have to approach regular season games like they're playoff games, because the talent is much more diluted around the league. The only problem with that is, you want your team to peak at the right time. After the Pistons lost in the NBA Finals in 2005, they came back with a vengeance in 2006 and broke the franchise record for wins, then promptly unraveled in the playoffs. If you're a Sens fan, you're probably excited by the way they're playing, but at the same time figure you've seen this show before, and didn't like the ending.

[StevieY9802 6]

It's possible but it's too early to tell. And you will stumble eventually. You can't keep up this pace all year. If they do I think they come apart in the playoffs. You just can't do it for 82 games and then 20+ playoff games. I still don't know how the Wings finished 96 with a record of 57-8-5. People thought the Coyotes could do it in 98-99 too anyone remember that? They finished 4th in the west behind Dal, Col and Det. Wait till Feb. or Mar. and then you can make a better guess.