redmathew 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2007 ya this is bad, but was it 4 games cause he broke a bone in his leg??? i wonder how many games he would have got, if koivu wasnt injured at all. http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=223181&hubname= The NHL has suspended Vancouver Canucks defenceman Mattias Ohlund for four games without pay for a slash on Minnesota's Mikko Koivu on Friday. The incident occurred at 16:06 of the third period when Ohlund struck Koivu. He was assessed a slashing major and game misconduct. Koivu suffered a broken bone in his left leg on the play. Ohlund will miss Sunday's game against Calgary, Tuesday's match in Edmonton, Wednesday's game in in Minnesota and a Friday game in St. Louis. He will be eligible to return next Sunday at home against Chicago. Video of slash: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auxlepli 17 Report post Posted November 18, 2007 The more incidents like these happen the more I'm behind the idea of the player who injures should be out the same amount time of the player who was injured. Only then players will learn to play fair. There was no reason whatsoever for Ohlund to slash Koivu, who is an up and coming player. The NHL needs to protect its potential star players, if for nothing else to market them and help increase the League's fan base. More goonery like this and it will be a league of goons - National League of Hockey Goons, NLHG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut40 176 Report post Posted November 18, 2007 GOD! How hard do you got to slash a guy to brake his frigin' leg?!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 GOD! How hard do you got to slash a guy to brake his frigin' leg?!?!?! Sometimes it looks innocuous but does a lot of damage. Remember when Allen slashed Zetterberg a few years ago and broke a bone in his leg? It didn't look bad at all to me when it happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 I've been reading a couple of posts on tsn.ca from Canuck fans who actually think Ohlund should not have been suspended because Koivu 'deserved it'. As if that is a reason for you to take a two hand axe job to the back of your leg. It was a dirty play and Ohlund got what he deserved. Canuck fans are almost as bad as Leaf fans and Pronger advocates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 The more incidents like these happen the more I'm behind the idea of the player who injures should be out the same amount time of the player who was injured. Only then players will learn to play fair. There was no reason whatsoever for Ohlund to slash Koivu, who is an up and coming player. The NHL needs to protect its potential star players, if for nothing else to market them and help increase the League's fan base. More goonery like this and it will be a league of goons - National League of Hockey Goons, NLHG. I'm completely against that and here's why. Lets say a key player on a team injures a 4th liner late in the year. Whats to stop that team from claiming their guy is still injured just to keep the offending player out of that team's lineup? Thats a major reason why that idea wont work. Way too much shadiness can surround it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobRouse03 31 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 I've been reading a couple of posts on tsn.ca from Canuck fans who actually think Ohlund should not have been suspended because Koivu 'deserved it'. As if that is a reason for you to take a two hand axe job to the back of your leg. It was a dirty play and Ohlund got what he deserved. Canuck fans are almost as bad as Leaf fans and Pronger advocates. Not to defend Ohland, but that's the chance Koivu takes for throwing an elbow at a player. Ohlund should be suspended, but I see why he did what he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 The more incidents like these happen the more I'm behind the idea of the player who injures should be out the same amount time of the player who was injured. Well, in this case, Koivu is out a week-to-10 days. So I'd say that is exactly what has happened in this case, ironically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PenaltyShot 96 521 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 To me the slash looked like heat of the moment retaliation. That's definitely not an excuse for it, but still, we are talking about a fracture break, right? I wonder, will this affect Ohlund's votes for the All Star game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auxlepli 17 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 I'm completely against that and here's why. Lets say a key player on a team injures a 4th liner late in the year. Whats to stop that team from claiming their guy is still injured just to keep the offending player out of that team's lineup? Thats a major reason why that idea wont work. Way too much shadiness can surround it. Agreed, but there's gotta be some kind of work around that. Anyway, to all the Canuck fans, two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do. It is ironic Mack_Attack, but that's not always the case. That Boston player might not ever play again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) It is ironic Mack_Attack, but that's not always the case. That Boston player might not ever play again. Which is why it would be foolish to have that kind of discipline implemented. It's not right to kick a player out of hockey on an accidental play like that, especially a guy with no priors like Randy Jones. If guys are playing like the next hit they throw or the next time they go into the corner could get them kicked out of hockey, the physical play (what's left of it) in the game will disappear. Edited November 19, 2007 by MacK_Attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kutcher 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 I agree with Kypreos and think 1 game would have been enough. Koivu deserved it and that's what makes it right. IMO Koivu should be suspended as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Well i think 4 games might be a bit much for this one.. Randy Jones only got 2 games and who knows if Patrice will even come back this year and play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 GOD! How hard do you got to slash a guy to brake his frigin' leg?!?!?! Remember when Igor Larionov gave Steve Smith a weak one-handed tap in the back of the leg and broke it? Apparently, if you hit just right and/or a number of other factors come into play...you don't have to hit hard at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auxlepli 17 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Remember when Igor Larionov gave Steve Smith a weak one-handed tap in the back of the leg and broke it? Apparently, if you hit just right and/or a number of other factors come into play...you don't have to hit hard at all. That's a very good point. I remember one time I got off a snide comment to a coworker. She retaliated by throwing a crumbled up paper ball at me. It hit me square in the privates. It wasn't her intent, but she might as well have kicked me there. I doubled over, she said stop joking, and I'm like, "I'm not joking!" Just hit the right spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoePuckster 4 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Bettman thinks a suspension is necessary for a little chop like that? So ridiculous. This game is turning into one for Sally's... w w w . F i r e B e t t m a n . c o m Bettman's gotta go!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 I'm completely against that and here's why. Lets say a key player on a team injures a 4th liner late in the year. Whats to stop that team from claiming their guy is still injured just to keep the offending player out of that team's lineup? Thats a major reason why that idea wont work. Way too much shadiness can surround it. Not only that, but can you imagine the gentlemanship going on if players knew their actions could hold long, long consequences? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Bettman thinks a suspension is necessary for a little chop like that? So ridiculous. This game is turning into one for Sally's... w w w . F i r e B e t t m a n . c o m Bettman's gotta go!!! #1 - it wasn't just a little chop, it was pretty bad #2 - he agrees with the punishment, his team does, why are you complaining? #3 - please help me understand how Bettman is involved in this suspension. I'm starting to hate myself for all the Bettman defenses, because I really dislike the guy, but I find he gets WAY TOO MUCH negativity thrown his way for things he doesn't even control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob the Badger 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 If players who injure other players were suspended until the vicitim of the hit/slash/attack returned to the ice, the cheap shot element would most likely go down... but that isn't what happened here. Also, Bertuzzi would still be off the ice because Moore is out permanently. That would be a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Video of slash: Sonofabitch! I hope Boogeyman nails him in their next matchup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 If players who injure other players were suspended until the vicitim of the hit/slash/attack returned to the ice, the cheap shot element would most likely go down... but that isn't what happened here. Also, Bertuzzi would still be off the ice because Moore is out permanently. That would be a good thing. Either two things would happen. First, hitting and possiblly poke checking will greatly disappear for fear of suspension. I say poke checking because should a player go for the puck he could hit the other player, injure said player, and become a cloud of suspended smoke. Second, star players get suspended for long periods of time. Either way not very good for the game IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted November 19, 2007 ya this is bad, but was it 4 games cause he broke a bone in his leg??? i wonder how many games he would have got, if koivu wasnt injured at all. http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=223181&hubname= Video of slash: If you want to see Homerism at its finest you have to visit the canucks board. They are just livid that Ohlund got suspended for as many games as he did. There's probably 5 people on that board that think he got what he deserved but most of the rest of those idiots think that 1. Ohlund shoud've gotten maybe 1-2 games, if any, 2. That Gaborik should've been suspended at least 5 games for elbowing Kelser and 3. That Koivu (the victim) should've been suspended at least a game or 2 or as long as Ohlund for giving Ohlund the elbow which enraged him enough to pull a lumberjack on Koivu's leg. I've visited a couple other teams boards and by far the fanboys of Vancouver are the worst. They're absolutely terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Call me a sadist, but I found the Ohlund slash hillarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 Who cares, If Koivu got hurt because od Ohlund, gueese what? one of Koivu's teammates should go up and f*** Ohlund up for being a ******. I'am starting to hate hockey more and more because of weak s*** like this. Hockey isnt an agressive sport anymore. Its Soccer on skates. and it sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 #1 - it wasn't just a little chop, it was pretty bad #2 - he agrees with the punishment, his team does, why are you complaining? #3 - please help me understand how Bettman is involved in this suspension. I'm starting to hate myself for all the Bettman defenses, because I really dislike the guy, but I find he gets WAY TOO MUCH negativity thrown his way for things he doesn't even control. I hate Bettman, but agree here. It's Campbell who handles these things, not Bettman. 4 games is decent. I wish it would've been a game or two more, which honestly would've been a bit much, but that's kind of the point. Keep fighting in the game, but get rid of stickwork like that. Personally I'd rather see someone like Koivu or Zetterberg on the ice than have them sidelined because of someone whacking them with a two-hander. There's better ways to handle the elbow that Koivu threw. Who cares, If Koivu got hurt because od Ohlund, gueese what? one of Koivu's teammates should go up and f*** Ohlund up for being a ******. I'am starting to hate hockey more and more because of weak s*** like this. Hockey isnt an agressive sport anymore. Its Soccer on skates. and it sucks. really? because I'm starting to feel the same way about you as you do about hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites