For those of you who don't understand the waiver wire system

[Guest Crymson]

Last night, visitors to this board were victims to a multitude of posts berating Ken Holland for not picking up Ilya Bryzgalov (this was in the context of bashing Dominik Hasek for his performance in goal that night). I am here to tell you that those posts originate from people whose hockey knowledge is less than complete.

The waiver wire goes as such:

1) When put on waivers, a player must not be picked up by any team in order to be able to go down to the minor leagues.

2) When a player is on waivers, other teams can choose to acquire that player. They will only be responsible for 50% of that player's salary.

3) Most importantly, for this post: there is an order in which teams have access to players on waivers. The team with the worst record in the prior season will have first access to acquiring that player; that is, should two teams attempt to acquire the player, then the team with the worst record in the previous season will be given precedence. The team with the second-worst record in the previous season will be the next team down on the precedence chain, and so on down the line to the team with the best record in the previous season.

The important point of this post? The Coyotes had the 30th-best record in the league last season. As such, they got the proverbial first crack at Bryzgalov and they took him. The Wings had the 2nd best record in the league last season. For Holland to have been able to acquire Ilya Bryzgalov, Phoenix and 27 other teams would have needed to have passed on Bryzgalov first. Needless to say, this did not happen. We will never know whether or not Holland would have acquired Bryzgalov from waivers if given the chance; however, Holland simply did not have the chance to do so.

Kapish?

Edited November 19, 2007 by Crymson

[Grittzkey 1]

Kapeesh.

[rick zombo 3,739]

2) When a player is on waivers, other teams can choose to acquire that player. They will only be responsible for 50% of that player's salary.

Kapish?

They are responsible for 100% of that players wagers aren't they?

If the player clears waivers and gets sent to the minors he can still be claimed by another team when he gets called up, then that team only pays 50%. Right?

[Barrie 900]

Good post Crymson. Yea some people need a lesson on some of this stuff.

When I heard Bryzgalov was on waivers I thought, "Wouldn't that be nice", but knew there was no chance 28 teams would pass on him.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the next person who's put on waivers, Phoenix is now 30th in pecking order since they already picked someone up. Right?

[Izzy24 44]

I don't care what you say, Holland shoulda made it happen.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

I don't care what you say, Holland shoulda made it happen.

haha yea

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I don't care what you say, Holland shoulda made it happen.

Maybe he was too busy trying to swing a deal for Luongo?

[Flip-check 6]

Maybe he was too busy trying to swing a deal for Luongo?

To quote Supes' archnemesis: WRONG!

He was busy grabbing for Sundin, Lecavelier, Nash, and talking to Selanne about how much he'd like "the Motor *nudgenudge* City". Come on harold, you know Kenny multi-tasks!!

[al48 1]

Last night, visitors to this board were victims to a multitude of posts berating Ken Holland for not picking up Ilya Bryzgalov (this was in the context of bashing Dominik Hasek for his performance in goal that night). I am here to tell you that those posts originate from people whose hockey knowledge is less than complete.

The waiver wire goes as such:

1) When put on waivers, a player must not be picked up by any team in order to be able to go down to the minor leagues.

2) When a player is on waivers, other teams can choose to acquire that player. They will only be responsible for 50% of that player's salary.

3) Most importantly, for this post: there is an order in which teams have access to players on waivers. The team with the worst record in the prior season will have first access to acquiring that player; that is, should two teams attempt to acquire the player, then the team with the worst record in the previous season will be given precedence. The team with the second-worst record in the previous season will be the next team down on the precedence chain, and so on down the line to the team with the best record in the previous season.

The important point of this post? The Coyotes had the 30th-best record in the league last season. As such, they got the proverbial first crack at Bryzgalov and they took him. The Wings had the 2nd best record in the league last season. For Holland to have been able to acquire Ilya Bryzgalov, Phoenix and 27 other teams would have needed to have passed on Bryzgalov first. Needless to say, this did not happen. We will never know whether or not Holland would have acquired Bryzgalov from waivers if given the chance; however, Holland simply did not have the chance to do so.

Kapish?

Mostly correct, but after November 1st it goes by current rankings in the league and the team that claims the player is responsible for the full amount of the contract minus salary already paid.

Edited November 19, 2007 by al48

[Cicada 4]

Mostly correct, but after November 1st it goes by current rankings in the league and the team that claims the player is responsible for the full amount of the contract minus salary already paid.

unless it's on reentry waivers, then it's 50%

[norrisnick 1]

And to complete the lesson, the Yotes cannot trade Bryzgalov for the rest of the season without first offering him up for free to any other team that put in a claim for him (it isn't an actual draft like order where you wait your turn, you put in claims and then they sort through them to see who has priority).

[Guest Crymson]

So there you have it, Holland-bashers of Saturday night; your comments were in error.

[dustin35 0]

Who cares we have Chris Osgood!

enough said

[Hank 0]

Good post Crymson. Yea some people need a lesson on some of this stuff.

When I heard Bryzgalov was on waivers I thought, "Wouldn't that be nice", but knew there was no chance 28 teams would pass on him.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the next person who's put on waivers, Phoenix is now 30th in pecking order since they already picked someone up. Right?

That's correct. It's only after they clear waivers a 2nd time (called back up) that the players salary is split between both teams.

Phoenix is on the hook for 100% of his salary.