11/24 GDT: Blue Jackets 3, Red Wings 2 (SO)

[IceMunkee 15]

I absolutely love in LGW that Dom has a bad game and you want to send him to the gallow's. Ozzy has an awful game and everyone is saying, "nice try, oz, you had a good game"!

How does Ozzy have a good game. He let in two goals. One of which was a complete joke! Should have never went in the net! If that did not even happen he let in ALL THREE SHOOTOUT GOALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really how does that define a good game? All three penalty shots were decent but nothing impossible to stop, he cannot let in all three and still be considered for a good performance.

I am offiacally anouncing the Oust Ozzy Organization.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I know, it's frustrating. I think it's a combination of not attacking these games the way they need to and some bad luck. Chicago has played well against the Wings, but not 4-0 good. The Wings have led in almost every game but the Hawks and other teams in the Central use Detroit as a measuring stick game. The Wings do need to make an adjustment and attack these teams the way they do the traditionally good squads. They haven't done that yet.

I guess you'll be replacing Heroes of Hockeytown as my personal demigog of reason!

Edited November 25, 2007 by Drake_Marcus

[Offsides 21]

I absolutely love in LGW that Dom has a bad game and you want to send him to the gallow's. Ozzy has an awful game and everyone is saying, "nice try, oz, you had a good game"!

How does Ozzy have a good game. He let in two goals. One of which was a complete joke! Should have never went in the net! If that did not even happen he let in ALL THREE SHOOTOUT GOALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really how does that define a good game? All three penalty shots were decent but nothing impossible to stop, he cannot let in all three and still be considered for a good performance.

I am offiacally anouncing the Oust Ozzy Organization.

that was a good one.

Edited November 25, 2007 by Offsides

[Jwo 7]

Did not get a good chance to watch the game but saw the Blue Jackets using the 1-2-2 (trap)

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

I absolutely love in LGW that Dom has a bad game and you want to send him to the gallow's. Ozzy has an awful game and everyone is saying, "nice try, oz, you had a good game"!

How does Ozzy have a good game. He let in two goals. One of which was a complete joke! Should have never went in the net! If that did not even happen he let in ALL THREE SHOOTOUT GOALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really how does that define a good game? All three penalty shots were decent but nothing impossible to stop, he cannot let in all three and still be considered for a good performance.

I am offiacally anouncing the Oust Ozzy Organization.

Copy and pasted this because you two are (unfortunatly) like-minded

We werent on Hasek after one bad game. Ozzie had one bad goal otherwise he was spectacular. Without him standing on his head in the second we wouldnt even have gone to the shut out.

Comparing that to 6 games of sub 70% save percentage from Hasek is ridiculous and due to it your opinions lose all authority and respect from this board.

Consistancy is the name of the game, and seeing as Hasek is consistant at sucking thats why he gets the boot.

[OsGOD 3]

I dunno on the 2nd goal i just have to wonder how the two BJ's got between our entire team and Ozzie and were allowed to make the deflection... our entire team was absent... on that play.

[digitaljohn88 4]

osgood saved 26/28 shots, had one bad goal but made many spectacular saves and held out in the 3rd and OT.

sure, he didn't do great in the shootout, but the shootout doesnt even exist come playoff time.

at least we got the point.

[Guest MrSandMan]

We werent on Hasek after one bad game. Ozzie had one bad goal otherwise was spectacular. Comparing that to 6 games of sub 70% save percentage from Hasek is ridiculous and due to it your opinions lose all authority and respect from this board.

That's awful bold and ridiculous at the same time. I'm scratching my head right now trying to figure out how you wish to speak alone for your isolated army... of judges all across the boards? That's laughable!

Well since I lose all "authority" and "respect" from your fabricated stand alone army from ALL across the boards throughout the nation of mankind... (which is hilarious!) I won't bring up the fact that whether we lose 4-2 or 3-2 it's still a "L". When the team doesn't show up, it makes any goalie look bad. Unless, of course, they fail at stopping a shot from the blue line or allowing 3 goals one on one in a shootout.

I'll have to refresh my memory as to when was the last time The Dom allowed three goals in three shots in OT shootout.

You argue that it's okay for ozzy to get a pat on the back for being streaky and winning the "L".. even though he fails at stopping a medocre shot from the blue line. And allowing 3 shootout goals. I'm glad he redeemed his failure from the 1st period and got us 1pt. But to say Ozzie is overall better than Hasek makes you "lose all authority and respect from this board." Dom is an allstar goalie that proved himself over the years. He's known to have slow starts. Ozzie is known to be a floater and can't find a #1 spot. Wonder why that is?

Look at Dom's career numbers and look at ozzy's career numbers.. then do the math. And to think Dom won't turn around his sub-par playing is pure ignorance at it's finest, and ignorance is bliss. Please don't breed.

...and I'm done with you!

P.S. F-You Dom haters. Prepare to eat crow!

Edited November 25, 2007 by MrSandMan

[Viperar 16]

man forget the goalies for 1 freakin second...will everyone stfu with the ozzie dom crap, why not look at some of the gaping holes in our actual team. The problem here in detroit is its always easy to blame the goalies, and sometimes it is their fault. But there is a reason we keep losing to the central teams, and i guarantee you everytime it hasnt just been the goalies.

Last time i checked hockey is played with 3 forward, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie....its called a team.

How about

1. our lack of sustained pressure in their zone

2. our lack of being able to deal with the oddman rushes

3. our horrible choice in shots

4. our depth, where ZDH produces together, but cant apart, and occasionally we get great output from guys on a one man basis but never as a line, maybe occasionally the lines of drapes, cleary and the hard grinders, but they cannot carry a secondary scoring role.

why not address those issues before crucifying our goalies, who have been mediocre at times, but cannot be depended on to win every single game. THIS is the problem we currently face in detroit, and LGW representing the Red Wings fanbase only makes this more clear as a small excerpt of what most Red Wing fans feel.

[IceMunkee 15]

Copy and pasted this because you two are (unfortunatly) like-minded

We werent on Hasek after one bad game. Ozzie had one bad goal otherwise he was spectacular. Without him standing on his head in the second we wouldnt even have gone to the shut out.

Comparing that to 6 games of sub 70% save percentage from Hasek is ridiculous and due to it your opinions lose all authority and respect from this board.

Consistancy is the name of the game, and seeing as Hasek is consistant at sucking thats why he gets the boot.

First of all I would like to note that you were on Hasek after just a bad performance and his team not performing well. How, EZ Bake oven, did you figure out that he has 70% save percentage when he has a .864 save percentage which would equate to a 86%! So math class would be great. Ofcourse I needed my friends help to verify. Ofcourse Ozzy is playing better he has had alot more starts. Dom is a better goalie, that fact has been proven time and time again. Ozzy is a splendid goalie. I love him. I am all about the detroit tandem. I am not all about people being tools.

Oh and the game went to a shootout, not a shut out. If it did then I don't think it would have been a SHOOTout.

That's awful bold and ridiculous at the same time. I'm scratching my head right now trying to figure out how you wish to speak alone for your isolated army... of judges all across the boards? That's laughable!

Well since I lose all "authority" and "respect" from your fabricated stand alone army from ALL across the boards throughout the nation of mankind... (which is hilarious!) I won't bring up the fact that whether we lose 4-2 or 3-2 it's still a "L". When the team doesn't show up, it makes any goalie look bad. Unless, of course, they fail at stopping a shot from the blue line or allowing 3 goals one on one in a shootout.

I'll have to refresh my memory as to when was the last time The Dom allowed three goals in three shots in OT shootout.

You argue that it's okay for ozzy to get a pat on the back for being streaky and winning the "L".. even though he fails at stopping a medocre shot from the blue line. And allowing 3 shootout goals. I'm glad he redeemed his failure from the 1st period and got us 1pt. But to say Ozzie is overall better than Hasek makes you "lose all authority and respect from this board." Dom is an allstar goalie that proved himself over the years. He's known to have slow starts. Ozzie is known to be a floater and can't find a #1 spot. Wonder why that is?

Look at Dom's career numbers and look at ozzy's career numbers.. then do the math. And to think Dom won't turn around his sub-par playing is pure ignorance at it's finest, and ignorance is bliss. Please don't breed.

...and I'm done with you!

P.S. F-You Dom haters. Prepare to eat crow!

[OsGOD 3]

LoL i love being part of an elite group on this board... Only thing better than the group i just joined is my crew of Kick ass Pirates

<--- still able to defer to my avatar

Go Ozzie! Number can't all lie...Still the best goalie we have on this team right now!

2.00 GAA and a 92.8 S%... YUP s***ty game by the oz man for sure!

Edited November 25, 2007 by OsGOD

[Viperar 16]

lol osgod the only thing youre elite at being is a butt pirate

[IceMunkee 15]

Attention fellow Ozzie fans, we have a hasek cock rider on board. sound the alarm.

You belong in my garage, it is full of tools!!!

man forget the goalies for 1 freakin second...will everyone stfu with the ozzie dom crap, why not look at some of the gaping holes in our actual team. The problem here in detroit is its always easy to blame the goalies, and sometimes it is their fault. But there is a reason we keep losing to the central teams, and i guarantee you everytime it hasnt just been the goalies.

Last time i checked hockey is played with 3 forward, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie....its called a team.

How about

1. our lack of sustained pressure in their zone

2. our lack of being able to deal with the oddman rushes

3. our horrible choice in shots

4. our depth, where ZDH produces together, but cant apart, and occasionally we get great output from guys on a one man basis but never as a line, maybe occasionally the lines of drapes, cleary and the hard grinders, but they cannot carry a secondary scoring role.

why not address those issues before crucifying our goalies, who have been mediocre at times, but cannot be depended on to win every single game. THIS is the problem we currently face in detroit, and LGW representing the Red Wings fanbase only makes this more clear as a small excerpt of what most Red Wing fans feel.

I agree.

lol osgod the only thing youre elite at being is a butt pirate

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OsGOD 3]

lol osgod the only thing youre elite at being is a butt pirate

No need to be hating... Dom will pick it up... or so you hope

<-- still defering to my Avatar

I know it will take a bit before the back up sees any playing time... but i am sure dom will make the most of it when he gets the chance.

Edited November 25, 2007 by OsGOD

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

First of all I would like to note that you were on Hasek after just a bad performance and his team not performing well. How, EZ Bake oven, did you figure out that he has 70% save percentage when he has a .864 save percentage which would equate to a 86%! So math class would be great. Ofcourse I needed my friends help to verify. Ofcourse Ozzy is playing better he has had alot more starts. Dom is a better goalie, that fact has been proven time and time again. Ozzy is a splendid goalie. I love him. I am all about the detroit tandem. I am not all about people being tools.

Oh and the game went to a shootout, not a shut out. If it did then I don't think it would have been a SHOOTout.

Ahh the internet, perfect for made up personas in which one appears witty. pointing out mispellings dosent leave me "OMFGZ PWNED LOLZ"

He let in 8 goals on 24 shots through 3 games. It's called exagerating to prove a point, which people do in real life, but since your afraid to leave the confines of your "totally deked out computer room" in your mom's basement you wouldnt really understand sarcasm, or exageration as they are hard to translate over text. Ask your online girlfreind about it, maybe she'll know about it.

"Dom is a better goalie, It has been proven time and time again"

HOW IS THIS RELEVANT NOW? Thats like me saying it was ok for you to be a near penniless bum, beause right out of college you were. NOT EVERYTHING IS HELD IN ******* CONSTANT YOU DUMBASS ******

With your witty response you failed to respond to the fact that even though ozzy didn't play well, Hasek has been god awful all season.

MOUTH IS READY FOR CROW! IM WATING!

Edited November 25, 2007 by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA

[Viperar 16]

lol osgod im completely neutral on the whole ozzie hasek war...i want whichever goalie will help the wings win the cup, currently i think teamwork between both goalies will get us there, but we'll see

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

That's awful bold and ridiculous at the same time. I'm scratching my head right now trying to figure out how you wish to speak alone for your isolated army... of judges all across the boards? That's laughable!

Well since I lose all "authority" and "respect" from your fabricated stand alone army from ALL across the boards throughout the nation of mankind... (which is hilarious!) I won't bring up the fact that whether we lose 4-2 or 3-2 it's still a "L". When the team doesn't show up, it makes any goalie look bad. Unless, of course, they fail at stopping a shot from the blue line or allowing 3 goals one on one in a shootout.

I'll have to refresh my memory as to when was the last time The Dom allowed three goals in three shots in OT shootout.

You argue that it's okay for ozzy to get a pat on the back for being streaky and winning the "L".. even though he fails at stopping a medocre shot from the blue line. And allowing 3 shootout goals. I'm glad he redeemed his failure from the 1st period and got us 1pt. But to say Ozzie is overall better than Hasek makes you "lose all authority and respect from this board." Dom is an allstar goalie that proved himself over the years. He's known to have slow starts. Ozzie is known to be a floater and can't find a #1 spot. Wonder why that is?

Look at Dom's career numbers and look at ozzy's career numbers.. then do the math. And to think Dom won't turn around his sub-par playing is pure ignorance at it's finest, and ignorance is bliss. Please don't breed.

...and I'm done with you!

P.S. F-You Dom haters. Prepare to eat crow!

Mock my figure of speach all you want, in the end it is you who is delusional. your lame argument is prone to many counterpoints. You will never hear me say that Osgood was a better goalie in his prime than Dom was in his, however you can make a favorable comparison to Mike Tyson fighting Muhammed Ali today. Ali may have been the best ever but he would get his utter s*** raped, not unlike the girl who you claim is your girlfreind.

I am well aware of that fact and am the very opposite of uniformed and Ignorant on the subject.

As for the last time Hasek let in 3 straight shootout goals, I don't remember also, but I do remember games that Hasek lost in regulation that Osgood would have at least drawn to a shootout.

GG dumbass

[Kp-Wings 3]

[IceMunkee 15]

Ahh the internet, perfect for made up personas in which one appears witty. pointing out mispellings dosent leave me "OMFGZ PWNED LOLZ"

He let in 8 goals on 24 shots through 3 games. It's called exagerating to prove a point, which people do in real life, but since your afraid to leave the confines of your "totally deked out computer room" in your mom's basement you wouldnt really understand sarcasm, or exageration as they are hard to translate over text. Ask your online girlfreind about it, maybe she'll know about it.

With your witty response you failed to respond to the fact that even though ozzy didn't play well, Hasek has been god awful all season.

MOUTH IS READY FOR CROW! IM WATING!

It is still an awsome thing to me that whenever someone is "out-witted" on the computer they always resort to you live in your mom's basement and you have an online girlfriend. The fact is you sound like a 12 year old boy that gets picked on in gym class becuase his whitey tighties have tread marks and your here to join a club to make yourself fell like you have friends. Really you might be 25 and sucessful, but this is what you sound like. All of which makes no differance. All you can say is numbers this and numbers that. All the Dom fans can say is numbers this and numbers that. The only fact that remains true is that all of these numbers are in the past. Each and every player is only as good as their last performance.

I have a feeling that I will not be the one eating crow. Oh and I am not wating either. I am waiting though.

Mock my figure of speach all you want, in the end it is you who is delusional. your lame argument is prone to many counterpoints. You will never hear me say that Osgood was a better goalie in his prime than Dom was in his, however you can make a favorable comparison to Mike Tyson fighting Muhammed Ali today. Ali may have been the best ever but he would get his utter s*** raped, not unlike the girl who you claim is your girlfreind.

I am well aware of that fact and am the very opposite of uniformed and Ignorant on the subject.

As for the last time Hasek let in 3 straight shootout goals, I don't remember also, but I do remember games that Hasek lost in regulation that Osgood would have at least drawn to a shootout.

GG dumbass

Wait. Was Mike Tyson's last fight fixed? Thus leading into an arguement that alot of his fights may have been. Again, your a tool.

And really Ms. Cleo do you really KNOW that Ozzy would have drawn to a shootout? Maybe he would of had a shutout, maybe he would have been destroyed. The fact is you don't know what he would have done. Even if Ozzy would have went to a shootout he would have let in all three goals.

Edited November 25, 2007 by IceMunkee

[vangvace 12]

Last time i checked hockey is played with 3 forward, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie....its called a team.

How about

1. our lack of sustained pressure in their zone

2. our lack of being able to deal with the oddman rushes

3. our horrible choice in shots

4. our depth, where ZDH produces together, but cant apart, and occasionally we get great output from guys on a one man basis but never as a line, maybe occasionally the lines of drapes, cleary and the hard grinders, but they cannot carry a secondary scoring role.

1 Definitely an issue. Difficult to address short term due to the makeup of the current team.

2 This one worries me, but I'm hoping for improvements during the season. I contribute this as a problem of pairing chemistry and the relative inexperience half of the blueline still. Leaning more to inexperience though.

3 Is it just me or has quality shot selection gone down dramatically since the lockout and could this also be contributed to playing largely the same system since Bowman and other teams have adapted? Something I noticed last year and the handful of games I have seen this year is that they seem to be aiming for the logo. Or at least the logo magically appears by the time the shot is off. Side note: I would like to see Sammy go to a wooden stick, or at least change to a different, more accurate, stick.

4 Depth is an issue and sadly I don't see it getting fixed at the trade deadline (Even though we will get a rent-a-player). ZDH not being able to do produce nearly as well when separated is a major issue. Even though it's an unpopular opinion the line has to be broken up throughout the season. They need to develop better chemistry with the other players on the team. I also find it interesting that there is more positive talk surrounding Drake, Downey, Kopecky, Ellis than Sammy, Hudler, Filppula, Franzen.

I do like the move of putting Hudler on the proverbial fourthline and second unit PP. I feel that this is a better fit for him being used as a PP specialist. Folks might ***** because he is being "snubbed" in minutes and yada-yada, but he is on the PP and in the new NHL that still makes him a busy Swede.

The depth problems may also be in part due to the teams makeup since the 2002 cup. In particular prelockout when player development was used more for deadline trades. Since the lockout player development was rushed when holes needed to be filled and it shows now on the ice. (Please note that this entire paragraph might be wrong I am too lazy to research right now)

Hope all that made sense...

Edited November 25, 2007 by vangvace

[OsGOD 3]

Even after Osgood horrific game last night....

<--- still defering to avatar, not every stat can lie

I am more concerned that the "elite" goalie for past performances appears not only on the bottom here, but the league in general. But alas he will be an all-star this season ... LOL @ the NHL... way to applaud mediocrity!

Edited November 25, 2007 by OsGOD

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Very nice game last night! This is the way hockey's supposed to be played folks....with alot of passion and not just a bunch of fancy shmancy crap! Both of these games against the Jackets have been entertaining, this one especially. Downey definitely has an effect on the whole team when he's in there.

As for the fights, Downey/Shelley was an uneventful draw. Downey/Boll, looking at it unbiasedly, you've gotta give it to Boll. He was definitely more effective early on than Downey was late....score that one an upset. Good, exciting tilt anyway though.

[OsGOD 3]

Very nice game last night! This is the way hockey's supposed to be played folks....with alot of passion and not just a bunch of fancy shmancy crap! Both of these games against the Jackets have been entertaining, this one especially. Downey definitely has an effect on the whole team when he's in there.

As for the fights, Downey/Shelley was an uneventful draw. Downey/Boll, looking at it unbiasedly, you've gotta give it to Boll. He was definitely more effective early on than Downey was late....score that one an upset. Good, exciting tilt anyway though.

LoL... i have been told i need to support downey and everything... but well Dammit Boll is my homeboy so yeah... but i am glad an unbiased Lou, also was giving that fight to Boll!

Putting everything aside... HOLY CRAP... BRING BACK FIGHTING!

Boll fights as much as Downey ... just get way more games to do it in... I will grow a liking to downey for sure! so long as he keeps up the fighting aspect of the game.

Edited November 25, 2007 by OsGOD

[Lou_Siffer 1]

LoL... i have been told i need to support downey and everything... but well Dammit Boll is my homeboy so yeah... but i am glad an unbiased Lou, also was giving that fight to Boll!

Putting everything aside... HOLY CRAP... BRING BACK FIGHTING!

Boll fights as much as Downey ... just get way more games to do it in... I will grow a liking to downey for sure! so long as he keeps up the fighting aspect of the game.

Dont get me wrong, I tried to look for every way possible to give it to my boy Downey But to no avail. I may be a Downey homer in other aspects, but when it comes fights gotta call it like i see it no matter who it is.

Jared Boll is damn entertaining though! The more i watch him, the more im liking him.

[Herr Hockey 0]

Considering the second goal on ozzie traveled its first 20 feet on the surface of the ice, but ended up going in top corner, I think it's safe to say that the deflection was nothing short of ridiculous.