Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted December 30, 2007 just got this off tsn .. Rob Blake would be attractive to many NHL teams at the league trade deadline or sooner, and the former Avalanche defenseman said he would consider waiving his clause to go to the right team. "(The Kings) would have to come to me first, but, yeah, it's a possibility," Blake said, after Saturday's 3-1 Kings victory over the Avs. - Denver Post I know some of you will say hes old and washed up but i think it has more to do with the fact that he plays for the l.a kings , the whole team defensivly is a disaster , i think he would do awesome here and we need to get someone to replace lilja in the playoffs before he costs us again , would blake wouldnt cost us too much im guessing considering he hasnt had a great year and that the kings would get rid of a big salary We got the cap space so it makes sense lidstrom rafalski blake kronwall lebda chelios i love it thoughts ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al48 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) I don't know...Have you watched him play much this year? He's pretty damn bad. I watch the Kings a lot, because I live in LA and my gf is a huge Kings fan. He's just so terrible around his own net this past couple years. It seems like he just stands there. There's a reason the Kings suck, and it starts with their terrible defense, led by Blake. EDIT: all that said, he did lay out Corey Perry pretty good this year. Edited December 30, 2007 by al48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mule39 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 I'd take him over Lilja any day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al48 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) I'd take him over Lilja any day. I can't say I would. First, it's not going to happen, because Lombardi wants prospects and/or draft picks. The guy is all about building for the "future". Who are you going to give up for a worthless Blake considering that this team is winning? Are you going to give up picks? You gonna give up a Hudler for a washed up Blake? Seriously. He's not good anymore. His offensive output sucks, his defense sucks, and the Wings are winning. EDIT: also, Blake is ranked 16th on the Kings in Plus/Minus with a minus 8 Edited December 30, 2007 by al48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shannyfan1414 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 I don't think that i would jump on this one. Blake was a great player back in the day. And yes the Kings blow this year. If Blake was still a solid player, well i don't think that he would be kicking a -8 on the season and be ranked 16 on his own team. In my eyes that just means that he either A. doesn't care anymore or B. he is washed up and just can't play like he use to play. Lilja did make some mistakes over the last couple of years. And i hated him more then most people did i think. However, I do think that he is getting better with every game. He will never be a top 3 D man on any team. But i think that he is a respectable player now who has played well over this season and will be fine once we get to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) Lilja did make some mistakes over the last couple of years. And i hated him more then most people did i think. However, I do think that he is getting better with every game. He will never be a top 3 D man on any team. But i think that he is a respectable player now who has played well over this season and will be fine once we get to the playoffs. Have you not watched a single game this year? He made another mistake just last night that resulted in another goal. He does that at least every other game. Blake may be washed up, but you have to think of it this way; a washed up Blake is better than Lilja ever will be. And since Lilja will be gone after this year, since he knows he could probably find more playing time on another team and make a little more, it's not like we are holding back one of our young guys. Lilja has no future with this team. The only problem is that we will likely be outbid by another team for his services. Bring Blake in. He can't do any worse than Lilja, but he can be a lot more physical. Edited December 30, 2007 by WhiteLightning91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Please no, we got rid of our dead weight last season, no need to bring in some more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al48 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Have you not watched a single game this year? He made another mistake just last night that resulted in another goal. He does that at least every other game. Blake may be washed up, but you have to think of it this way; a washed up Blake is better than Lilja ever will be. And since Lilja will be gone after this year, since he knows he could probably find more playing time on another team and make a little more, it's not like we are holding back one of our young guys. Lilja has no future with this team. The only problem is that we will likely be outbid by another team for his services. Bring Blake in. He can't do any worse than Lilja, but he can be a lot more physical. Have you not watched a single Kings game this year? Go watch one, watch Blake's slow ass let forwards walk in on him, watch Blake stand around while forwards chip away at loose pucks around the goalie time and time again...two, three, four pokes. A washed up Blake is not better than Lilja...sorry. Lilja may make mistakes at times, but he's more solid defensively than Blake is right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Have you not watched a single Kings game this year? Go watch one, watch Blake's slow ass let forwards walk in on him, watch Blake stand around while forwards chip away at loose pucks around the goalie time and time again...two, three, four pokes. A washed up Blake is not better than Lilja...sorry. Lilja may make mistakes at times, but he's more solid defensively than Blake is right now. You must keep in mind that Lilja is LGW's whipping boy, he could get a hattrick every game during the playoffs but some how posters will still find a way to complain. I don't Blake contract but I assume its much higher then Lilja, and for the price I would say Lilja is a better value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al48 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) Oh, and for the physical game. Lilja: 75 hits Blake: 43 hits Lilja: 19 giveaways Blake:20 giveaways Lilja:10 takeaways Blake: 9 takeaways Lilja: 57 blocked shots Blake:79 blocked shots (hey, he's beating Lilja in a stat) Edited December 30, 2007 by al48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 If they switched teams .... Lilja would be one of the worst defenceman in the league and Blake would be one of the best. Teams mean alot. I'd bring him in, he's tougher then most of if not all of our defenceman. Has a good shot, and paired with Lidstrom, you wouldnt notice his defensive play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted December 30, 2007 I can't say I would. First, it's not going to happen, because Lombardi wants prospects and/or draft picks. The guy is all about building for the "future". Who are you going to give up for a worthless Blake considering that this team is winning? Are you going to give up picks? You gonna give up a Hudler for a washed up Blake? Seriously. He's not good anymore. His offensive output sucks, his defense sucks, and the Wings are winning. EDIT: also, Blake is ranked 16th on the Kings in Plus/Minus with a minus 8 well i dont think l.a could ask for a hudler or top prospect for rob blake , like you said he hasnt been good this year and id like to think its cause the whole team sucks there and thats the main reason he hasnt been that good , whats the point of playing your heart out if youll keep losing ? Jesus look at their goaltending tandem ?? Last year he was saying he wouldnt wanna get traded and now hes saying he would consider it I think if he came here he would be really good , he was already a good player before he went back to l.a now imagine him here with lidstrom rafalski chelios on the back end ?? I think this deal would be more of l.a doing a favour for blake and for getting rid of his salary, hes making 6 million a year ? so by getting rid of him now theyd save 3 million , and considering we got 5.5 cap room and money is no object to us then adding him for a playoff run wouldnt matter Now i might get laughed at but i think a 2nd round pick might be enough , hes got a high salary and because hes been bad on a kings teams he cant demand for too much in return , thats just my take on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 He could be great addition..if LA would let him go for Meech..why not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Oh, and for the physical game. Lilja: 75 hits Blake: 43 hits Lilja: 19 giveaways Blake:20 giveaways Lilja:10 takeaways Blake: 9 takeaways Lilja: 57 blocked shots Blake:79 blocked shots (hey, he's beating Lilja in a stat) again .... look at the team blake plays for ?? maybe hes just not motivated enough considering the situation he is in , i think he would be alot better here , blake has about the same stats as lilja minus the hits and hes been on a godawful team , lilja is in the best team in the nhl..... makes a difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) Blake for Lilja? You gotta love the trade proposals on the boards. Hold on while I catch my breath, I've been laughing uncontrollably for the past 10 minutes.... Ok, sorry about that. Now, could Blake do very well here? Yes, as another poster pointed out, the team has a lot to do with your success/failure. Blake hasn't been good this season, but look what he has to play with. Also, keep in mind, if Blake were to come to Detroit, he would be the 3rd dman. He would play 15-20 minutes a night. At his age, that would help him out tremendously. As for what the Wings would have to give up to get him, far too much. Kenny could do just as well for less somewhere else. Edited December 30, 2007 by imisssergei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Im going to take Al48s word here, in combination with what ALL kings fans say and what Ive seen myself. Its not that Blake is some victim when it comes to LAs bad defense, but rather a factor in it. Im never nervous when hes on the ice and its always clear that hes lost a huge step when we play him. He makes countless mistakes per game that have everything to do with his personal game, and much less to do with the players around him. He simply doesnt cut it anymore. He is terrible...terrible defensively. Id like to have Blake for one reason - his shot on the PP in case we get a rash of injuries to our point men again. But thats paranoia more than anything. If you wanna replace Lilja, fine. I understand that. But there have to be better options out there than Blake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) EDIT: all that said, he did lay out Corey Perry pretty good this year. if you are among those hockeyfans who enjoy dirty D-men going for forward knees then Blake may be the guy to follow. I'm definitely against such crap. even more against aging dirty guys who take big bucks. definitely doesn't look like a nice check to me. Perry's a ***** and he deserves some beating but I'm refusing to enjoy such attacks which may look innocent but are aimed on hurting the other guy. Edited December 30, 2007 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mudvayneowns91 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) Blake for Lilja? You gotta love the trade proposals on the boards. Hold on while I catch my breath, I've been laughing uncontrollably for the past 10 minutes.... I don't think they were saying trade Lillypad for Blake.... I think it was more trade for Blake and to hell with Lilja. If they switched teams .... Lilja would be one of the worst defenceman in the league and Blake would be one of the best. Teams mean alot. Like how good would you say is one of the best? I couldn't even see him as top 2 on our team Edited December 30, 2007 by Mudvayneowns91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadienhater 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 I don't know...Have you watched him play much this year? He's pretty damn bad. I watch the Kings a lot, because I live in LA and my gf is a huge Kings fan. He's just so terrible around his own net this past couple years. It seems like he just stands there. There's a reason the Kings suck, and it starts with their terrible defense, led by Blake. EDIT: all that said, he did lay out Corey Perry pretty good this year. 1997 detroit red wings aquire washed up maple leaf defenseman larry murphy Result stanley cup. fact is players who have done it before can become what they once were in the right situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadienhater 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 if you are among those hockeyfans who enjoy dirty D-men going for forward knees then Blake may be the guy to follow. I'm definitely against such crap. even more against aging dirty guys who take big bucks. definitely doesn't look like a nice check to me. Perry's a ***** and he deserves some beating but I'm refusing to enjoy such attacks which may look innocent but are aimed on hurting the other guy. we have had dirty d men chelios and konstantinov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Blake for Lilja? You gotta love the trade proposals on the boards. Hold on while I catch my breath, I've been laughing uncontrollably for the past 10 minutes.... Ok, sorry about that. Now, could Blake do very well here? Yes, as another poster pointed out, the team has a lot to do with your success/failure. Blake hasn't been good this season, but look what he has to play with. Also, keep in mind, if Blake were to come to Detroit, he would be the 3rd dman. He would play 15-20 minutes a night. At his age, that would help him out tremendously. As for what the Wings would have to give up to get him, far too much. Kenny could do just as well for less somewhere else. who said to trade lilja for blake ?? im saying to replace lilja with blake ....and we wouldnt have to give up too much hes a high salary player whos underperfoming and whos a ufa at seasons end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Im going to take Al48s word here, in combination with what ALL kings fans say and what Ive seen myself. Its not that Blake is some victim when it comes to LAs bad defense, but rather a factor in it. Im never nervous when hes on the ice and its always clear that hes lost a huge step when we play him. He makes countless mistakes per game that have everything to do with his personal game, and much less to do with the players around him. He simply doesnt cut it anymore. He is terrible...terrible defensively. Id like to have Blake for one reason - his shot on the PP in case we get a rash of injuries to our point men again. But thats paranoia more than anything. If you wanna replace Lilja, fine. I understand that. But there have to be better options out there than Blake. i may be wrong but i just think its the team hes in , no great defenders back there and no real goalie , id bet on the fact that he just lost the will , might be a bad quality but if your use to losing all the time ... I still like to believe hed be completely different here with the team we got , and he'd just be a rental , and hes an upgrade over lilja in my eyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 Blake hasn't been good in years. No go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 We should definitely get him, because he won the Norris Trophy back in '98, and even though I've been in a coma since then, I'm assuming that he's still as good as he was 10 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted December 30, 2007 He could be great addition..if LA would let him go for Meech..why not Bertuzzi for Matthias Blake for Meech Kindl for Asham Future for one good cup run. I'd rather not watch a rerun of the 90s Rangers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
