Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I dunno how you guys feel about this, but this guy isn't making any sense with this deal... Hockey News' writer Ken Campbell with proposed deadline trades, In the latest edition of the Hockey News (vol 61, No.18), writer Ken Campbell proposed 13 possible trades and here they are: To Detroit: Toni Lydman To Buffalo: Jonathan Ericsson or Cory Emmerton Ericsson would probably doing just as good or better than this guy, and Emmerton will be a solid 2nd or 3rd liner in the near future for our Red Wings. He also says: To Detroit: Sergei Fedorov To Columbus: Tomas Kopecky Which I might actually take him up on, this one doesn't sound like too bad of a deal, thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDDRWINGS1 9 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I'd take Feds for Kopecky straight up but they might want more like a dman. I wouldn't give up Ericsson. They can have Meech or a low draft pick. If we made a trade like that and brought in Blake, after they moved lines around we'd be unstoppable (like we already are now). ZDH Flip Feds Franzen Cleary Hudler Sammy Downey/Drake Draper Maltby Lids Rafalski Kronwall Blake Cheli Lebda/Lilja Obviously one or two of these guys might leave in a trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I'd rather Tallinder if we're getting a Buffalo D-man. Both are primarily defensive guys, but I think Tallinder is the better shutdown defenseman and brings more of a physical presence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 i hate both trades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I would not like the first one. Wouldn't mind Kopecky for Feds though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I say to hell with both of those. Unless you want to replace Ericson with Meech, even then I say why screw bother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I would like to also adress this concept that we should bring back pieces of our past like Feds and Mac. WHY?!?!?! We are doing fantastic and will only get better with time. We have prospects and players and a foundation in place to win now. I say don't push anything until Lids retires, then you can start acting crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HomeNugget 2 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I'd rather Tallinder if we're getting a Buffalo D-man. Both are primarily defensive guys, but I think Tallinder is the better shutdown defenseman and brings more of a physical presence. tallinder and lilja have some history together. might be a little chemistry there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 Lydman is softer than a cream puff. Why the hell would we want him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legendary D In 03 50 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 tallinder and lilja have some history together. might be a little chemistry there. You mean that whole raping the same girl thing? Yeah, I heard. Word, LDi03 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 I'd rather Tallinder if we're getting a Buffalo D-man. Both are primarily defensive guys, but I think Tallinder is the better shutdown defenseman and brings more of a physical presence. Lydman has outhit Tallinder 104 to 24 this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 Lydman has outhit Tallinder 104 to 24 this season. How many times has Lydman been outmuscled? Tallinder? 'Physical presence' is not about the number of hits you throw. It's about being able to physically impose your will on the game. Case in point: Kris Draper vs Eric Godard. Draper has many more hits, but Godard brings more physical presence. Tallinder's biggest advantage over Lydman is the fact that Tallinder is one of the top shut-down type defensemen in the NHL...while Lydman is second-tier in that respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 How many times has Lydman been outmuscled? Tallinder? How about you tell me? At last Lydman is making an attempt to outmuscle. 'Physical presence' is not about the number of hits you throw. It's about being able to physically impose your will on the game. Case in point: Kris Draper vs Eric Godard. Draper has many more hits, but Godard brings more physical presence. Tallinder's biggest advantage over Lydman is the fact that Tallinder is one of the top shut-down type defensemen in the NHL...while Lydman is second-tier in that respect. I'm not buying random assertions that Tallinder has some sort of physical edge that Lydman doesn't possess. Sorry. Lydman registers more hits and blocks more shots. He's a bit looser with the puck, but we're not exactly in dire need for a puck mover. If he can get the puck to his partner, we're fine. Oh and the reason Godard has no hits is because he can't skate and he doesn't play. Yet he registers a hit every 10.8 minutes whereas Draper notches one every 12.5 minutes. A bit silly to look at raw hit totals when one guy plays 3 times as much as the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 Lydman is softer than a cream puff. Why the hell would we want him? I think you just answered your own question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted February 4, 2008 He's a bit looser with the puck, but we're not exactly in dire need for a puck mover. If he can get the puck to his partner, we're fine. I'd rather have a decent puck mover with a physical upside than the other way around. Esp considering how the Wings play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 4, 2008 tallinder and lilja have some history together. might be a little chemistry there. All we'd need is Kristian Huselias and Karen Newman is a goner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legendary D In 03 50 Report post Posted February 4, 2008 All we'd need is Kristian Huselias and Karen Newman is a goner. HAHAHAHAHA, yes! Word, LDi03 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
