Guest Jeremy88 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Why does every GDT turn into a goalie war??? We have 2 great goalies both capable of winning on any given night given the team in front of them brings their A-game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 We got lucky to get the 1 point today...wings were better than they were against LA, but still, Toronto was clearly playing better than detroit was. Please trade Franzen...he's beginning to look like Samuelsson...just shooting the puck at the goalie with no one screening. You can trade: Lilja, Lebda, Franzen, Sammy, Hudler, Drake... those players are useless... we have great team for regular season (president trophy) and we still don't have PLAYOFF team (Stanley Cup)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Why does every GDT turn into a goalie war??? We have 2 great goalies both capable of winning on any given night given the team in front of them brings their A-game. It's not Hasek lovers who started anything here... that's only thing that I can say... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 We got lucky to get the 1 point today...wings were better than they were against LA, but still, Toronto was clearly playing better than detroit was. Please trade Franzen...he's beginning to look like Samuelsson...just shooting the puck at the goalie with no one screening. You're a dope. Even Bob Cole and Harry Neale were saying how bad the wings outplayed the Leafs and Toskala kept them in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 You can trade: Lilja, Lebda, Franzen, Sammy, Hudler, Drake... those players are useless... we have great team for regular season (president trophy) and we still don't have PLAYOFF team (Stanley Cup)... Ahmen. Lilja,Lebda - I kinda like them Yet im kinda like wdfx yer problem Franzen - Big body good on faceoffs, sucks at everythingelse. Sammy - Starting to warm up to him again Rex,Drake - 1 Dementional, And arent very good at there 1 demention either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwinLove40 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) Did we lost because of Hasek? 2 deflection goals - what can you do with that??? Do you think that I'm happy with Zetterberg's TO that lead to the game winning DEFLECTION goal??? NO - but s*** happens... is it Zetterberg fault = NO, Lidstrom fault = NO, Hasek fault = NO... We win as a team or we die as a team... PERIOD! 1. I never said we lost because of Hasek. In fact, I said Of course he's not the only one to blame for the loss 2. What you responded with has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. 3. My only point (as I previously stated) was, why post statements bashing Ozzie when you know all it will do is provoke a goalie war?? - I do, however, agree with the bolded statement. Edited February 9, 2008 by EuroTwinLove40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jeremy88 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 You're a dope. Even Bob Cole and Harry Neale were saying how bad the wings outplayed the Leafs and Toskala kept them in it. Maybe the Wings got more shots and controlled the play more, but their offense was horrible. Every time the ZDH line tried to set something up, Toronto was able to break up the play...and every time the Franzen, Filp, Sammy line was out, all they did was shoot the puck at the unscreened goalie. Toronto's offense actually looked like they were trying to win the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) It's not Hasek lovers who started anything here... that's only thing that I can say... ...I can say that Ozzy is sucking every single game after he signed for 3 more years... and so what??? EDIT: BTW Ozzy all star = JOKE... It was emarassing watching him at the ALL Star Break... Edited February 9, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Maybe the Wings got more shots and controlled the play more, but their offense was horrible. Every time the ZDH line tried to set something up, Toronto was able to break up the play...and every time the Franzen, Filp, Sammy line was out, all they did was shoot the puck at the unscreened goalie. Toronto's offense actually looked like they were trying to win the game. This post says really says nothing. This says a lot: Toskala 1st star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) Kinda disappointing, but what can ya do, 1-goal lead is never safe, even late. Kudos for Toskala for stealing a game, in my opinion, that the Red Wings were slowly starting to take over around the midway part of the game. And I'll say the same thing I say a million times for Hasek. One may not like him personally or his style of play. His style of play may not work for any other goaltender in the NHL, or anywhere. But the style works for Hasek and has helped him win plenty in the past, and that is the style he knows best to win. He's not going to change it anytime soon. Largely referencing this to the OT goal. Blaming this lose solely on him is idiotic. Give more credit to Toskala for keeping his team in it and the Maple Leafs responding just in the nick of time. Take the point and move on to tomorrow. This team is making the playoffs so there's no real point in getting too upset about this loss or losing two in a row. They have plenty of time to tune up and work on things until April. Edited February 9, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 it's clear, without zetterberg and datsyuk we have no offense. i hope holland can realistically address this issue. also, our pp and pk are in dire need of work. we've scored on 6 of the last 62 pp's! what?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 (edited) OMG ALL HASEKS FAULT WDF FLOPPING FISH LOOKING FISH FLOPPER.. Kay now, Get bent out of shape. Go. Edited February 9, 2008 by Grittzkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 The Wings aren't playing bad but to win the cup you need scoring from everyone. Hoping to see some diffinitive goals tomorrow without Z, Datsyuk or Lidtrom's name on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Packer487 3 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Wait a minute. You just said that we ONLY have 6 guys that score consistanly. How any teams have 6 consistant scorers? We lead the entire league in scoring and we have the #1 and #2 D-men in scoring. Sorry but scoring is not a problem. 3 of the 6 play on a line together (so when one scores, they all score) and 2 of the 6 play in the same defense pairing. When the top line isn't going and the top power play unit is shut down, who do you have? Cleary. And he's hurt now. Zetterberg and Datsyuk didn't do a whole lot on the road in the playoffs last year. I wouldn't bet my life on our top line keeping things going all throughout the playoffs. And if they're off, or some team can shut them down, who's scoring the goals for this team? And God-forbid Zetterberg's back goes out again.... Scoring isn't a problem if Flip and Hudler get going again and Kronwall can find a way to not be made of glass. But they're well below their average as of late. We've averaged 3.333 goals per game over the season. Over Dom's last 10 starts we've been scoring 2.4 gpg, and over the last 10 starts for each goalie it's been like 2.9 gpg. 2.9 isn't so bad (2.4 per night is AWFUL)...it's right in the 6-10 range projected over the season, but it's almost a half goal a game below our average and like 2/3 of a goal per game below the first 37ish games. I'd prefer to land another scorer to take some pressure off the top line. But that's just me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Maybe the Wings got more shots and controlled the play more, but their offense was horrible. Every time the ZDH line tried to set something up, Toronto was able to break up the play...and every time the Franzen, Filp, Sammy line was out, all they did was shoot the puck at the unscreened goalie. Toronto's offense actually looked like they were trying to win the game. Well not every time, Hank and Pavel had an assist tonight. Sometimes a goalie steals a game. That's hockey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Hasek was flopping like a fish on the last play i must admit. Kaberle could have shot it from the hash marks on the side boards while he was rolling around like a trout, and it would have went in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Hasek was flopping like a fish on the last play i must admit. Kaberle could have shot it from the hash marks on the side boards while he was rolling around like a trout, and it would have went in. I thought that Anton Stralman was "shooting"??? Should, could, would... are you Nostardamus or what???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Not a great performance from Hasek, but the Wings arent playing anymore. It's like 2002, they have the presidents trophy locked up, so no reason to play. What utter bulls***. We shouldnt have gone to OT with the Leafs to begin with, we need to make moves at the deadline, thats evident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero 20 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 It's not fair to say that Hasek sucked today. He played good. The only issues I have with the game he played today, is that he let in two soft goals, and he stayed on the ice after flopping for way too long. Lidstrom and Hasek are the only guys who showed up in full today. Frankly, that is starting to piss me off. It's only fair that per the rotation, Osgood starts on Sunday. Heres to a much better game than against Los Angeles, from Osgood and the rest of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Is Clearys injury serious?? If it is, were in big trouble. Last year we had Lang, Calder, Franzen playing well. This year we have Filpula and Samuelson. Dear god, Kenny get some 2nd line support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omnipotent_hudler 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 and we have to the Ducks now on a back to back. Well I guess that'll be one more 3 game losing streak for this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 wow - wow - wow 2 deflection goals... what's your problem guys??? Last time I checked Ozzy allowed 5 goals against powerful Kings and nobody even complain... what's going on here??? Don't throw that s*** at me. I rammed on Osgood just as much after the Kings game. I don't favor either Detroit goalie. If they play well, I'll throw them compliments, but when they suck (like Hasek did tonight, and Osgood did on Thursday) then I'm not going to hold back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan_54 10 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Shame...So I was at the game this afternoon all decked out face painted etc lol lookin forward to a nie Red Wings win..didnt happen...Dissappointed but noticed a few things but some are obvious...If hasek did that in a playoff game id b pissed he was flopping around on the OT goal like a complete moron it happened in front of where we were sitting and idno what he was thinking..if he had his stick he woulda stopped it..possibly...other than that I rlyyy like Downey he brings an amazing physical presence along the boards forechecking...the DZH line was good once again....but Franzen i don't like..to slow..him and Samuelsson together I dreaded each and every time they came out...Tough loss again to let a goal in wth 6 mins left in the 3rd..we have to learn to hang on...but despite the loss we got a point lets turn it around and beat the Ducks tomorrow..GO WINGS GO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) I think there's little doubt now Hudler will be traded. I'd hate to see it happen as I like him a lot and think he could be a 60 point guy for many years, but Babs just doesn't like him. Edit: The goalie wars have well and truly begun. After every single freaking loss. Edited February 10, 2008 by Aussie_Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 I have no problem giving the credit to Ozzy when needed... first of all I'm Red Wings fan and not Hasek/Ozzy fan... You can put Cheveldae in the goal and I will be Red Wings fan... here, there are so many Ozzy "fans" that sometimes you think that Ozzy is bigger than Detroit... It's just stupid... I would like to see Ozzy at 42 - too bad we are never going to see that... What. The. Hell. You know it's so funny how some of you make these accusations of us Ozzie fans, yet have nothing to back it up. Exactly which Oz fans here think Ozzie is bigger than Detroit? Please elaborate. As for Ozzie not playing at 42. I didn't know you could see the future! A bit bitter are we? Get real. Don't say you give credit to Oz yet come on here and bash him or his fans. I can't even believe that some here think that Ozzie never gets trashed, and Hasek does no matter what. You obviously haven't been on here for awhile, or don't know how Wings fans work. Ozzie has ALWAYS been the most bashed player..EVER, and he did get blamed for the loss against the Kings. So please know what you're going to post before you say things like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
