vangvace 12 Report post Posted February 18, 2008 tsn story Items being discussed: 1 min penalties during regular season OT carry-over suspensions high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood instigator retaining salary in trades The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty ice conditions around the league The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets five shooters instead of three during shootouts whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout Lots on the table to be discussed. Some interesting ideas and nothing really jumps out and makes me groan except for banning hand passes. Automatic slashing penalties for breaking sticks could be touchy because of how composites break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 1 min penalties during regular season OT this will just encourage more penalty calls carry-over suspensions a sensible idea high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood it shouldnt be that hard to keep sticks down instigator get rid now = cleaner league retaining salary in trades never heard of this one The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams dont care the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement again dont care examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule if it means more eastern conference games then yes. also the off season is too short. moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada again dont care the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year why? whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone needless rule change whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty not with these sticks, they break in a brisk breeze ice conditions around the league they should all be JLA standard The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets shrink the gear if anything, leave the nets five shooters instead of three during shootouts Id like this, only cos in football a pen shootout is 5v5 (football not soccer stupid yanks) whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout could be interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 What wasn't on discussed whatsoever Monday was the front-page story in Sunday's Toronto Star that suggested NHL players put advertising on their uniforms. "It's not something that I've ever had any reason to believe that the Players' Association or the players would ever agree to," NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told The Canadian Press on Monday. "So it's not something that we've given any thought to." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest octopusdank Report post Posted February 19, 2008 tsn story Items being discussed: 1 min penalties during regular season OT carry-over suspensions high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood instigator retaining salary in trades The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty ice conditions around the league The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets five shooters instead of three during shootouts whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout Lots on the table to be discussed. Some interesting ideas and nothing really jumps out and makes me groan except for banning hand passes. Automatic slashing penalties for breaking sticks could be touchy because of how composites break. wow, thats great they are addressing those issues, hopefully they resolve them in a way that works for everyone. ill be especially excited to see how these turn out: instigator (very lame as is, get rid of it) 84 game schedule (wonder why theyd want 2 more games??) deadline players cant rejoin team for a year (awesome to get rid of "rental" players) ICE CONDITIONS (how hard can it be to keep ice frozen? ive seen alot of games at JOBING.com arena (coyotes) and they have very s***ty ice) five shooters in SO instead of 3 ( ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest octopusdank Report post Posted February 19, 2008 are you serious sonofawing?? i hope they never do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 They should be discussing the larger ice surface.Players now are too big and fast they need more room to operate. As usual though NHL owners are too greedy to see the forest for the trees and think the 300 or so seats they lose will hurt more than the thousands of fans who are too disgusted by the quality of the hockey to ever go see a game live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Sorry if this post is lengthy. Some of the original suggestions I cut out as I either don't have an opinion on it or don't know enough about the rule/suggestion. 1 min penalties during regular season OT - Indifferent. Think it's fine now but would entertain a change. high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood - Fine as is. instigator - Eliminate it, makes the players more accountable for their actions, brings fighting back in the game some more. examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule - If this gets every team to play each other at least once, I am all for it. the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year - Initially against it. Just seems like a clamp is being put on a player for doing what he wants to do. Not too familar with this kinda scenario though so if anybody can teach me some more, would appreciate it. whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone - Fine as is. whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty - Yes. The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets - No to bigger nets. If people want equipment to be reduced, fine, but I'm tired of people whining about somebody's equipment being too big if that player isn't breaking any rules. five shooters instead of three during shootouts - Wouldn't kill me if it stayed at 3, but I like the idea of 5. whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout - Actually kinda like this suggestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 (edited) tsn story Items being discussed: 1 min penalties during regular season OT carry-over suspensions high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood instigator retaining salary in trades The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty ice conditions around the league The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets five shooters instead of three during shootouts whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout Lots on the table to be discussed. Some interesting ideas and nothing really jumps out and makes me groan except for banning hand passes. Automatic slashing penalties for breaking sticks could be touchy because of how composites break. goalie equipment and bigger nets is a very sensitive subject because if you change both by a little it could cause major shifts in how the game is played. Luongo and Giguere have really big equipment. It would be nice to see the equipment made to protect the goalie and nothing more. That would put a huge push on big defense which could have unforeseen consequences. An 84 game season to decrease the exhibition games is a good idea. I would not want to see anything else changed. I don't understand the details of the salary retention but after seeing what Anaheim did this season I'd generally frown upon it. I think a team should be basically complete before the season begins and in season trading kept to a minimum. Otherwise, the regular season looks pointless. I don't like the idea of 1 minute penalties. 4 on 4 should leave enough space on the ice for penalties to not be a factor. If you're getting penalties at that point the team deserves it. If they can get nice ice in every arena that would be something big to shoot for. Edited February 19, 2008 by jim3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 1 min penalties during regular season OT -Here you have to weigh the pros' and cons' of making more rules and making the game more complicated in terms of rules. Exactly what kind of impact do they think this will have? high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood -Like you guys say, this shouldn't even be under discussion. Sticks should be on the ice. instigator -This one is annoying but I can see why it's here right now and why it'll likely remain. retaining salary in trades -This one would be cool. For example it would make a lot of Toronto's players a lot more attractive. Imagine picking up Kubina but leaving Toronto to continue paying part of the salary. Question is how this should impact the cap. The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams -Players wanting to get an education shouldn't be pressured to drop their studies. Only a few of them make the NHL and the remainder float around in the lower-tier leagues. But this one will be tricky, a player can drop out and then be signed by a NHL team. It'll be difficult to make precise rules but it's necessary. the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement -Bleh. This one is a complete mess. examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule -If the argument the NHLPA use is good then this might actually happen. moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada -This one will likely be the easiest to decide. the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year -ooooh - now this one is definitely interesting. Together with the salary retaining this could introduce more dynamic to the trading. whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty -Something to do with the composite stick breaking easier than wood right? Don't really have a problem with this. When the ref sees that a slash is a slash - it's a slash. (Duh!) The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets -Scary. *runs away from the topic* five shooters instead of three during shootouts -Soccer has five shooters. Was always confused by why there were only three in the NHL. whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout -Eh? Why? How much is this gonna change things really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 1 min penalties during regular season OT - Indifferent. Think it's fine now but would entertain a change. examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule - If this gets every team to play each other at least once, I am all for it. the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year - Initially against it. Just seems like a clamp is being put on a player for doing what he wants to do. Not too familar with this kinda scenario though so if anybody can teach me some more, would appreciate it. The reason they're looking at change the OT penalty time is because some don't like that a single penalty takes up 40% of OT and many times decides a game. Could very well lead to more shoot-outs. From what I've seen elsewhere. The 84 game schedule being discussed includes a home and home with every team. Not rejoining your former team would prevent say Sundin, from being traded for the playoffs then resigning with Toronto during the offseason. Basically stopping what Tkachuk did last season. retaining salary in trades -This one would be cool. For example it would make a lot of Toronto's players a lot more attractive. Imagine picking up Kubina but leaving Toronto to continue paying part of the salary. Question is how this should impact the cap. whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty -Something to do with the composite stick breaking easier than wood right? Don't really have a problem with this. When the ref sees that a slash is a slash - it's a slash. (Duh!) whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout -Eh? Why? How much is this gonna change things really? Retaining salaries creates "dead" cap space. For example, say the Caps trade AO and in the terms of the deal they agree to pay $5mil of his contract for three years. During those three years Washington's cap max was just lowered $5million. If a GMs not paying close enough attention it could royal put his team into cap hell. Something I would like to see added if they make a broken stick a penalty is that the stick must have a certain minimum break strength if that makes sense. That way players don't go out there with sticks like toothpicks... you know instead of diving Depends on the player in the box really. I'm kinda for it because it holds to having the team penalized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 1 min penalties during regular season OT dumb... they rarely call penalties anyways, if it's worth calling it's worth 2 high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood it should be 2 or 4 depending on the action not the result instigator don't remove it but remove the game misconduct attached to it and the last 5 minute bullcrap.. you can't remove it entirely because if an innocent player is jumped, he would be encouraged to turtle and not fight back otherwise he wouldn't draw his team a PP, that's wrong The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams if they can compete with the best players in the world i don't see the harm the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year yes!!! whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone yes it's fine, if you don't allow them it just encourages players to freeze the puck more when they're on all fours whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty lol... no... that's basically how it is already though, unfortunately five shooters instead of three during shootouts yeah i like this whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout nope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayUp88 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 five shooters instead of three during shootouts Id like this, only cos in football a pen shootout is 5v5 (football not soccer stupid yanks) I have never heard of a shootout if football.... its 11v11? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 BREAKING NEWS! GM office candy jars to be stocked with Skittles. More info as it becomes available! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Items being discussed: 1 min penalties during regular season OT Stupid. A penalty is a penalty and a player should serve 2:00. It was the league's decision to drop from 5-on-5 to 4-on-4 to create more scoring opportunities in OT, so why change the length of an infraction simply because teams are skating a man down. If anything, Refs just need to be more consistent with their calls once the final couple minutes of regulation come. carry-over suspensions No objections from me. I'm for it. high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood I'd want to hear the terms behind this, but I think the rule is great the way its set up. instigator Get rid of it. retaining salary in trades I don't see how anyone can have an opinion on this before hearing all facets of the proposal. Too many provisions would be in place for me to even debate it right now. The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams Ok the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement You'd think by now this would be old news with the loophole, but it would be nice to get some closure for not only the Russian players leaving for the NHL, but the RSL as well. examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule If it'll bring balance to the schedule, I'm all for it. There's a reason the cap continues to rise and having as many games as the NHL currently does is a big part of that. People may want to cut the amount of games because of the lengthy season, but its deeply needed for revenue. moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada I can understand that. League, go nuts. the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year Absolutely 100% for this rule to be added. NTC's will become even more important to players if this happens. whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone Don't touch this rule. It should absolutely stay. whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty IMO this should go. It should be at the refs discretion. ice conditions around the league Meaning more money from the revenue big dogs will pay for the poor ice due to southern conditions. Understandable, but it'll obviously hurt the league's bottom line. The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets Goalie equipment: Reduce Away. Nets: Leave 'em alone. five shooters instead of three during shootouts A gimmick's a gimmick no matter how you slice it........whatever. whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout I agree a player in the box shouldn't be eligible for the SO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 1 min penalties during regular season OT no, barely gives offense time to set up carry-over suspensions Yes high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood Leave it the way it is instigator yes retaining salary in trades don't care The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams Don't care, it's the student missing out on his education, his choice not the NHL's the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement Don't care examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule Less pre-season, more eastern conf. games? yes moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada Whatever the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year If they traded him, why would they want him right back anyway...Don't care whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone Leave it alone, stop nitpicking whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty On a player, yes, on a players stick, no ice conditions around the league yes there should be ice The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets You think people b#$%h about goalies now, imagine bigger nets. Leave the nets the way they are, make Giguere remove the matress pads five shooters instead of three during shootouts I'm cool with that, a few more minutes of a game yay! whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout Let him shoot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 The one I think is weird is the NCAA one, how could they possibly limit the NCAA players and not the junior players. Wouldn't that prevent players from going to the NCAA if they thought they had a shot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al48 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 (edited) 1 min penalties during regular season OT And what exactly would happen when a penalty carried over from regulation? What about a penalty occurring at the buzzer of regulation? Too much complexity. An easier fix is to lengthen the OT time to 10 mins. OT is simply too short; not that the penalties are too long. Edited February 19, 2008 by al48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 1 min penalties during regular season OT No. Make it 10mins OT. carry-over suspensions Do they mean carry-over from regular season to playoffs, or from season to season? Because both already happen, and should. high-sticking penalties and whether it should remain an automatic four-minute penalty for drawing blood I could go either way on this. Removing it allows for discretion in what warrants a four minute penalty, and likely blood would usually be called that way anyway. instigator I think it should go, it's unneccessary. retaining salary in trades Absolutely should be allowed. The growing trend of NCAA players leaving school early to sign with NHL teams The only way to prevent this is to put an age limit on the entire league; if you limit who can come from the NCAA, then many of those players who would have left school early now don't even attend. the status of the IIHF-NHL player transfer agreement Get a fair agreement in place; probably should involve some sort of scaled compensation to account for star players and such. examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule Go for it. moving the start of free agency to July 6 or July 7 instead of July 1 when it's a national holiday in Canada Meh. Whatever. the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year It sounds nice, but I would be more in favor of a compensatory pick situation; if the trading team reacquires the player, they have to give a conditional pick (1st round to 3rd round) to the team losing him. whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone Hand passes should be allowed in the defensive zone. whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty It probably should be a slashing penalty, but I don't really like 'automatic' penalty for something that ice conditions around the league Should always be improved from year to year... The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets Smaller gear. Same size nets. five shooters instead of three during shootouts Sure. whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout Make him shoot last. I am also in favor of removing the exception to the icing rule for shorthanded teams. Why should a penalized team get an advantage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Only changes i want are Instigator - Gone. More Eastern Con Games. Enforcers Game At All Star Game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Items being discussed: 1 min penalties during regular season OT No. The purpose is to increase scoring and end the game. Keep it 2 minutes. instigator Absolutely get rid of it. retaining salary in trades I'm not sure about this one. It would depend on a lot of the details of how it would work with the cap. examining the NHL Players' Association's idea of an 84-game schedule I'm surprised the NHLPA would suggest an even longer season. It's a grind as it is. Though they were talking about shortening pre-season as part of the deal. Honestly I'd be in favor of an 80 game season, but I don't see the owners going for it due to lost $$$ the idea that players who are traded near the trade deadline cannot re-join his old team for a minimum of one year I like Eva's idea of a punitive picks if the player re-signs with his old team. whether hand passes should be disallowed in the defensive zone Didn't they change this rule in the early 90s? They should probably keep it to help keep the flow of the game and less stoppages in play. Players are going to make hand passes in their own end anyway to make a defensive play and stop a scoring chance. whether breaking a stick on a player should be an automatic slashing penalty Is it automatic now? I knew you're likely to get called if you bust a stick on a guy, but didn't know it was automatic. I'd leave it to refs discretion, especially considering some of the composites these guys use practically explode while they're being taped up. ice conditions around the league Definitely needs improvement. The size of goalie equipment and bigger nets Absolutely yes to the former, oh hell no to the latter. five shooters instead of three during shootouts Yes, let's do that, but first let's also make them wear ice dancing outfits as the skate around an obstacle course to the theme from Top Gun. If you're going to damage the game with a spectacle, you might as well go all the way. whether a player that was still in the penalty box at the end of overtime should be ineligible for the shootout Absolutely yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
