06TJSport 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230659&hubname=nhl Doesn't have his wings in the top 5? I mean I know they are in a flat spot, but I'd like to see any team not have its top 4 defensemen in the line up and how they would fair. There is a reason these kids play in Grand Rapids and yes the future looks good, but none of them are quite there yet, with Meech being the closest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Yeah the guy sure seems to sing a different tune a lot. It was during the season preview back in October, he flat out picked Detroit to win the cup. Hands down. Then that game vs Dallas last week came, and he did color commentary. He pissed me off. I used to be interested in what he had to say, but lately he has just annoyed me really bad. But yeah, he went from "Detroit will win the Stanley Cup" back in October, to "Detroit is too small and not tough enough to make it out of the west and beat teams like Anaheim" in that game against Dallas. Aslo during that game vs Dallas, he made a comment about Jimmy Howard saying something along the lines of "I think the Wings may have found their next goalie!!" and then continued to praise him up throughout the game. Then today on TSN during the trade deadline show, he was talking about how Ryan Miller will sign with the wings in 2 years when he is a UFA, and then he said "because Jimmy Howard won't cut it". It seems all he does now is jump on teams bandwagons who are currently playing good. It's sickening. I can't wait until the Wings beat the Quacks in the playoffs so I can see the bastard eat crow!! It's funny though, that Dallas game he ripped into the wings hard every chance he got. I think the wings heard it loud and clear, because the next game they sure did a number on the Av's, and without their captain. But I'm willing to bet when the Wings get healthy and start winning again, that the TSN "experts" will probably start jumping on our bandwagon again.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 you should have heard him today about the wings sooooo stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 I like that analysts are ruling out the Wings. This may be just what we need for motivation. The losing streak could be a blessing in disguise, ppl start to think the Wings are falling off and then POW! Right in the Kisser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 you should have heard him today about the wings sooooo stupid Yeah it was pretty pathetic. It's sad how peoples opinions of this team change sooooo much just because of a slump caused by injuries. And today we got even better. When we are healthy again, I'll feel bad for the teams that have to play us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=230659&hubname=nhl Doesn't have his wings in the top 5? I mean I know they are in a flat spot, but I'd like to see any team not have its top 4 defensemen in the line up and how they would fair. There is a reason these kids play in Grand Rapids and yes the future looks good, but none of them are quite there yet, with Meech being the closest. It's his opinion, why even worry about him then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjohnson13 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Then that game vs Dallas last week came, and he did color commentary. He pissed me off. I knew i wasn't the only one who picked up on that... Man, was he ever ripping Detroit in that game. Every time he talked it was something about Detroit looking terrible. A few months ago he might have well just handed Detroit the Cup. Your typical case of getting too high and too low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) Well according to them we are not no.1 contenders..and history tell us it's not so bad ('97 Cup). Edited February 27, 2008 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Pierre is a dick. I change the channel when he starts commenting. All he ever says is how the Wings can't cut it and how much he wants to be under Burke's desk to administer a BJ. Seeing on TradeCenter yesterday was ridiculous. "Montreal is gonna do something big, mark my words". Yeah, they dumped their goaltender... wow, that was huge. Thank you for the prediction. Nothing would please me more than for the Wings to knock out the Ducks and hear Pierre stammer through excuses as to why the Ducks didn't win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 So if he's a retard, why do we care what he thinks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CdnWingsFanEh 2 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Maybe Pierre secretly works for ESPN... Retard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Yeah the guy sure seems to sing a different tune a lot. It was during the season preview back in October, he flat out picked Detroit to win the cup. Hands down. Then that game vs Dallas last week came, and he did color commentary. He pissed me off. I used to be interested in what he had to say, but lately he has just annoyed me really bad. But yeah, he went from "Detroit will win the Stanley Cup" back in October, to "Detroit is too small and not tough enough to make it out of the west and beat teams like Anaheim" in that game against Dallas. Aslo during that game vs Dallas, he made a comment about Jimmy Howard saying something along the lines of "I think the Wings may have found their next goalie!!" and then continued to praise him up throughout the game. Then today on TSN during the trade deadline show, he was talking about how Ryan Miller will sign with the wings in 2 years when he is a UFA, and then he said "because Jimmy Howard won't cut it". It seems all he does now is jump on teams bandwagons who are currently playing good. It's sickening. I can't wait until the Wings beat the Quacks in the playoffs so I can see the bastard eat crow!! It's funny though, that Dallas game he ripped into the wings hard every chance he got. I think the wings heard it loud and clear, because the next game they sure did a number on the Av's, and without their captain. But I'm willing to bet when the Wings get healthy and start winning again, that the TSN "experts" will probably start jumping on our bandwagon again.... If Ryan Miller becomes available, don't think that Holland will not make an offer.....As for the media predictions from TSN, you just let them talk their crap, then when they are proven wrong, you remind them of it for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 If Ryan Miller becomes available, don't think that Holland will not make an offer.....As for the media predictions from TSN, you just let them talk their crap, then when they are proven wrong, you remind them of it for a long time. You can't prove an opinion wrong (for the most part). Why is it that someone is a dick because he doesn't place the Wings on a pedastal? I can understand thinking McGuire is a dick for other reasons (he is annoying at times), but simply because he doesn't have the Wings in his top 5 or isn't a homer Wings fan doesn't seem justified to me. I have to be honest, I haven't watched a ton of TSN's hockey coverage for whatever reason. Most of the time I listen to him its with respect to the World Juniors and I don't mind him in that capacity. I can understand not having the Wings as your favourite, out of your top 5 is probably a little strange. I think there is a bit of jumping the gun here due to high and lows of the Wings season so far. The Wings record over the past little while probably influences this current thoughts on their chances a little more than it should. Even with the injuries they have, their record has been disappointing the past while, remember, Lidstrom was around for quite a few losses before going down. If you expect everyone to be healthy come playoff time, then it would be very difficult not to have the Wings as a top contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 You can't prove an opinion wrong (for the most part). Why is it that someone is a dick because he doesn't place the Wings on a pedastal? I can understand thinking McGuire is a dick for other reasons (he is annoying at times), but simply because he doesn't have the Wings in his top 5 or isn't a homer Wings fan doesn't seem justified to me. I have to be honest, I haven't watched a ton of TSN's hockey coverage for whatever reason. Most of the time I listen to him its with respect to the World Juniors and I don't mind him in that capacity. I can understand not having the Wings as your favourite, out of your top 5 is probably a little strange. I think there is a bit of jumping the gun here due to high and lows of the Wings season so far. The Wings record over the past little while probably influences this current thoughts on their chances a little more than it should. Even with the injuries they have, their record has been disappointing the past while, remember, Lidstrom was around for quite a few losses before going down. If you expect everyone to be healthy come playoff time, then it would be very difficult not to have the Wings as a top contender. I don't care what Pierre thinks of the Wings; he could have them as his worst pick. I'd disagree, but that's his opinion. I think he's a dick because of his 'god' mentality where anything he says is truth and will come to pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 They dude writes a column. You agree with him or you don't. Just because you don't, doesn't make him a '******* retard'. that would make everyone at LGW a ******* retard at one point or another... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 They dude writes a column. You agree with him or you don't. Just because you don't, doesn't make him a '******* retard'. that would make everyone at LGW a ******* retard at one point or another... Sometimes I wonder But yes. Probably the sanest voice of reason post I've seen in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 You can't prove an opinion wrong (for the most part). Why is it that someone is a dick because he doesn't place the Wings on a pedastal? I can understand thinking McGuire is a dick for other reasons (he is annoying at times), but simply because he doesn't have the Wings in his top 5 or isn't a homer Wings fan doesn't seem justified to me. I have to be honest, I haven't watched a ton of TSN's hockey coverage for whatever reason. Most of the time I listen to him its with respect to the World Juniors and I don't mind him in that capacity. I can understand not having the Wings as your favourite, out of your top 5 is probably a little strange. I think there is a bit of jumping the gun here due to high and lows of the Wings season so far. The Wings record over the past little while probably influences this current thoughts on their chances a little more than it should. Even with the injuries they have, their record has been disappointing the past while, remember, Lidstrom was around for quite a few losses before going down. If you expect everyone to be healthy come playoff time, then it would be very difficult not to have the Wings as a top contender. How do you prove an opinion wrong? Just like when one of your friends makes a prediction and its wrong, and you don't let them forget about it. Think about it. Those guys are paid to get noticed, and its the in thing for media guys to continually jump on wagons. Take it with a grain of salt. When the Wings get healthy and start winning again, their opinions will once again change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheWestWing 71 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Nothing even matters until Maggie spins...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 I'm actually rooting for the Wings to start flying under the radar. Let Dallas have the #1 seed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 So what. Let him or anyone else doubt, it's better that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Let everyone discount the Wings (including penishead), it only puts more pressure on Anaheim (and company) to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Who cares the more people forget about us, the better chance we got of sneaking past a few teams here and there. and we loose the PMFGZ THERE A GREAT TEAM WE GOTTA PLAY HARD TONIGHT tag. So i dont care what Pierre has to say, and i dont care about what other people other then the redwings faithful have to say.. so no mas! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
06TJSport 0 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 The only reason I tossed this up is because of how off the wall his choices were in comparison to the other 3 analysts in the column. He just seems to be the casual hockey fan who somehow got a job as a hockey commentator. Example: In that Dallas game, there was a play where flip was backing away from the net to get free from the crowd and the pass came across and he caught it and then shot. He says "He was on the correct wing for a one-timer I don't understand why he wouldn't one time it." Now anyone that has ever played hockey knows that if he would have tried to one time it there, he would have gotten nothing on it and it would have sputtered harmlessly towards the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CupChamps979802 35 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 keep in mind this is the same Pierre McGuire from this video... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites