Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Today before my mid-term, I was reading the USA Today sports section and there was a picture on the front page of Bettman testifying in front of congress on Wednesday. All I could think about is how Congress should have put a stop to Bettmans dictatorship!! He should have to go back in front of Congress next week to explain this incident tonight!! In fact we'll have the hearing in Hart Plaza, and everyone that had a ticket to tonights game will be able to speak on the behalf of us Wings fans!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19=Legend 29 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 you fans in Detroit should riot in the streets to get on ESPN. not that I advocate riots, but it would be pretty cool to see. Why not make it all of Michigan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Why not make it all of Michigan? I'm on my way up there!!!! This will put a new meaning to the PAIN TRAIN!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 NHL New York office (212) 789-2000 Switch board opens at 8:30 A.M. - 6:00 P.M. Monday thru Friday or write to them at National Hockey League 1251 Avenue Of The Americas New York, NY 10020 I wrote a letter about the refs, certain rules, and the loser point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeiwasmyfav 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Well after the puck hits the netting, they expect the zebras to be doing thier job. Theres 4 of them out there and I cannot belive that not one of them saw it. The sharks also quit playing, the puck just happened to land in front of the shark that scored, and after not hearing a whistle, just had to tap it in. Im not saying the refs job is easy. But give me a break. Thats as easy as they get. And to add insult to injury it ends up to be the game winner. Unbelivable. I agree completely that the refs should be expected to do their job correctly. I never said it wasn't an awful call! It was. I was watching in disbelief. However, that doesn't change my opinion about how the players reacted. You are right that it did land closer to a San Jose player, and it wasn't a hard play for him to make. I guess I'm more outraged that such a situation could happen in the first place than I am about how it affected the Wings directly, only because I feel they could have tried harder. That is my opinion. Something like this should never happen. I completely agree with everyone else about that. And it was unbelievable. It was everything everyone in this thread has said it was. I was just adding my thoughts about how the Wings reacted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 I AM PISSED!!!!! seriously! SERIOUSLY!?!?! Four refs, FOUR! and not a single one saw the puck hit the net! :flamingmad: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdog19 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Anyone got a clip of this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruarc' 2 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 If you lose sight of the puck, blow your whistle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19=Legend 29 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 <iframe width="480" height="360" frameborder="0" src="http://www.nhl.tv/team/embed?hlp=8471682&event=DET350"></iframe> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19=Legend 29 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 lol that didnt work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 Minute Major 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 If you say every goal is reviewed, then not review something like this...what is the point of disallowing kicking-like motions or goals that hit a glove? The NHL has added so many rules in the past couple years, how do you miss something like this? I probably would not be this pissed if it were some other team (*cough*Anaheim), but the wings need a break! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 This further proves why the NHL is the worst of the four major professional sports leagues, and why people in general consider the league a joke. f*** the refs, f*** the Sharks, f*** Devin Setoguchi, and f*** everyone involved in that game. I swear, the NHL is so f***ed up, it's not even funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Who the hell is this douchebag doing the commentary about the "non-goal" on NHL On the Fly on NHL Network? "Um, uh... I don't think it's a big deal because the rule book has too many rules, but uh.... if it was in the Final then, uh, it'd be a big deal, so uh...." WTF? Did the puck go off this guys melon before this dips*** went on the air? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Who the hell is this douchebag doing the commentary about the "non-goal" on NHL On the Fly on NHL Network? "Um, uh... I don't think it's a big deal because the rule book has too many rules, but uh.... if it was in the Final then, uh, it'd be a big deal, so uh...." WTF? Did the puck go off this guys melon before this dips*** went on the air? Judging by all of the "uh's" and "um's" you threw in there, I'd guess Gary Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 My whole take on this thing...and I haven't read any responses prior to my post so I apologize in advance for rehashing other poster's points... Referees are far from perfect. I have officiated games for intramural college leagues in basketball and soccer, far less talented than professional hockey, and it is still difficult. It's a tough gig so I can sympathize with them, and I can understand if they didn't "see" the puck hit the net. I don't think there is a personal vendetta for refs or anybody else to intentionally get the Red Wings negatively. Yes, there still should be protective netting in spite of this blown call. I would think the exact same thing if the Red Wings scored a PP goal in the same situation. I'd be happy with the goal obviously but it still would be an extremely lucky break for the Wings. So I shouldn't be accused of homerism in this scenario. If it is a "rule" where situations like this are "unreviewable" this season, okay. It needs to be addressed though, because where it seems when you can have a toenail in the crease, or Holmstrom "interfering" with Giguere while he's not in the crease, that is reviewable, but this situation this evening isn't? I know Holmstrom is a marked man to an extent and I'm all for reviewing goals to make sure the calls are accurate, but it is total b.s. that this puck hitting the net isn't reviewable. And again, I would say the same thing if the Wings scored a PP goal in that situation, saying they were lucky to get away with one. If the referees didn't see the puck, fine. I can live with that. I may be playing armchair referee here, but when the puck goes way in the air, and it doesn't hit the glass/boards or anything, wouldn't you think or assume that is in the nettting/crowd or out of play? Puck on glass/boards yields to noise that we can hear more often than not. Puck on net leads to noise we cannot hear more often than not. Hopefully an issue like this is address, because it cost the Wings at least a point in the standings in all likelihood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 I didn't get to see the game live - just the replay. The only thing I can hope for is what goes around comes around. So if the Wings are getting screwed right now, hopefully come playoff time, they get some funky (or fu&*ed up) calls going their way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) If we had laser beams on the perimeter of the rink above the glass that shot the pucks as they crossed the line we would not be having this problem right now. But to be realistic, nothing has been going right for the Wings with calls and injuries. They should of noticed the puck being deflected into the net, hell even Hasek looked side-to-side 2-3 times before the puck came shooting back to the ice like a meteor hitting earth. Whatever happened to the Ref's blowing the whistle when they lose site of the puck: 1. If they seen the puck hit the mesh they would of called the play dead. 2. Since they did not see the puck hit the mesh they would had to lose sight of the puck therefore blowing the whistle and stopping the play. Edited March 1, 2008 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Textbook 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) To the person(s) saying the Wings didn't play through .. how about watching it again. From the time the puck hits the ice to the time it's in the net is less than a second. So take your "play it through" comments and shove it up your ass, San Jose wasn't playing it through either, the puck just happened to bounce right to a guy, right in front of the net. http://www.nhl.tv/team/launch.htm?hlg=2007...mp;event=DET350 Found a poor quality youtube. Edited March 1, 2008 by Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Whatever happened to the Ref's blowing the whistle when they lose site of the puck: 1. If they seen the puck hit the mesh they would have called the play dead. 2. Since they did not see the puck hit the mesh, they would had to have lost sight of the puck, therefore blowing the whistle and stopping the play. Absolutely! Answer: The whistle. Question: What is the only thing NHL refs didn't blow tonight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CapnSmitty 39 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) If you watch the replay, the reason it looks like they stop playing is because they dont know where the hell the puck went either, it just happened to drop right down to Setoguchi where he got a gift wrapped present. It has definitly been a BAD month for the Wings, Glad to see Feburary gone BTW, Hi, Long time Lurker, first time poster Edited March 1, 2008 by CapnSmitty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19forPresident! 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) Well, all I can say about it without getting as negative as I feel is that if the referees in this league were fined and suspended with the same scrutiny that players are, then someone would be getting a pay dock and some time off in the very near future. sidenote: Thank God Mickey's back, someone to tell it how it is, not that anybody besides Wings fans listen, but its nice to hear it said by someone besides my own screaming voice. Stay healthy Mick, welcome back! Edited March 1, 2008 by #19forPresident! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DyingAlive 27 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 I didn't see the play when it occured on tv, I didn't start tuning in until after the goal. But from what it looks like on the links posted above, it's blatant it hit the mesh. Someone needs to see that, I don't know how it wasn't whistled down. That's the difference between 0 points and possible 1 or 2 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drimo 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 This was utter bulls***. With this goal, and the Dan O'Hallaran "no goal" a few weeks ago against the Ducks, it is painfully clear that something needs to be done about the NHLs review policy. I believe incidents like this should be reviewable and the calls should be able to be rescinded. If they can take away Lidstrom's goal because Giggy makes initiates incidental contact with Holmstrom, then they should be able to take away mistakes like this. And WTF was the ref behind the line doing? Did he not put his whistle to his mouth, then remove it? Isn't it his JOB to watch the damn puck? If it goes upward, FOLLOW THE DAMN PUCK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Funny you should mention this, the last couple days I've been thinking, "I'm getting sick of Hockey, I can't wait until the Tigers get going". I never say stuff like that, usually it's, "I follow Baseball once the Red Wings Season is over." It's kind of sad. This losing streak isn't effecting me at all. Usually during Wings losing streaks, I'm sick to my stomic. This one, nothing. The Wings have been playing well the past game and a half. I mean, Drake, Maltby, they're all stepping it up. And still....nothing. And then this call? We can't even really complain because then ew're just sore losers and typical fans who find some excuse to blame a loss on. But this is really happening. These calls have been undeniable, and they have cost us games. It's ******* ridiculous. 10 losses out of the last 11 games? This is not the Red Wings. This is not the NHL. This is simply bizarre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
