GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 When you consider how much the Blue Jackets management stated, numerous times in fact, that they did not want to trade within the Central Division, it really makes perfect sense. They asked for one of the guys that they knew Detroit wouldn't give up, so they didn't have to worry about trading Fedorov within the Division. I don't see why they couldn't be reasonable, since Fedorov sucks anyways, but it is what it is. It doesn't surprise me that the Columbus management raised the price for any divisional opponent involved. I wish Columbus would realize that they're nowhere near competing with the Wings in the Central division. I think it's cute how they're trying to get leverage like they're a big deal or something, but in reality their team is a long way away from being a threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeeSpot82 10 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 (edited) No one in the NHL was about to do the Red Wings any favors - particularly other teams in the Central Division. I'm surprised the Kings (who are obviously out of the race) parted with Stuart for two picks. And I have to imagine that other teams could have snagged him for less if they were so inclined. It's not like The Red Wings didn't get Fedorov because they don't have a Theo Ruth-calibre prospect lying around. Edited March 2, 2008 by JeeSpot82 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 No one in the NHL was about to do the Red Wings any favors - particularly other teams in the Central Division. I'm surprised the Kings (who are obviously out of the race) parted with Stuart for two picks. And I have to imagine that other teams could have snagged him for less if they were so inclined. The Red Wings didn't get Fedorov because they don't have a Theo Ruth-calibre prospect lying around. You forgot about Grigorenko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Good no trade, why would you want to trade in your own division anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Good no trade, why would you want to trade in your own division anyways. To make the other team worse, like we did by giving Chicago Jason Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,149 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 ...all right allright, enough with puttings word in my mouth! J/K! I read the article and as much as I am a harsh critic of Holland (rightly so on some occasions) I am a worse critic of teams trying to rape Detroit because of the winning history. To ask for a NHL roster player AND a 1st round pick for Fedorov and then trade him for a mid-level prospect!?!?!?! Two things happened here. #1- Columbus tried to rape Holland and then 2, when Holland refused to part with what they wanted, they ask for FAR less from Washington to spite Holland and rub salt in the wound. No team wants to make Detroit any better, since they have been the NHL's ELITE since in early 90's, so if they are going to make them better, they are gonna try to rape them in return. This happens all the time, teams ask for the moon from Holland and then accept less from somewhere else. I am encouraged by the article and the fact that despite Babcocks reservations on Fedorov that Holland wanted him anyhow, this gives me something to look forward to July 1st. Maybe Holland WILL offer Fedorov a contract and then he will have the last laugh when Babcock puts Fedorov and Filpulla on the same line and they wipe Columbus' ass up and down the ice everytime they play next year!!! Revenge is sweet! ...I can see some of your reactions now, , that may be close. Surprised I am not saying exactly what you guys thought I would say. Hey, I have come around on the Euro's I guess I can give Holland a little credit where credit is due. Hey, trade day, draft day and July 1st are very stressful times for Wings fans, so I overreact alot when it comes down to certain things. I should have seen the rape Columbus was trying to put on Holland, I thought he didn't want Fedorov because Babcock didn't want him. I am enthused that he actually did, that is great news. That doesn't mean I am back on the Wings card, I am a little upset that they didn't address their secondary scoring, but at least now I know they tried to! ...this may sound surprising, but Good On Ya Holland! Although I wanted you to trade for Feds, that was a lot to ask for in return, glad you didn't do it! I just hope you offer him something come UFA day!!! PLEASE!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CdnWingsFanEh 2 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Best trade that was never made... I like Fedorov, but not for that price... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Best trade that was never made... Nah, I think that goes to Yzerman, Fedorov, and Lidstrom for Lindros. Not joking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Thank God. Fedorov is done. I'd rather a bag of pucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CdnWingsFanEh 2 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Nah, I think that goes to Yzerman, Fedorov, and Lidstrom for Lindros. Not joking. I meant this season, though yeah, agreed! Ugh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwingsfan18 1 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Nah, I think that goes to Yzerman, Fedorov, and Lidstrom for Lindros. Not joking. can you imagine...... I think my heart just stopped haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Where are all the Holland haters now? f*** that deal! still here, but I dislike Fedorov more so... :shrug: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Nah, I think that goes to Yzerman, Fedorov, and Lidstrom for Lindros. Not joking. I wish we had made that trade, we'd have a lot more tougness. Just kidding. I've never actually heard that one before, and don't honestly believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DenJ91 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 what a bunch of posers most of you are. before the deadline, it was more in favor of getting feds back, now that he didn't come to detroit everyone is like "oh thank god!" what a joke. he played two excellent games for washington so far, so whoever is dissing him for his skills needs to get over the whole "sergei left detroit, he stinks now" phase. move on, he didn't get traded to the wings, worry about the slump not where another player is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,149 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 ...my only question to ALL is, who would you rather have on the point during the powerplay? Sammy or Fedorov? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.T.Hun 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 ...my only question to ALL is, who would you rather have on the point during the powerplay? Sammy or Fedorov? Can I vote "neither"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 ...my only question to ALL is, who would you rather have on the point during the powerplay? Sammy or Fedorov? Sammy's brutal on the point. But that doesn't mean we should've way overpaid for Fedorov. Stuart should be out there instead of Sammy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 still here, but I dislike Fedorov more so... :shrug: haha, yep...im here too...i just didnt want Fedorov anyway so it worked out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwing_sparty 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 wow, why would columbus even offer that. there was no way in hell we would do that. for flip and a 1st rd pick we could have gotten half of the la kings! lol as i said earlier, i trust holland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Flip and and a pick? I really don't believe they asked for that. Thats just so unrealistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Flip and and a pick? I really don't believe they asked for that. Thats just so unrealistic. Some people can be greedy and ridiculous in a bid. I mean, why not ask for that much when you have no intention of dealing with the Wings any way. There is always that chance the other team will say, "Oh okay." Hell, given the hard ons raging around here for McCarty, some people might think Detroit would be interested in a Dynasty Period Playoff Hero who can actually score a goal, has money in the bank, no drinking addiction problem, no gambling addiction and is in NHL shape. Oh man, can I be nasty or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede40 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Flip and and a pick? I really don't believe they asked for that. Thats just so unrealistic. I can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Am I the only one who finds that deal a little odd? I don't believe that story for one second. There is no way that the Jackets wouldn't have traded Fedorov to the Wings if Kenny had offered up a significantly better deal than Washington did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Am I the only one who finds that deal a little odd? I don't believe that story for one second. There is no way that the Jackets wouldn't have traded Fedorov to the Wings if Kenny had offered up a significantly better deal than Washington did. Where does it say the Jackets wouldn't have traded Fedorov to Detroit? The Jackets did want a significantly better deal from Detroit, which would've been too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Where does it say the Jackets wouldn't have traded Fedorov to Detroit? The Jackets did want a significantly better deal from Detroit, which would've been too much. I guess we disagree on the term 'significantly'. To me, a significatly better deal would have been something like Meech and a 2nd round pick. Hell, Meech alone would have been a much better deal. Seriously, Roth was something like the 5th rated d prospect in Washington's system. It isn't like Fedorov is a gamebreaker any longer. He is old, he would have fit nicely into the Wings lineup. But it isn't like the Jackets would have stamped the Wings ticket to the Finals by dealing Fedorov to them. Sending Flip, and a 1st to the Jackets for Fedorov is beyond a significantly better deal. It would have been insanely better. Realistically, I think it boiled down to two things. 1. Fedorov and the Wings management still have some bad blood. Whether or not it is just on the Wings management side or not is irrelevant. 2. The Wings didn't want Fedorov that badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
