Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 In all objective fairness drawing exact parallels between Simon's 30 game suspension and what Pronger deserves with this is a tad silly. First off Simon's 30 games was a bit severe and was mostly imposed due to the memory of the Hellwig incident. Secondly Simon tripped-up and stomped on Ruutu with very little intent aside from Jarrko being a known agitator, while Pronger's feet were somewhat tied up with Kesler's. However, an aggravating factor against Pronger could be that he stomped rather than merely stepped on the calf as Simon did, though this factor could further be mitigated considering Pronger's skate blade made contact with a more protected, less vulnerable spot. With all of this noted I think calling for a 30 game suspension on Pronger's behalf is far too dramatic, but saying something more reminiscent of 10 to 20 seems more reasonable. Of course how Colin Campbell can rationally justify no punishment at all is a mystery to me, it's INexcusable and an absolute embarrassment to the league. fixed it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 (edited) What a bum.... Really.... He should be suspended..... if he does get suspended (which i think he is) i dont see it being for a long time.. MAYBE 3 games at max EDIT: Darren Dreger from tsn said its unlikely Pronger's suspension will rival Simon's, however a speculated guess based on several conversations targets 10 games, which would cover Anaheim's nine remaining regular season games, plus one playoff game. Just what he thinks O.o LINK Edited March 14, 2008 by Duck Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevie for president 42 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 I'm sure no one will agree with me but in my opinion what Pronger did, from what ive heard, i havent actually seen it unfortunately (keep that in mind!), is worse that "the bertuzzi incident" and ill tell you why. 1.) Bertuzzi did this to retaliate a hit against his best player. 2.) Bertuzzi used his hands 3.) Bertuzzi isnt a repeat offender, at least i dont think he is but i did absolutely no research at all. Pronger did this because hes a *****, he used a sharp skate, and he takes cheap shots almost weekly. Im sure bertuzzi didnt want to do serious damage to steve moore. i dont know, im not him and i wasnt there, but i cant imagine a "power forward" and a relatively tough hockey player would resort to a blind shot that was meant to end a career. Pronger used a weapon to intentionally injure a player. and we all know how damaging a skate blade is (zednik, malarchik). Now having said all that i firmly believe that both pronger and bertuzzi need to get their asses kicked by mccarty. that would really make my day. and 1 more thing before i go, this is 1 more reason why i hate the ducks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 fixed it How the hell did I miss those two little letters? I really need to revise my lengthy posts. Though I do wish to add, everyone I've shown those two videos (Simon's step and Pronger's stomp) to whom had no real sporting knowledge of either incident (only a few people so far), has given their nod to Pronger's for being worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 This ten game stuff is bull. It reminds me of Pronger getting one game last year during our serries when he deserved more. The team rallied to compensate and played even better then if he were in. I personally think if you don't take him away for at least one PO serries he is just going to keep being an evil bastard. I agree totally with Simon. They both are the same kind of player, dirty with a long history of being jerks on the ice. The only difference is one is a superstar that is extremely important to a top tier team that has an overly influential GM that whines extenstively. The NHL will pat themselves on the back for 10 game suspension, how brave of you to cave into accusations of having double standards, by giving a suspension that will not hurt the ducks or Pronger at all and confirming a double standard. I am willing to conceed that it wasn't premediatated, and that should shave off like 5-10 games off of the 30 Simon got. He still took a sharpened blade and violently thrusted it towards a human being. He should get 30 games, which is better then what he would get on the street. He should be in jail for intent to injury with deadly object, not in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 I'm sure no one will agree with me but in my opinion what Pronger did, from what ive heard, i havent actually seen it unfortunately (keep that in mind!), is worse that "the bertuzzi incident" and ill tell you why. 1.) Bertuzzi did this to retaliate a hit against his best player. 2.) Bertuzzi used his hands 3.) Bertuzzi isnt a repeat offender, at least i dont think he is but i did absolutely no research at all. Bertuzzi did think about this attack before hand. I still think though you are right, this attack was with something that we just saw nearly killed Zednik. It is very sharp and could have ended his career if it cut certain parts of his leg. Bertuzzi got suspended because of the damage done by his acts. Pronger will get a slap on the wrist because of the lack of damage. Which is a horrible policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shannyfan1414 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 He should get at least 15 games. Really i think that he should be getting 30 but we all know that butman will not allow for such a thing. The only reason he continues to be a goon is because he has never been punished with enough games. He will continue his goonery until they sit him a lengthy amount of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I have an idea, does anyone have the NHL contact numbers? I remember calling marketing directers and such complaining about the OLN contract. We should all call and demand equal punishment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero 20 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) http://broadband.tsn.ca/?vid=38278 Pronger is getting a suspension. How long, is still in question. Edit: I see Duck Guy posted something similar a little earlier... Edited March 15, 2008 by Nero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I'm sure no one will agree with me but in my opinion what Pronger did, from what ive heard, i havent actually seen it unfortunately (keep that in mind!), is worse that "the bertuzzi incident" and ill tell you why. 1.) Bertuzzi did this to retaliate a hit against his best player. 2.) Bertuzzi used his hands 3.) Bertuzzi isnt a repeat offender, at least i dont think he is but i did absolutely no research at all. The difference is Bertuzzi's actions ended a guys career, whereas Kessler wasn't even injured. Consequences of the actions matter! That said, 10 games sounds about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) The difference is Bertuzzi's actions ended a guys career, whereas Kessler wasn't even injured. Consequences of the actions matter! That said, 10 games sounds about right. Thats really dumb to say. Bertuzzi did end the career of Moore. Pronger could have easly done the same with Kessler. The only difference is Kessler had some protection on. So because of that you would absolve Pronger? So If I fire a gun at a cop, can I get off by saying well it hit his bulletproof vest and he didn't die? Hell no, I would be going to jail for attempted murder. Pronger should be getting hit with the same suspesnsion because reguardless of intent or outcome, he attacked him with an extremely dangerous weapon. If he cut his Achelles tendon, Kessler would never play again. Edited March 15, 2008 by Majsheppard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero 20 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 The difference is Bertuzzi's actions ended a guys career, whereas Kessler wasn't even injured. Consequences of the actions matter! That said, 10 games sounds about right. Jarkko Ruutu wasn't injured either. Chris Simon still got 30 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I have an idea, does anyone have the NHL contact numbers? I remember calling marketing directers and such complaining about the OLN contract. We should all call and demand equal punishment. National Hockey League 1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Fl. New York, NY 10020 NY Tel. 212-789-2000 Fax 212-789-2020 Contact information for the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 The original video I saw didn't show anything. However this new video clearly shows Pronger stomping on the calf area of Kessler. However, the feet of Pronger are tangled up in Kesslers skates, as Kesser is trying to trip Pronger. What Pronger did was provocted, that is where it differs from what Simon did. It doesn't make the deed any less harmful, or suspendable. But I do think it will greatly reduce the time Pronger gets. 10 games is expected, I say he gets no more than 13. 30 would be too much, as he doesn't have anything near the recent history that Simon did when he stomped his way back into Campbell's office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I'm so happy that are looking at it again. He needs to sit out 30 games. Teach that piece of s*** a lesson because he ALWAYS gets away with things and gets unpunished. Maybe a 30 game suspension will make him realize something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 As much as I hate Pronger, I really don't think he will get 30 games. I would suspend him remainder of the season + 1st round of playoff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I'm so happy that are looking at it again. He needs to sit out 30 games. Teach that piece of s*** a lesson because he ALWAYS gets away with things and gets unpunished. Maybe a 30 game suspension will make him realize something. I agree with you 100%.. That being said, we know he's not going to which is pure garbage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I wonder what idiotic rant Briank Burke will go on if a suspension is handed down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 As much as I hate Pronger, I really don't think he will get 30 games. I would suspend him remainder of the season + 1st round of playoff I think the most he'll get is the rest of the season and one playoff game, max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 Well now that it seems official that they're actually going to take a look at it and impose a penalty I say he ends up only getting 5 games, I personally say he should sit for 15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 I think the most he'll get is the rest of the season and one playoff game, max. I agree, and so does Darren Dreger for what thats worth. Not sure if this has been posted and I am not willing to scroll through 14 pages so just ignore if you've seen it. Dreger's Take on the Pronger Incident Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marck13 3 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 byebye pronger.. this HAS TO be more than 10 lousy games!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) 30 games through playoffs. He's a repeat offender. Suspended TWICE in last years playoffs. That's not hockey, that's cheating. Here's the Simon interview if it isn't on here already. LINK Edited March 15, 2008 by jim3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) And the best part is, they're all blaming the "biased Canadian media" for the suspension talk. It's true- there's no one the Canadians persecute more than Canadian hockey players. Edited March 15, 2008 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomekian 201 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 10-15 games max - chris simon had no mitigation whereas pronger can with some justifcation that he was trying to free himself and was just careless. the 10 sounds pretty likely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites