Is Sidney Crosby a diver?

[Real1 2]

Simple as the poll. Please vote and then explain.

[Vincanni 1]

I believe he has dived before, likely in an attempt to take advantage of his "blessed" status, but very sparingly and he does not make it a part of his game. Therefore I don't consider him a diver, though I feel he may be teetering on the edge of being truly classified as such.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

diver and a whiney *****

[seeinred 1,488]

He's a diver in the same sense that a lot hockey players are. Sure, he's tried to sell a few calls, but most players have too. I really think it's more a product of the way the NHL and hockey media glorify him though, in that he realizes he might get some calls that another player wouldn't.

[MajorWingNut 0]

diver and a whiney *****

:beerbuddy: Couldn't have said it better myself !

[tony 3]

honestly who said no because he was diving way before the QMJHL

Edited May 5, 2008 by tony

[Reilly 24]

As much as every player in the NHL. The reason he gets caught doing it more is because he's constantly hounded.

[Echolalia 2,961]

no hes pefect you take that back or sid the kid will hear and win the stanley cup by himself just to prove you wrong

[Cern 0]

Yep. I remember seeing one clip where he gets love-tapped in the back with a stick and he goes down like he was hit by a car. It's ******* absurd.

[Reds4Life 51]

diver and a whiney *****

I agree.

[DaKineMaui 8]

No more than any of 'em.

Dino was the best though.

[up2here 41]

The Sidney Crosby jealousy is as rampant here as it is across the league.

Edited May 5, 2008 by UP2HERE

[toby91_ca 620]

Yep. I remember seeing one clip where he gets love-tapped in the back with a stick and he goes down like he was hit by a car. It's ******* absurd.

Would you like to share the clip?

I wonder if a better question would be "Do you think Crosby is a diver and if yes, is your answer based on watching him play, or reading garbage spewed by others?"

I think the bad rap Crosby has received from some has almost soley been the responsibility of a couple opposing teams. In his rookie year. Hitchcock and the Flyers branded him a diver and a whiner and this has been sticking almost ever since with some, but most have been able to ignore the BS. Crosby certainly complained a bit in the early days, especially against Philly, but he was getting the routine cross-check in the face and losing teeth against Hatcher.

Now more recently, mostly started by NY media, the Rangers tried to place a seed in the heads of the refs and the NHL that Crosby dives and gets the benefit of calls. Again, this is total BS, the Rangers were simply playing games, trying to get an edge in the series. Ultimately, I think these games had little to no impact.

[up2here 41]

Would you like to share the clip?

I wonder if a better question would be "Do you think Crosby is a diver and if yes, is your answer based on watching him play, or reading garbage spewed by others?"

I think the bad rap Crosby has received from some has almost soley been the responsibility of a couple opposing teams. In his rookie year. Hitchcock and the Flyers branded him a diver and a whiner and this has been sticking almost ever since with some, but most have been able to ignore the BS. Crosby certainly complained a bit in the early days, especially against Philly, but he was getting the routine cross-check in the face and losing teeth against Hatcher.

Now more recently, mostly started by NY media, the Rangers tried to place a seed in the heads of the refs and the NHL that Crosby dives and gets the benefit of calls. Again, this is total BS, the Rangers were simply playing games, trying to get an edge in the series. Ultimately, I think these games had little to no impact.

Agreed,people said the same things about Gretzky and Lemieux. When a phenom comes along people want to bring them down.

[SnipeShow 0]

The Sidney Crosby jealousy is as rampant here as it is across the league.

I was about to say...

I'm from Toronto and I'd like to consider myself a knowledgable hockey fan, with the wings being my favourite team. During the regular season I watch as many hockey games a night as possible, so I see a lot of games. I watch my share of penguins games and Crosby does not dive anymore than any average NHLer does, and he certainly doesn't do it to the extent where he can be labelled as a "diver". Of course the media blows it up and discusses it to death here in Toronto, so my meathead leaf-fan friends hear all this stuff about him diving and would bet on their mother's lives he is the biggest whiner/diver in the league. Everytime they bring it up i ask them when was the last time you watch a penguins game? they don't even watch hockey, they watch whatever it is the leafs are doing...

[Real1 2]

I have watched some more videos of him, and I have to say myself that lately he HAS become more of a diver. Someone will touch his hands ever so lightly and then, out come the feet. This is only me though....

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Edited May 5, 2008 by Real1

[toby91_ca 620]

I have watched some more videos of him, and I have to say myself that lately he HAS become more of a diver. Someone will touch his hands ever so lightly and then, out come the feet. This is only me though....

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Where are the videos?

I'm not saying he has never taken a dive, every player has, but to call him a diver is way off.

[sergei_is_still_a_wing 1]

embellisher? absolutely. diver? nah.

THIS is a dive.

i remember watching this live. they show a better angle (possibly from behind floppa) and the nucks players stick never even touches him. I MEAN AT ALL. it came inches from his leg but no closer. you must have some sort of peripheral vision to pick that up and then have the juevos to go for the slide. unreal.

unless its blatently a dive, embellishing is a good strategic move for your team to go a man up. do i like it? no. do i think it belongs in hockey? no. but it is what it is. if dats takes a dive and on the insuing PP we score the cup clincher i'd love it. its one of the many things that you love when they go your way and hate when it goes against you.

and please, don't anyone say if we score on a PP caused by a red wing player diving/embellishing you would hate it. because you are a liar.

edit: still dont know how to embed youtube vids! i suck...

Edited May 5, 2008 by sergei_is_still_a_wing

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Simple as the poll. Please vote and then explain.

I voted that I don't care.

He has the puck all the time, the camera is on him all the time and therefore everything he does is exaggerated. Why wasn't anybody up in arms about Ben Guite diving on Henrik Zetterberg in game 3 I believe it was? Guite, like Floppa, like many NHLers dive.

Sidney Crosby will try to sell calls. The fact that we pick on him about it is so missing the bigger issue. Diving is an epidemic in our sport. The players do it because they never get called for it.

I don't pick on Crosby for diving even though I don't like it because all I have to do is watch any hockey game, including Wings games to see somebody dive every single game.

I don't see the point in singling anybody out since almost every does it, has done it and/or will do it.

It's a goddamn embarrassment to the game and I hold all NHL players responsible for doing it, the refs for not calling it and the league for not making an issue out of it. Shame on everybody.

[drwscc 212]

Would it be Don Cherry-ish to suggest that all the diving was brought in by the Euros? Anyone watch any football/soccer, maybe the World Cup? Those guys are trained from little kids to just crumple into a ball at the slightest brush of an opposing player, and writhe on the ground holding their knee if someone's foot comes close to theirs. Heck, I remember this video of some goalie coming out ala Hasek to stop someone on a break. He slides in, and the opposing player jumps completely over him, missing him by like a foot. But the goalie acts like he just took a line drive off his forehead, and flops around on the ground. Pathetic, yet eerily similar to today's NHL.

[edicius 3,269]

Where are the videos?

I'm not saying he has never taken a dive, every player has, but to call him a diver is way off.

0:40 and (especially) 1:46 are excellent examples. The latter is the one where he looks like he got hit by a car.

[toby91_ca 620]

0:40 and (especially) 1:46 are excellent examples. The latter is the one where he looks like he got hit by a car.

Most of these incidents are quite old, but I'll comment anyway.

In the video, there are two separate spearing incidents. Crosby definately dives, or embellishes both of them, but to be honest, I have never seen a player get speared and not react the same way. I'm not sure why this is. Spearing is a big deal, but to me, it doesn't necessarily inflict anymore damage than a good slash. I suppose a spear is "capable" of inflicting a lot of damage, but most spears do not and they are result in the player falling to the ice like a criple.

[motorcitykid 42]

I like Crosby. I could say he's a diver, but I think he's even more a whiner. Alot of that goes with his age. He's still young, and he gets rattled sometimes, then he looks at the refs for a call, even while the play is still on. Personally, I think he should stay focused more on playing. Again, he's still a young guy.

[Turkey 0]

No more than any of 'em.

Dino was the best though.

QFT

They all dive to some degree. I don't consider someone a "diver" unless they are utterly flagrant about it all the time. Sid takes his lumps for the most part so I don't think of him as a diver.

[TrueBlueblood 0]

diver and a whiney *****

What irishtemper said!

Edited May 5, 2008 by TrueBlueblood