DYags 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 I we are bringing Mac out of the lineup because he isn't playing well...why is Downey's name even in the discussion? Mac isn't playing well because of his lack of speed and defensive responsibility...Downey is no better in either area. Downey would play just as little and look just as bad. Swap Mac fo Abdelkader or Hartigan and get someone who can actually play hockey in the lineup. Hudler-Helm-Abdelkader sounds like one hell of a fourth line. Lets hope it happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 I'm saying nobody will because it's not something that'll happen because of what's at stake right now. I love Downey and D-Mac for what they bring to the team, I just think Abdelkader could be a little more useful at this point. Yeah, no kidding. People need to realize that fighting doesn't win you games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 Yeah, no kidding. People need to realize that fighting doesn't win you games. Equally some people need to realise the importance of having an enforcer in the line up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotvm 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 Hudler-Helm-Abdelkader sounds like one hell of a fourth line. Lets hope it happens. QFT the desire and adrenaline level of that line would be through the roof if you add Abdelkader. as for the whole Dmac/Downey thing..... its a push. take away the names and history and youre just talking about a couple of non-impact players that dont bring much to the table for this series. i must say though, ill be really upset if Hartigan suits up. he takes WAY to many untimely penalties, something that obviously hurt us yesterday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 Abdelkader in for Dmac would be a great lift for the team. Thats a line that can be a game breaker for us. Also, I'd like to see Lilja in for Chelios tomorrow night. Chelios has been bad this series, especially in game 5. Perhaps sitting him for a game or two would smarten him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 Meech, or have the current lineup show some heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 I we are bringing Mac out of the lineup because he isn't playing well...why is Downey's name even in the discussion? Mac isn't playing well because of his lack of speed and defensive responsibility...Downey is no better in either area. Downey would play just as little and look just as bad. Swap Mac fo Abdelkader or Hartigan and get someone who can actually play hockey in the lineup. Hartigan would be my pick... suprised only one guy has mentioned this. Not interested in seeing Downey this playoff year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted May 18, 2008 lol downey is by far the worst skater in the nhl...but hes so funny to watch, god i love him. I wouldnt mind seeing him in for dmac for one game, but that would completely take away all the offensive production the 4th line produced thus far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Downey could bring that energy back that seems to be missing. Which he did more of then fight this past season. Plus one of his few points came against Dallas. My concern though would be if he's game ready after sitting for 2 rounds and some change. Side: Abdelkader? If the Wings need a rookie who has 2 NHL games under his belt to beat Dallas then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Who was it who said earlier Downey is a defensive liability? In 56 games in the regular season he had a even +/- ... so hes a defensive reliability why? And people seem to forget the energy that Downey creates. Dmac seems to have lost the ability or will to hit, and we all know Downey goes aggressive on the forecheck. Drake created a huge buzz with the hits hes made, why not let Downey create some more? I dont see it as such a huge risk to put Downey in over Mac. People are saying Aaron will be useless, at least give him a chance! Useless is how I'd define half the roster right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blaayze 25 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 oh, comon guys. what we really need is.. Sammy-Sammy-Sammy Sammy-Sammy-Sammy Sammy-Sammy-Sammy Dallas wouldn't have any shins left and we would win by default ;D! In all honesty, Abdelkader (sp) would be a great person to put in place of either of these two. Still.. Mac>Downey. They are the exact same player, just mac has more hockey sense and Im almost positive thats what Babs is going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sherwood5030 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 I'd rather see Abdelkader in for Mac. I don't see why people are so concerned about putting Abdelkader in the line up, especially when their argument is hes a rookie. Hello, its Helm's first post season and look how good he is playing. yeah he played more than two games in the regular season but from the two games Abdelkader did play in, he looked solid. He's a good skater, plays physical and will bring extra energy to the lineup. Him and Helm together would be great IMO. By the way for all you who make the argument that Abdelkader only played two games. Helm only played in 7 games of the regular season far from a lot of experience. And as for Hartigan in the lineup i don't like that one bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiei 192 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 or giving recovering coke addicts roster spots. Chelios will have to give up #24 then. Because I would WALK ALL 1000 MILES FROM HERE TO DETROIT TO SEE HIM SUITED UP AGAIN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Chelios at least needs a game rest because he is looking OLD, I would hope they would put Lilja maybe even Erikson; Babcock loves this kid so I could see it, plus brings a hell of a shot. Then sit Lebda's useless ass I used to like him but he has been exposed, and put in Meech for him. Also would like Mac to at least sit a game put in Ablekader he looked great in the few games he played and Hartigan just never impressed me. I like Downey but really he wouldn't help us, you ask for big hits but for some reason Downey never manages to lay them he ends up hitting the boards or tripping, and the way Ott is playing he wouldn't be willing to fight anyway. Of course its highly unlikely that they would make all these changes but those lines I think would bring mad energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) why not replace D-mac with a big-mac... then we can lure Mr. (Clutch) Lang back to town to get us out of this mess! Edited May 19, 2008 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Oh wait, you're being serious. How the heck is Downey's 3 minutes a game going to achieve anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbyrocks18 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Oh wait, you're being serious. How the heck is Downey's 3 minutes a game going to achieve anything? how has mccartys??? The point im trying to make is that if were going to have an enforcer that plays 3 minutes a game on the 4th line why not have one that will actually fulfill the role?? And everyone is saying he would only hurt the team but he even has points this season against dallas, he has an even plus minus, and he brings energy to the team with his hitting, not to mention he actually sticks up for his teammates which i haven't seen almost at all from the whole wings roster, MCCARTY included. the wings are playing like a bullied team that just are not in to it right now, and as a hockey player my self nothing gets you and your team pumped up more than to see some dick like ott get his ass handed to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajorWingNut 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 :idea: Just a thought, some will call a brain fart, Malts and Cheli down....Abdelkader and Ericsson up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 I am all for Ablecakeeater to play... i mean seriously if he can't look better than our "stars" did last game... they should cut their losses with him now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Once playoffs started and they had d mac in the line up i was thrilled. i couldn't wait to see mccarty on the ice with the team, protecting our skill players, standing up for the team. Well its about game 6 in the western conference finals now... I'm still waiting. Now i know mccarty as we all know ain't what he used to be, but come on... he cant even skate out there. I dont care how much drugs a guy does but how does a professional hockey player for get how to skate.. which leads me to thinking, what drug is babcock on to keep playing him???? now i love d mac, i always will for what he's done in the past but i think hes proven to us all he's not gonna cut it. So many cheapshots, so many oppurtunities for mccarty to stand up for the rest of team, and he has gotten in to ONE fight. And it was at a time i don't even think was very necessary. if downey was playing im SURE ott would have a fat lip or black eye by now. All season downey stuck up for The wings, he even made a new turtle on the avalanche. Why is he riding the pine for a player just signed on the team for enforcing purpose who can't even fulfill the role close to how downey has all season?? Just give downey a game, for cripes sake. i just think it is ridiculous, and i just wanted to know how others think about this. thoughts? Thought? How about putting Downey in is a terrible idea. And this is coming from a guy who championed the Wings bringing him in to camp from day 1 when people poo-pooed the mere thought of him in the Winged Wheel. Here's the problem. We need to generate offense. We need to get back to skating hard and maintaining the lion's share of puck possession. Downey is our worst skater and has the worst hands on the team. Need I say more? Forget about Ott. Retribution is for the regular season, not for when a trip the Cup finals is on the line. And frankly, nothing perpetrated by the stars in this series has been so dastardly that I would even want any of the Wings looking for retribution. Sure, a nice right hand to the mouth of Ott or whomever would make me feel pretty good, but winning game 6 would make me feel a hell of alot better. We're handling ourselves just fine. And for the record (now I didn't see this incident) but I was on the Stars board and they are livid, saying Draper should get a suspension for cross checking Ott in the face. Did that actually happen? The Stars say it happened and they are all begging for retribution, etc... My point is nothing Ott has done this series has been worthy of getting worked up about. It's playoff hockey and it ain't always nice. Worry about winning the game, not about Steve Ott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 :idea: Just a thought, some will call a brain fart, Malts and Cheli down....Abdelkader and Ericsson up. not bad. except id leave malts in. but ericsson for cheli could work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5_Hole 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 He brings nothing positive to the Wings. He is lazy, slow, out of shape, takes stupid penalties, and has no leadership ability, and the only reason we have him up, is to intimidate, and he can’t even do that. This has, and will burn us if he continues to play, we need to substitute Hartigan, ABs, or Downey for him, or even play Ericsson. MCCARTY SUCKS!!! I cannot stand that bankrupt crack addict DRUNK!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Downey is not the answer, please wake up. However, any more of those stupid dumb ass penalties by Mac and his ass should be sitting. Unbelievable. Who the hell does he think he is to come crawling back and make bonehead plays like that in such a big game? Meanwhile Chelios is playing pretty stupidly as well. These two need a wake up call and I think the coach is handing them out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hallelujahlogic 1 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 He brings nothing positive to the Wings. He is lazy, slow, out of shape, takes stupid penalties, and has no leadership ability, and the only reason we have him up, is to intimidate, and he can't even do that. This has, and will burn us if he continues to play, we need to substitute Hartigan, ABs, or Downey for him, or even play Ericsson. MCCARTY SUCKS!!! I cannot stand that bankrupt crack addict DRUNK!!! dude! i didn't know mac's ex wife posted here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 I honestly can't believe Mac even got another shift after his second dumb penalty. Put in Ab's or Harty for a game to give Mac a wake up call........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
